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The Ice Climbers did not return as playable characters in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', but were playable during the development of {{forwiiu}}.<ref name=IciesCut>[https://sourcegaming.info/2015/07/09/i-answer-some-questions-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-461-464/ "I Answer Some Questions" Sakurai Famitsu column vol. 461-464, on Ice Climbers, clones, and Smash Run]</ref> According to [[Masahiro Sakurai]], their removal was the result of requiring "significant processing power" to control in {{for3ds}}, adding that the 3DS was already being pushed to its limits and that he "couldn’t get them to work no matter how hard [he] tried."<ref name=IciesCut/> Possible solutions were attempted, such as removing joints from their model, as well as certain effects such as gravity, | The Ice Climbers did not return as playable characters in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', but were playable during the development of {{forwiiu}}.<ref name=IciesCut>[https://sourcegaming.info/2015/07/09/i-answer-some-questions-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-461-464/ "I Answer Some Questions" Sakurai Famitsu column vol. 461-464, on Ice Climbers, clones, and Smash Run]</ref> According to [[Masahiro Sakurai]], their removal was the result of requiring "significant processing power" to control in {{for3ds}}, adding that the 3DS was already being pushed to its limits and that he "couldn’t get them to work no matter how hard [he] tried."<ref name=IciesCut/> Possible suggestions and solutions were attempted, such as removing joints from their model, as well as certain effects such as gravity. However, these suggestions and solutions did not yield results.<ref name=IciesCut/> | ||
Aside from functionality, Sakurai stated that the Ice Climbers were lower priority inclusions, due to them being an example of characters whose home series had little to no possibility of having a new installment. While they could have been Wii U-exclusive characters, Sakurai wanted the rosters to be identical for both games.<ref name=IciesCut/> These issues ultimately resulted in the Ice Climbers being cut as playable characters and instead relegated to being a [[trophy]].<ref name=IciesCut/> | Aside from functionality, Sakurai stated that the Ice Climbers were lower priority inclusions, due to them being an example of characters whose home series had little to no possibility of having a new installment. While they could have been Wii U-exclusive characters, Sakurai wanted the rosters to be identical for both games.<ref name=IciesCut/> These issues ultimately resulted in the Ice Climbers being cut as playable characters and instead relegated to being a [[trophy]].<ref name=IciesCut/> | ||
Revision as of 17:05, September 17, 2024
- For fighter info, see Ice Climbers (SSBM), Ice Climbers (SSBB), and Ice Climbers (SSBU).
- "IC" redirects here. For the smasher, see Smasher:IC.
| Ice Climbers | |
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The in-game sprites of Popo (left) and Nana (right) from Ice Climber. | |
| Universe | Ice Climber |
| Debut | Vs. Ice Climber (1984) |
| Smash Bros. appearances | Melee Brawl SSB4 Ultimate |
| Most recent non-Smash appearance | Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition (2024) |
| Console/platform of origin | Arcade |
| Species | Human |
| Gender | Male (Popo) Female (Nana) |
| Place of origin | Infinite Glacier |
| Designed by | Tadashi Sugiyama |
| Voice actor | Sanae Kobayashi |
The Ice Climbers (アイスクライマー, Ice Climber) are the titular protagonists of the game Ice Climber. Individually, they are known as Popo (ポポ, Popo) and Nana (ナナ, Nana), and are differentiated from each other primarily by the color of their parkas. Fittingly, the Ice Climbers seek to scale various mountains, yet must also avoid various obstacles and enemies en route to each summit. In order to successfully accomplish each level, they must catch a vegetable-stealing condor.
The Ice Climbers made their Super Smash Bros. series debut in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Although they returned in that role in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, they made a cameo as a trophy in Super Smash Bros. 4 before returning to a playable role in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Origin
Ice Climber was one of the first NES games that allowed for two people to play simultaneously. Its playable characters are a pair of mountaineers wearing color-coded parkas: a male in blue named Popo, and a female in pink named Nana.[1] Although hardware limitations originally limited them to simple 8-bit sprites, official artwork depicts them with chibi proportions.[2][3]
The Ice Climbers both wield wooden mallets, which they use to break ice layers in order to further ascend each mountain and to protect themselves by striking icicles or enemies like Topis and Polar Bears.[1] On the route to the mountaintop, they can gain bonus points by collecting vegetables that are stolen by a condor at the beginning of each level.[1] Ultimately, the Ice Climbers must catch the condor in order to proceed to the next mountain.[1]
Relationship between the Ice Climbers
Although Ice Climber did not give precise details about Popo and Nana, their subsequent appearances in the Super Smash Bros. series have somewhat elaborated on their relationship. Initially, two specific instances in Super Smash Bros. Melee hinted at them being in a romantic relationship. Firstly, the opening movie features Popo and Nana high-fiving each other, with a small heart emerging from where their hands meet. Secondly, the Japanese title of Event 21: Ice Breaker roughly translates to "Those Who Interfere People's Romance".
