Template:SSB4 to SSBU changelist/Ice Climbers: Difference between revisions

===Aesthetics===

*{{change|Nana has received new voice-clips for a few of her moveset, such as her smash attacks.}}

*{{change|The Ice Climbers' [[spot dodging]], [[air dodging]] and ledge-hanging animations have changed.}}

*{{change|At the end of a solo-match, only the leading Ice Climber will be shown inside the losing pane on the [[results screen]]. Both Ice Climbers are still shown if the match ends in a [[No Contest]].}}

*{{change|The Ice Climbers' [[crowd]] cheer is "I scream, you scream, Ice Climbers!"}}

*{{bugfix|Nana's crowd cheer is no longer the back-sound of the menu if she is currently the leader.}}

===Attributes===

*{{buff|Like all characters, both of the Ice Climbers' [[jumpsquat]] animations take 3 frames to complete (down from 4).}}

**{{nerf|This makes [[desynching]] slightly more difficult to perform.}}

*{{nerf|The partner now stands slightly behind the leader, in addition to being slightly in the z-axis. This reduces their grounded moveset's range, minus [[down smash]] due to hitting behind the partner.}}

*{{buff|The Ice Climbers [[walk]] faster (0.96 → 1.008 (leader), 1.1088 (partner)).}}

**{{buff|Their [[initial dash]] is noticeably faster (1.4 → 1.68).}}

*{{change|The Ice Climbers' [[falling speed]] is faster (1.2 → 1.3).}}

*{{change|The Ice Climbers' [[gravity]] is slightly higher (0.077 → 0.082), although it is lower relative to the cast.}}

*{{buff|The following Ice Climber's [[air acceleration]] is slightly higher (0.09 → 0.0945).}}

*{{buff|Forward [[roll]] has less ending lag (FAF 31 → 30).}}

*{{nerf|Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-19 → 5-16) and more ending lag (FAF 31 → 35).}}

*{{nerf|[[Spot dodge]] has more startup with less intangibility (frames 2-20 → 3-17).}}

*{{buff|The reintroduction of directional air dodging benefits the Ice Climbers more than most of the other returning veterans, as the duo have access to using a secondary recovering option with them or can extend or mix-up their recovery by using one, especially when combined with [[Belay]]'s long distance as a [[tether recovery]].}}

**{{buff|The following Ice Climber now performs a directional air dodge if off-stage when separated from the leader, instead of typically using Belay to recover.}}

**{{buff|The introduction of [[Air dodge#Air dodge landing lag glitch|air dodge landing lag glitch]] benefits the Ice Climbers more than any other returning veteran, as if the duo perform an uninterrupted air dodge and land on the floor in their [[helpless]] states after using [[Squall Hammer]], their normal landing lag will get approximately reduced.}}

*{{nerf|The following Ice Climber's [[AI]] is worse as they have more difficulty recovering and making it back to the leader, which can lead to them [[self-destruct]]ing.}}

*{{bugfix|When the leader is KO'd by reaching 0 HP during their last stock in [[Stamina Mode]], the partner climber instantly enters the defeat animation regardless of being hit or not, similar to [[Rosalina & Luma (SSBU)|Rosalina's Lumas]].}}

===Ground attacks===

*[[Neutral attack]]:

**{{buff|The partner's second hit deals more damage (2% → 2.6%) without full compensation on knockback (45 (base)/100 (scaling) → 60/95), improving its KO potential when combined with the second hit's lowered angle.}}

**{{buff|The first hit transitions into the second hit earlier (frame 11 → 10).}}

**{{buff|The first hit can be transitioned into the second hit by holding/tapping onto the attack input for 10-30 frames, or by holding onto the button until frame 13, as opposed to tapping the button until frame 11.}}

**{{nerf|The move deals less damage (3% → 2% (leader hit 1), 4% → 3.5% (leader hit 2), 2% → 1.5% (partner hit 1), 11% → 9.6% (total)).}}

**{{nerf|Both hits have a shorter duration (frames 4-7 (hit 1), 4-6 (hit 2) → 4-5 (both)).}}

**{{nerf|The first hit has an increased [[hitlag]] multiplier (1.0× → 1.3×), giving the opponent more time to [[SDI]] it.}}

*[[Forward tilt]]:

**{{nerf|The partner's forward tilt deals less damage (7% (non angled) → 6.75%).}}

**{{nerf|The move has a shorter duration (frames 9-12 → 9-10).}}

**{{change|The partner's forward tilt has an increased [[hitlag]] multiplier (0.5× → 1×), matching the leader's.}}

*[[Up tilt]]:

*[[Down tilt]]:

**{{buff|Due to the increased [[traction]] across the cast, opponents do not slide back as much upon [[tripping]] from down tilt, improving its reliability for starting combos.}}

*[[Dash attack]]:

**{{buff|The move has a longer duration (frames 11-12 → 11-14).}}

**{{buff|The outermost-hitbox has been extended forward (Y offset: 5u → 5u—7.5u), increasing its range.}}

*[[Forward smash]]:

**{{nerf|It no longer provides a sweetspot that deals more damage, reducing its overall maximum damage output (13% → 12% (leader), 10% → 9% (partner), 23% → 21% (both)).}}

**{{buff|The loss of hitstun canceling improves the move's ability to lead into combos.}}

**{{nerf|It has more ending lag (FAF 48 → 50).}}

*[[Down smash]]:

