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In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', if a meteor smash on a grounded opponent does not induce enough knockback to knock the opponent off the ground, it has a chance of [[tripping]] them. | In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', if a meteor smash on a grounded opponent does not induce enough knockback to knock the opponent off the ground, it has a chance of [[tripping]] them. | ||
In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', characters that are meteor smashed onto a [[floor]] will bounce back up. While this allows certain [[Final Smash]]es to incorporate downwards finishers and still result in KOs when used on stage, it also allows players to [[tech]] even if they were standing on the ground (unless it is an attack with a very high amount of [[freeze frame]]s, such as {{SSB4|Ganondorf}}'s down air). In addition, stronger meteor smashes are now denoted by a unique sound effect upon connection. Meteor smashes also gained the ability to [[lock]] opponents if they don't induce enough knockback to knock the opponent off the ground. | In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', characters that are meteor smashed onto a [[floor]] will bounce back up even from a midair hit. While this allows certain [[Final Smash]]es to incorporate downwards finishers and still result in KOs when used on stage, it also allows players to [[tech]] even if they were standing on the ground (unless it is an attack with a very high amount of [[freeze frame]]s, such as {{SSB4|Ganondorf}}'s down air). In addition, stronger meteor smashes are now denoted by a unique sound effect upon connection. Meteor smashes also gained the ability to [[lock]] opponents if they don't induce enough knockback to knock the opponent off the ground. | ||
In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'', meteor smashes done on | In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'', meteor smashes done on grounded-standing characters can no longer be teched. In addition, if a character is hit by a meteor smash and their total speed is 3 units per frame (half the speed of when [[tech]]ing becomes impossible) or higher when they reach about 25 units below the camera boundary, they will be KO'd before reaching the lower blast line.<ref>https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/1221151119172345858</ref> This makes most meteor smash [[sacrificial KO]]s reliable ways of securing a win when both players are on last stock. Additionally, characters getting meteor smashed when their damage is over 100% now causes a unique knockback animation to play, similar to reeling (this is known as DamageFlyMeteor in the game's files). | ||
==General characteristics== | ==General characteristics== | ||
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As they hit opponents downwards, meteor smashes cause targets that are not in the air to immediately bounce off the ground they're standing on, reducing the knockback received by 20%<!--might actually be 15%, must confirm--> and thus making such attacks much weaker and less reliable KO moves on grounded targets; if the intended knockback is below a certain amount, it will not even deliver any vertical knockback at all, and instead merely cause [[flinch]]ing and perhaps [[trip]]ping in ''Brawl''. As a result, only the strongest meteor smashes (such as Ganondorf's down aerial) are viable KO moves in on-stage situations. Regardless, meteor smashes on grounded targets are one of the few moves in the series (especially ''Melee'') that are unable to be [[Crouch cancel| crouch-canceled]]. | As they hit opponents downwards, meteor smashes cause targets that are not in the air to immediately bounce off the ground they're standing on, reducing the knockback received by 20%<!--might actually be 15%, must confirm--> and thus making such attacks much weaker and less reliable KO moves on grounded targets; if the intended knockback is below a certain amount, it will not even deliver any vertical knockback at all, and instead merely cause [[flinch]]ing and perhaps [[trip]]ping in ''Brawl''. As a result, only the strongest meteor smashes (such as Ganondorf's down aerial) are viable KO moves in on-stage situations. Regardless, meteor smashes on grounded targets are one of the few moves in the series (especially ''Melee'') that are unable to be [[Crouch cancel| crouch-canceled]]. | ||
In games before ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', if a meteor smash connects on a midair target, the victim does not suffer any sort of bounce effect and will stop their fall, no matter how close to the ground/floor they are on | In games before ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', if a meteor smash connects on a midair target and the fall towards any surface, the victim does not suffer any sort of bounce effect and will stop their fall, no matter how close to the ground/floor they are on said surface that can block their fall. Because of this, they are able to [[tech]] from most meteor smashes with solid timing should they be able to impact a viable surface. In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', even if the victim is in midair, they will now bounce off the ground regardless if they have sustained a notable amount of damage for the proper amount of knockback power, which is needed for some meteor smashes for programmed reasons (such as most [[Final Smash]]es). | ||
Despite their reduced power on grounded opponents, the amount of [[hitstun]] delivered by a meteor smash is not affected by the knockback reduction, meaning such moves will cause more hitstun than non-meteor smashes with equal knockback. Combined with their vertical trajectory, this results in meteor smashes being excellent [[combo]] starters on grounded opponents. | Despite their reduced power on grounded opponents, the amount of [[hitstun]] delivered by a meteor smash is not affected by the knockback reduction, meaning such moves will cause more hitstun than non-meteor smashes with equal knockback. Combined with their vertical trajectory, this results in meteor smashes being excellent [[combo]] starters on grounded opponents. | ||
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==Meteor canceling== | ==Meteor canceling== | ||
'''Meteor canceling''' is the act of instantly negating the downwards knockback of a meteor smash by jumping or using an [[up special]] after being hit. In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', a meteor cancel can be done 8 frames after the hit lag ends, producing a distinctive wind-cutting sound and a sparkle (the character will also briefly glow white); in ''Brawl'', meteor cancels are not indicated and can only be done after 25 frames, though some characters have their own windows. Additionally, any time a jump input is made, even before the character is meteor smashed, a penalty period of 40 frames follows the jump input frame, during which they cannot meteor cancel with double jump. Likewise, an up special input starts a 40 frame penalty on meteor cancelling with up special. These meteor cancel penalties are independent: a character can meteor cancel with up special even during double jump penalty and vice versa. Though, oftentimes an up special input is also a jump input with control stick and starts both penalties simultaneously, but not always. In a similar vein to the [[tech]] penalty, these penalties prevent players from simply [[mash]]ing said inputs to easily pull off a meteor cancel. Characters can meteor cancel even if they were hit while grounded, though they must have bounced off a ceiling and still be taking the now-downwards knockback to do so. | '''Meteor canceling''' is the act of instantly negating the downwards knockback of a meteor smash by jumping or using an [[up special]] after being hit. In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', a meteor cancel can be done 8 frames after the hit lag ends, producing a distinctive wind-cutting sound and a sparkle (the character will also briefly glow white); in ''Brawl'', meteor cancels are not indicated and can only be done after 25 frames, though some characters have their own windows. | ||
Additionally, any time a jump input is made, even before the character is meteor smashed, a penalty period of 40 frames follows the jump input frame, during which they cannot meteor cancel with double jump. Likewise, an up special input starts a 40 frame penalty on meteor cancelling with up special. These meteor cancel penalties are independent: a character can meteor cancel with up special even during double jump penalty and vice versa. | |||
Though, oftentimes an up special input is also a jump input with the control stick and starts both penalties simultaneously, but not always. In a similar vein to the [[tech]] penalty, these penalties prevent players from simply [[mash]]ing said inputs to easily pull off a meteor cancel. Characters can meteor cancel even if they were hit while grounded, though they must have bounced off a ceiling and still be taking the now-downwards knockback to do so. | |||
Meteor canceling only exists in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', making meteor smashes in other games functionally equivalent to [[spike]]s. However, games after ''Brawl'' check the same angle range to play a unique sound effect for meteor smashes. | Meteor canceling only exists in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', making meteor smashes in other games functionally equivalent to [[spike]]s. However, games after ''Brawl'' check the same angle range to play a unique sound effect for meteor smashes. | ||