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::::The bolded part is what's relevant here, "once notable, always notable" doesn't mean the original notability approval is infallible and can never be questioned. So even if you were to argue Giant Kirby, Yoshi team, etc, were once deemed notable enough for their own articles, the counterargument is simply they never were notable in the first place, and the articles would have been shot down then if we had our current standards and knowledge we have now. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:52, July 1, 2023 (EDT) | ::::The bolded part is what's relevant here, "once notable, always notable" doesn't mean the original notability approval is infallible and can never be questioned. So even if you were to argue Giant Kirby, Yoshi team, etc, were once deemed notable enough for their own articles, the counterargument is simply they never were notable in the first place, and the articles would have been shot down then if we had our current standards and knowledge we have now. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:52, July 1, 2023 (EDT) | ||
:::I'm not going to debate much over Giant Kirby/Giant Bowser, I do agree that the justification to keep them is flimsy. I'm on the fence about the Kirby team; unlike Giant Kirby/Bowser, the Kirby team isn't just "the Team stage with Kirby", and the same gimmick appears in multiple games. The Yoshi Team has historical importance for the evolution of non-Smash Bros. content, and thus will stay. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Resolute 14:29, July 1, 2023 (EDT) | :::::I'm not going to debate much over Giant Kirby/Giant Bowser, I do agree that the justification to keep them is flimsy. I'm on the fence about the Kirby team; unlike Giant Kirby/Bowser, the Kirby team isn't just "the Team stage with Kirby", and the same gimmick appears in multiple games. The Yoshi Team has historical importance for the evolution of non-Smash Bros. content, and thus will stay. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Resolute 14:29, July 1, 2023 (EDT) | ||
::::::"''the Kirby team isn't just "the Team stage with Kirby''" | |||
::::::The Kirbies starting with copy abilities is really no different than the many other single-player battles where someone gets something that they normally wouldn't, like the permanent invisible Fox/Falco on [[Event 23: Slippy's Invention]], the player starting with a perpetual final smash in [[Event 2: Landmaster Ignition]], all the metal and giant characters in other modes, and all the things that spirit battles do. | |||
::::::"''The Yoshi Team has historical importance for the evolution of non-Smash Bros. content, and thus will stay.''" | |||
::::::Aside from you not being able to unilaterally say "this will stay", this claim is just wrong; several different-colored Yoshis were already depicted since his inception, and was expanded farther upon in Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story, both of which precedes Smash 64. "Yoshi team" in Smash did not invent the concept of there being several different colored Yoshis. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:51, July 1, 2023 (EDT) | |||