However, a subsequent translation of the Ice Climbers' Smabura-Ken page revealed that Super Smash Bros. series creator Masahiro Sakurai confirmed that their relationship is platonic by saying, "By the way, Popo and Nana are a childhood friends-like boy-and-girl pair. The "more than friends, but less than lovers" kind."[4] Much like Sakurai's explanation, the Ice Climbers' Classic Mode trophy in Melee forgoes any romantic undertones, and instead simply mentions that "they're rarely seen apart."
Despite Sakurai's aforementioned explanation, issue 152 of Nintendo Power seemingly lost his comment in translation and instead referred to Popo and Nana as siblings.[1] Following this, Super Smash Bros. Brawl reaffirmed Sakurai's stance on the relationship both in-game and in supplemental material. The Ice Climbers' Smash Bros. DOJO!! page refers to them as friends in two instances while detailing their special moves.[5] In addition, Solid Snake's codec conversation regarding the Ice Climbers sees Mei Ling mention that Popo and Nana have a "blood bond", which is a long-standing custom practiced around the world that involves two unrelated people swearing loyalty to one another.
In Super Smash Bros.
Although the Ice Climbers do not make any sort of appearance in Super Smash Bros., the game's Japanese website included them in a poll to gauge interest in potential playable characters for a sequel.[6]
In Super Smash Bros. Melee
As playable characters
The Ice Climbers make their Super Smash Bros. series debut in Super Smash Bros. Melee as newcomers. They share a single spot on the roster despite consisting of two characters and would be the first characters in the series to establish this format. Due to appearing in 3D for the first time, the Ice Climbers' designs were modified accordingly: they retained their chibi aesthetic from Ice Climber's official artwork, yet also gained distinct hairstyles in order to further differentiate them, alongside gloves, ice cleats, and more detailed parkas.
According to Masahiro Sakurai, the creator of the Super Smash Bros. series, he and the development team wished to include a character that originated on the Nintendo Entertainment System. However, Sakurai also stressed the importance of character selection additionally involving "things only that character can do".[4][7] In addition to the Ice Climbers, other candidates included the Balloon Fighter from Balloon Fight, the main character from Urban Champion, Bubbles from Clu Clu Land, and a biker from Excitebike.[4][8]
Ultimately, the Ice Climbers were selected; Sakurai explained that the other candidates failed in certain aspects in regard to feasibly becoming playable characters, whereas the Ice Climbers were selected because he and the development team were interested in using Ice Climber's simultaneous 2-player gameplay as the basis for the climbers' tag team playstyle.[4]
Like in Ice Climber, Popo is the leading climber by default; however, the Ice Climbers' third and fourth alternate costumes will instead make Nana the leading climber. While the Ice Climbers boast the seventh highest jump, they are burdened with slow air and falling speeds as a reference to Ice Climber.[4] Although they possess the second lowest traction, this also grants them the second longest ranged wavedash that, when coupled with the disjointed ranges of their mallets, grants the Ice Climbers a formidable approach.
Unlike the rest of the cast, the Ice Climbers feature the player controlling the leading climber, while the partner climber is controlled via artificial intelligence. Although the partner climber does not share the leader's damage meter, their CPU level scales with the amount of damage the leader has received.[9] These mechanics result in the Ice Climbers possessing an extremely high learning curve, as players must ensure the safety and proper utilization of not one, but two characters at the same time.
Although the Ice Climbers are technically demanding and require astute micromanaging, their tag team mechanics also grant them an exclusive advanced technique known as desyncing. Thanks to the vast utility provided by desyncing, as well as the considerable offensive potential provided by wobbling (another exclusive advanced technique that is derived from desyncing), the Ice Climbers are currently ranked 8th out of 26 on the tier list. This places them in the B+ tier and posits them as high-tier characters.
Trophies
Like other playable characters, the Ice Climbers have three trophies - a normal trophy won by beating the Classic Mode with the Ice Climbers on any difficulty, and "Smash Red" and "Smash Blue" trophies are acquired by beating the Adventure and All-Star modes, respectively.