**{{change|Down smash has been reworked: each Ice Climber individually sweep their hammers at specific directions (with the leader sweeping in front, while the partner sweeps behind the leader).}}

**{{buff|It has less ending lag (FAF 44 → 41).}}

**{{nerf|Due to its altered animation, it is drastically harder to connect with both climbers.}}

===Aerial attacks===

*{{buff|All aerials have less [[landing lag]] (15 frames → 7 (neutral/back), 20 → 10 (forward), 30 → 14 (up), 42 → 20 (down).}}

*[[Neutral aerial]]:

**{{buff|The move's lowered landing lag improves its utility in combos both desynced and synced.}}

*[[Forward aerial]]:

**{{buff|The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes improves the combo potential of the partner's sweetspotted forward aerial onstage, compounded further by its reduced landing lag.}}

*[[Back aerial]]:

*[[Up aerial]]:

**{{nerf|It provides less vertical range compared to the previous one, making it much harder to connect against grounded opponents.}}

*[[Down aerial]]:

**{{buff|The removal of the [[stall-then-fall glitch]] allows the Ice Climbers to land with the move more reliably out of hitstun.}}

**{{change|The Ice Climbers bounce up before performing down aerial, similar to {{SSBU|Sheik}}'s down aerial.}}

***{{nerf|As a result, it has more startup with a shorter duration (frames 9-51 → 12-51).}}

**{{change|If missing a grab, the leading Ice Climber will receive a surprised expression.}}

**{{buff|Their dash grabs grant more horizontal momentum and substantial speed-boost, improving their approaching potential despite their increased ending lag.}}

*{{nerf|The partner cannot act while the leader is held by an opponent's [[grab]] while on the ground, and enters a panicking animation instead (although this can be avoided with desyncs).}}

*{{nerf|The partner can no longer grab, and will [[taunt]] with a cheerful jump during the leader's throw while on the ground. This removes their [[chain grabs]] and [[lock]]s the Ice Climbers were infamous for in previous titles.}}

*[[Pummel]]:

**{{nerf|The hitbox has a shorter duration (frames 11-12 → 1).}}

*[[Forward throw]]:

**{{buff|The removal of hitstun canceling improves its utility in [[tech-chasing]] and setting up an edgeguard.}}

**{{nerf|The collateral hitbox has a significantly increased hitlag multiplier (0.3x → 1.2×), making it much easier to DI.}}

*[[Back throw]]:

**{{buff|The removal of hitstun canceling allows back throw to lead into follow-ups both desynced and synced, as well as improving its ability to set up an edgeguard.}}

**{{nerf|The removal of [[chain grab]]ing drastically hinders the move's utility.}}

*[[Up throw]]:

**{{buff|The collateral hitbox lasts longer (frame 25 → 25-26).}}

**{{nerf|The collateral hitbox has a significantly increased hitlag multiplier (0.2x → 1.2×), giving the opponent much more time to DI.}}

**{{change|The leading Ice Climber clinches the opponent with both hands, lift them up in the air before slamming them on the ground.}}

**{{buff|The changes to [[hitstun canceling]] improve down throw's combo potential beyond lower percents with a solo-climber.}}

**{{nerf|The removal of chain grabbing hinders down throw's damage-racking potential at lower percents, even with a solo-climber.}}

*[[Floor attack]]:

**{{buff|The leader's floor attacks deals more damage (6% → 7%).}}

*[[Edge attack]]:

**{{nerf|The Ice Climbers do not hunch over when performing it, making them easier to punish.}}

===Special moves===

*[[Ice Shot]]:

**{{buff|It has less ending lag (FAF 60 → 56).}}

*[[Squall Hammer]]:

**{{buff|Desynced Squall Hammer has more consistent utility to trap opponents between both Ice Climbers.}}

**{{nerf|Duo Squall Hammer has more startup (frame 9 → 10) and ending lag (FAF 70 → 78).}}

*[[Belay]]:

**{{buff|Belay has increased [[tether recovery|tether recovering]] distance.}}

**{{buff|The leader is no longer prevented from using the move if it is automatically performed by the partner.}}

**{{buff|Belay covers slightly more distance with a solo-climber, and the solo-climber possesses more control while using it.}}

**{{change|When both Ice Climbers are present, the solo-climber covers more vertical distance, but less horizontal distance, making their [[recovery]] slightly more linear.}}

***{{buff|The duo's faster [[air speed]] and improved aerial mobility nevertheless makes Belay less linear, improving their recovery.}}

**{{nerf|Belay has a smaller hitbox (7.0u → 6.0u), making it harder to land against grounded opponents.}}

*[[Blizzard]]:

**{{buff|The universal changes to [[freeze|freezing]] duration result in Blizzard freezing opponents for a much longer period overall, no longer allowing the opponent to thaw out almost immediately.}}

*[[Iceberg]]:

**{{buff|Opponents can no longer damage the iceberg and make it recede.}}

**{{change|When paired, the Ice Climbers no longer emit a whooshing sound upon activating Iceberg.}}

**{{change|The iceberg no longer has solid terrain, and instead utilizes stronger [[windbox]]es to push both opponents and the Ice Climbers out. This overall weakens the move's ability to interrupt recoveries, especially combined with the new vertical knockback, and prevents the Ice Climbers from standing on the peak. However, it also does not obstruct the Climbers as much, nor will it block ledges, making it less likely to cause the following climber to [[SD]]. In addition, it can no longer be performed to make the Ice Climbers clip through stage-objects, as this was caused by a pair of merging walls.}}