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Similar to [[shield platform dropping]], this technique is done by performing a shine while on a soft [[platform]], and then dropping through it by pressing down on the control stick. This technique is the trigger to activate Shine Mines.
Similar to [[shield platform dropping]], this technique is done by performing a shine while on a soft [[platform]], and then dropping through it by pressing down on the control stick. This technique is the trigger to activate Shine Mines.


===Shine mines===
===Shine mine===
[[File:Shine_mine.gif|thumb|200px|Fox's shine mine in ''Melee''.]]
[[File:Shine_mine.gif|thumb|200px|Fox's shine mine in ''Melee''.]]
Fox and Falco can also perform a technique referred to as Shine Mining, a term coined and discovered by {{Sm|Darktooth}}, in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. It is performed by first shining or powershielding in the location the player wishes to leave the shine mine. When placing a mine, there must also exist a projectile in play that could be reflected, until the player exits their shine or powershield. If powershield is used to place the mine, then the player must also interrupt their shield with something by the 3rd frame of their powershield. Then, when the player wishes to activate the mine, they must perform a shine drop through a platform anywhere on stage, and the mine will become an active reflector for exactly two frames starting from the 2nd frame after activation. It is important to note that the mine does not have the knockback and damage properties of the initial frames of a normal reflector - it can only reflect projectiles. The limited uses and difficult input timing make this technique extremely situational, but it can be used in various ways for [[edge-guarding]].
Fox and Falco can also perform a technique referred to as Shine Mining, a term coined and discovered by {{Sm|Darktooth}}, in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. It is performed by first shining or powershielding in the location the player wishes to leave the shine mine. When placing a mine, there must also exist a projectile in play that could be reflected, until the player exits their shine or powershield. If powershield is used to place the mine, then the player must also interrupt their shield with something by the 3rd frame of their powershield. Then, when the player wishes to activate the mine, they must perform a shine drop through a platform anywhere on stage, and the mine will become an active reflector for exactly two frames starting from the 2nd frame after activation. It is important to note that the mine does not have the knockback and damage properties of the initial frames of a normal reflector - it can only reflect projectiles. The limited uses and difficult input timing make this technique extremely situational, but it can be used in various ways for [[edge-guarding]].
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Sometimes a player has an usable shine mine at match start, without having to do anything to place it.<ref>https://smashboards.com/threads/new-at-shine-mines.352753/#post-22016056</ref>The existence of this ''go mine'' depends on stage, the characters in game, and the port order of the controllers of those characters.
Sometimes a player has an usable shine mine at match start, without having to do anything to place it.<ref>https://smashboards.com/threads/new-at-shine-mines.352753/#post-22016056</ref>The existence of this ''go mine'' depends on stage, the characters in game, and the port order of the controllers of those characters.


===Shine Grabbing===
===Shine grab===
In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' Fox (along with Falco) can grab immediately out of a shine. This is possible because shine is interruptible with a jump which from there the player can perform a [[jump-canceled grab]]. The resulting animation shows a shine immediately followed by a grab. This is useful because when performed on an opponent's shield, if the shine doesn't hit then the grab will due to the grab's property of beating shields. This technique isn't unbeatable however. If one can predict a shine grab or other techniques, he can roll away before the grab is performed. This particular situation plays into the role of [[mindgames]].
In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' Fox (along with Falco) can grab immediately out of a shine. This is possible because shine is interruptible with a jump which from there the player can perform a [[jump-canceled grab]]. The resulting animation shows a shine immediately followed by a grab. This is useful because when performed on an opponent's shield, if the shine doesn't hit then the grab will due to the grab's property of beating shields. This technique isn't unbeatable however. If one can predict a shine grab or other techniques, he can roll away before the grab is performed. This particular situation plays into the role of [[mindgames]].


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