- Ice Climbers
- That's Popo in the blue and Nana in the pink. These two stars of the game Ice Climber have scaled many an icy summit in their mountaineering careers. Back in their glory days, they chased eggplants, cucumbers, and other vegetables that inexplicably fell from frosty summits where a condor reigned supreme. They're rarely seen apart.
- Ice Climber (10/85)
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- Ice Climbers [Smash]
- This unique twosome fights together as a team. Your score will not be affected if the CPU-controlled character is KO'd, but a lone Ice Climber won't be able to use teamwork moves, which will make for a tough and frantic solo fight. The Ice Shot fires mini-glaciers out of their hammers, while Squall Hammer is at its strongest when Nana and Popo combine their strength.
- B: Ice Shot
- Smash B: Squall Hammer
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- Ice Climbers [Smash]
The colors of the Ice Climbers' parkas denotes who's in the lead: Nana's in pink or orange, while Popo's in green or blue. Their hairstyles are also slightly different. Belay allows them to cover great distances, but doesn't give foes the chance to target their landing. Blizzard is best used in close quarters; in the fray, Nana and Popo will sometimes freeze opponents.
The colors of the Ice Climbers' parkas denotes who's in the lead: Nana's in red or orange, while Popo's in green or purple. Their hairstyles are also slightly different. Belay allows them to cover great distances, but doesn't give foes the chance to target their landing. Blizzard is best used in close quarters; in the fray, Nana and Popo will sometimes freeze opponents.- Up & B: Belay
- Down & B: Blizzard
In Super Smash Bros. Brawl
As playable characters
The Ice Climbers return in Super Smash Bros. Brawl as starter characters. As in Melee, players can still choose between Popo or Nana as the leader of the duo, depending on which costume is chosen. Like their fellow veterans, the Ice Climbers now have a Final Smash; in their case, it is Iceberg, which fittingly consists of a large iceberg that occupies a large portion of the screen and inflicts damage and/or freezes opponents.[5]
Although Brawl's game engine removed wavedashing and wobbling, the Ice Climbers were nevertheless buffed in the transition to Brawl. Compared to their appearance in Melee, the partner climber's AI is smarter while separated from the leader. Most notably, the player will control the partner when the leader grabs an opponent.
This, coupled with the modifications to their back and down throws, results in the Ice Climbers being among the handful of characters capable of zero-to-death chain grabs. On a similar note, the Ice Climbers' recovery has improved: Belay now functions as a tether recovery, and both climbers can now hang on an edge at the same time.
Due to the combination of their buffs and largely retained strengths, the Ice Climbers are currently ranked 2nd out of 38 on the tier list. In addition to positioning them as top-tier characters, this makes the Ice Climbers and Meta Knight the only characters who are the sole occupants of their own respective tiers (S for the Ice Climbers and SS for Meta Knight).
Trophy
- Ice Climbers
- The one in blue is Popo, and the one in pink is Nana. They use their incredible jumping powers and hammers to break blocks and climb to the summit. They grab veggies, and if they can catch the condor at the end, they conquer the mountain. Other than breaking blocks, their hammers are good for sending foes flying, climbing down from blocks, and destroying icicles.
: Ice Climber
Sticker
| Name | Game | Effect | Fighter(s) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nana | Ice Climber |  Attack +29
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.png) Nana (Ice Climber) |
In Super Smash Bros. 4
The Ice Climbers did not return as playable characters in Super Smash Bros. 4, but were playable during the development of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.[10] According to Masahiro Sakurai, their removal was the result of requiring "significant processing power" to control in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS, adding that the 3DS was already being pushed to its limits and that he "couldn’t get them to work no matter how hard [he] tried."[10] Possible suggestions and solutions were attempted, such as removing joints from their model, as well as certain effects such as gravity. However, these suggestions and solutions did not yield results.[10]
Aside from functionality, Sakurai stated that the Ice Climbers were lower priority inclusions, due to them being an example of characters whose home series had little to no possibility of having a new installment. While they could have been Wii U-exclusive characters, Sakurai wanted the rosters to be identical for both games.[10] These issues ultimately resulted in the Ice Climbers being cut as playable characters and instead relegated to being a trophy.[10]
Trophy
- Ice Climbers
- This pair of adventurers starred in an action game released in 1985. Popo wears blue, and Nana wears red. The goal of their adventure was to reach the top of the mountain, collecting vegetables and defeating animals along the way. Grabbing the condor earned them a nice bonus too!
- : Ice Climber (10/1985)
- Popo (in blue) and Nana (in pink) are the daring adventurers from the two-player platformer Ice Climber, released in Europe in 1986. In that game, your goal is to head up a mountain, breaking blocks and taking out pesky critters along the way. When you get to the top, you can collect veg and grab on to the condor to get bonus points! Nice!
