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'''Greatest of all time''', often shortened to '''GOAT''', is an informal title used by a fanbase to label a person considered the best ever to compete or participate in a particular field. The term is most widely used in professional sports; for example, most basketball players and fans consider either {{iw|wikipedia|Michael Jordan}} or {{iw|wikipedia|LeBron James}}. It is also used in other competitive fields such as chess or video gaming; {{iw|wikipedia|Faker|gamer}} is widely seen as the greatest ''League of Legends'' player of all time. | '''Greatest of all time''', often shortened to '''GOAT''', is an informal title used by a fanbase to label a person considered the best ever to compete or participate in a particular field. The term is most widely used in professional sports; for example, most basketball players and fans consider either {{iw|wikipedia|Michael Jordan}} or {{iw|wikipedia|LeBron James}}. It is also used in other competitive fields such as chess or video gaming; {{iw|wikipedia|Faker|gamer}} is widely seen as the greatest ''League of Legends'' player of all time. | ||
The ''Super Smash Bros.'' series has been played competitively | The ''Super Smash Bros.'' series has been played competitively [[Tournament:Smash Bros. Fighting Battle: Smash Bros. Meijin Deciding Game|as early as 1999]] in its native Japan, and as the tournament scene has continued to develop, the communities for each game in the series have formed a consensus around one, or several, candidates considered the "greatest of all time" for their particular title. | ||
Common criteria used to judge the greatest of all time include: | Common criteria used to judge the greatest of all time include: | ||
*Level of dominance over the rest of the competition during the player's peak performance. | *Level of dominance over the rest of the competition during the player's peak performance. | ||
*Number of first-place finishes at major or supermajor tournaments, as well as the prestige of the tournaments won. For example, in ''Melee'', | *Number of first-place finishes at major or supermajor tournaments, as well as the prestige of the tournaments won. For example, in ''Melee'', {{Trn|EVO}} is widely considered to have the most prestige. | ||
*Longevity (length of time spent competing as a top player). | *Longevity (length of time spent competing as a top player). | ||
*Consistency as a top player; for example, how often the player lost to | *Consistency as a top player; for example, how often the player lost to those ranked below them. | ||
*Influence on the development of the [[metagame]] or the competitive scene. | *Influence on the development of the [[metagame]] or the competitive scene. | ||
==In ''Super Smash Bros. 64''== | ==In ''Super Smash Bros. 64''== | ||
{{Sm|Isai}} is widely considered to be the greatest ''Smash 64'' player of all time. <ref>{{cite web|url=http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/fight-club-catching-a-beating-at-the-super-bowl-of-super-smash-bros/|title="Fight Club: Catching a Beating at the Super Bowl of ‘Super Smash Bros.’"}}</ref> This is due to his extended longevity as a competitor and dominance over the ''Smash 64'' scene across all regions of the world (most famously showcased during his trip to Japan in 2006-2007). | {{Sm|Isai}} is widely considered to be the greatest ''Smash 64'' player of all time.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/fight-club-catching-a-beating-at-the-super-bowl-of-super-smash-bros/|title="Fight Club: Catching a Beating at the Super Bowl of ‘Super Smash Bros.’"}}</ref> This is due to his extended longevity as a competitor and dominance over the ''Smash 64'' scene across all regions of the world (most famously showcased during his trip to Japan in 2006-2007). | ||
==In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee''== | ==In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee''== | ||
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A significant share of the ''Melee'' community, however, argues that {{Sm|Mango}} is the greatest ''Melee'' player of all time. His major accomplishments include first place finishes at {{Trn|EVO 2013}} and {{Trn|EVO 2014}}, matching Armada's record of EVO victories, along with wins at {{Trn|Pound 3}}, {{Trn|GENESIS}}, {{Trn|The Big House 4}}, and {{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}}. | A significant share of the ''Melee'' community, however, argues that {{Sm|Mango}} is the greatest ''Melee'' player of all time. His major accomplishments include first place finishes at {{Trn|EVO 2013}} and {{Trn|EVO 2014}}, matching Armada's record of EVO victories, along with wins at {{Trn|Pound 3}}, {{Trn|GENESIS}}, {{Trn|The Big House 4}}, and {{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}}. | ||
Mango was considered a top-ten player in 2007, and has since remained as a top five player from 2008 to the present, aside from a period in 2010-2011 | Mango was considered a top-ten player in 2007, and has since remained as a top five player from 2008 to the present, aside from a period in 2010-2011 he spent [[sandbagging]] as Scorpion Master. He was considered one of the two best players in the world in 2008, and the undisputed best player in the world from 2009-2010 and 2013-2014. He was ranked 1st on the 2013 and 2014 SSBMRank. | ||
Supporters of Mango cite his greater longevity compared to Armada with his peaks being just as dominant, if not greater than, Armada's (for example, winning back-to-back EVOs which no other player has done), They also argue that he was able to achieve number one in the world using three different characters (Jigglypuff, Falco, and Fox), all with different playstyles. Mango is often seen as the most influential and recognizable ''Melee'' player, as he popularized a highly aggressive and read-based style of play with his space animals, which made him a fan favorite at tournaments, and he boasts the largest [[Twitch]] following out of any ''Melee'' player; he is often regarded as the "protagonist" of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://bignokh.com/2018/03/16/the-top-100-melee-players-of-all-time-the-final-five|title="The Top 100 Melee Players of All-Time: The Final Five"}}</ref>, Mango is commonly nicknamed "the GOAT" or "ManGOAT," even by players who consider Armada the greatest of all time. | Supporters of Mango cite his greater longevity compared to Armada with his peaks being just as dominant, if not greater than, Armada's (for example, winning back-to-back EVOs which no other player has done), They also argue that he was able to achieve number one in the world using three different characters (Jigglypuff, Falco, and Fox), all with different playstyles. Mango is often seen as the most influential and recognizable ''Melee'' player, as he popularized a highly aggressive and read-based style of play with his space animals, which made him a fan favorite at tournaments, and he boasts the largest [[Twitch]] following out of any ''Melee'' player; he is often regarded as the "protagonist" of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://bignokh.com/2018/03/16/the-top-100-melee-players-of-all-time-the-final-five|title="The Top 100 Melee Players of All-Time: The Final Five"}}</ref>, Mango is commonly nicknamed "the GOAT" or "ManGOAT," even by players who consider Armada the greatest of all time. | ||
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==In ''Super Smash Bros. 4''== | ==In ''Super Smash Bros. 4''== | ||
{{Sm|ZeRo}} | {{Sm|ZeRo}} is widely considered to be the greatest ''Smash 4'' player of all time. From 2014 to 2017, ZeRo placed first at nearly every tournament he entered, including a 56-tournament winning streak from 2014 to 2015. Taking a set off of ZeRo was often considered one of the highlights of a ''Smash 4'' player's career. Although ZeRo retired from entering ''Smash 4'' tournaments in 2018, no other player was about to match ZeRo's level of dominance and consistency before the end of the game's competitive life, leaving his claim as the ''Smash 4'' GOAT undisputed. | ||
==In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''== | ==In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''== | ||
While the game is only a few years old, {{Sm|MkLeo}} has dominated the competitive scene for its entire lifespan so far, placing 1st at most of the game's significant tournaments. Widely regarded as the game's strongest player, his results suffered somewhat during the switch to online play due to the [ | While the game is only a few years old, {{Sm|MkLeo}} has dominated the competitive scene for its entire lifespan so far, placing 1st at most of the game's significant tournaments. Widely regarded as the game's strongest player, his results suffered somewhat during the switch to online play due to the [[COVID-19 pandemic]]. Nonetheless, his perception as ''Ultimate's'' top player remains unchanged, with him continuing his streak of making Grand Finals at offline tournaments he attended until {{Trn|Smash Ultimate Summit 4}}, along with his positive head to head records against the significant majority of top players. | ||
==In ''Project M''== | ==In ''Project M''== | ||