- : Ice Climber (09/1986)
In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
As playable characters
The Ice Climbers return as playable characters in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. They were formally announced alongside the rest of the cast within Ultimate's E3 2018 trailer on June 12th, 2018.[11] Unlike their previous appearances, they are unlockable characters.
Although the Ice Climbers are still capable of desyncing, the technique itself is more difficult to perform because of changes to the partner climber's artificial intelligence brought about at launch and via game updates. This is further compounded by the loss of chain grabbing as of SSB4 and the partner climber no longer being capable of attacking when the leader has or is grabbed. As a result, more creative techniques are required in order to fully utilize their gameplay.
Spirit
606. Ice Climbers
Names in other languages
Ice Climbers
| Language | Name | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
 Japanese |
アイスクライマー, Ice Climber | — |
 English |
Ice Climbers | — |
 French |
Ice Climbers | — |
 German |
Ice Climbers | — |
 Spanish |
Ice Climbers | — |
 Italian |
Ice Climbers | — |
 Chinese |
翻越冰山者, Ice Climber | Ice Mountaineers |
 Korean |
얼음 타기, Ice Climber | Ice Climbing |
 Dutch |
Ice Climbers | — |
 Russian |
Альпинисты | Alpinists |
 Portuguese |
Ice Climbers | — |
Popo and Nana
| Language | Name | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
| German |
Pèpè und Nana | An edit, due to "Popo" meaning buttocks in German. |
| Korean |
포포 와 나나 | Popo and Nana |
| Russian |
Попо и Нана | Popo and Nana |
Trivia
- The Ice Climbers' Target Test in Melee is heavily based on the gameplay of Ice Climber.[1]
- In the Super Smash Bros. series, the Ice Climbers are unaffected by icy terrain. However, in Ice Climber, they are affected by ice.
- This is likely due to them gaining ice cleats from their redesigns in the Super Smash Bros. series.
- In both Melee and Brawl, the Ice Climbers appear to be left-handed, as they wield their hammers using their left hands. Although they appear to be left-handed in their Ultimate artwork, they are actually ambidextrous during regular gameplay in Ultimate.
- This is an oddity among one-handed weapon fighters in the Super Smash Bros. series, who will keep their weapon in the same hand and have their back face the screen in a certain direction to keep attacks similar in both directions. This also resembles the sprites common in NES era games where left and right sprites were the same images flipped, thus making the characters switch hands.
- The Ice Climbers are the only characters to appear in multiple Super Smash Bros. installments before being cut.
- The Ice Climbers, Lucas, and Pokémon Trainer are the only starter characters to be cut in any game, although Lucas would return in Smash 4 through DLC. The three of them are also the only cut veterans who have trophies in SSB4 that use their models from Brawl.
- The Ice Climbers and Solid Snake are the only characters from single-character universes to be absent for a game before returning to the Super Smash Bros. series.
References
- ^ a b c d e f "Who are the Ice Climbers?" Nintendo Power, issue number 152, January 2002, pg. 24
- ^ Cool Box Art on Twitter: "Ice Climber / Arcade flyer / Nintendo / 1985"
- ^ Ice Climber (1985) cover art MobyGames
- ^ a b c d e News Flash! Smash Bros. Dojo: Ice Climbers Source Gaming - September 9, 2015
- ^ a b Smash Bros. DOJO!! - Ice Climbers
- ^ http://sourcegaming.info/2015/03/23/if-there-were-a-smash-2-poll/ If there was a Smash 2 Poll
- ^ https://sourcegaming.info/2015/09/26/sakurai-on-character-choices/ Sakurai On: Character Choices
- ^ Smash Reader Response Page 9: Meaning behind Smash Logo, Lip, Ice Climbers and Balloon Fight
- ^ Smashboards post detailing Nana's CPU level
- ^ a b c d e "I Answer Some Questions" Sakurai Famitsu column vol. 461-464, on Ice Climbers, clones, and Smash Run
- ^ Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - E3 2018 - Nintendo Switch
 Ice Climber universe
| |
|---|---|
| Fighter | Ice Climbers (SSBM · SSBB · SSBU) |
| Stages | Icicle Mountain · Summit |
| Items | Vegetables |
| Enemies | Polar Bear · Topi |
| Other | Condor |
| Trophies, Stickers and Spirits | Trophies (SSBM · SSBB) · Stickers · Spirits |
| Music | Brawl · Ultimate |
| Masterpiece | Ice Climber |
