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[[File:Marth pivot fsmash.gif|thumb|250px|{{SSBM|Marth}} pivoting a forward smash in ''Melee''.]]
[[File:Marth pivot fsmash.gif|thumb|250px|{{SSBM|Marth}} pivoting a forward smash in ''Melee''.]]
'''Pivoting''', or '''DA Dashing''', is a [[technique]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', and ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' that lets a character use attacks out of a dash. The tactic was discovered originally in Melee by {{Sm|Philly Billy}}.
'''Pivoting''', or '''DA Dashing''', is a [[technique]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' and ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' that lets a character use attacks out of a dash. The tactic was originally discovered in ''Melee'' by {{Sm|Philly Billy}}.


The technique makes use of the time frame at which a character turns during a dash; any normal ground options are available as if the character were standing still - [[smash attack]]s, [[grab]]s and [[tilt]]s can occur here without the [[lag]] that usually comes from using these attacks after a [[dash]]. Normal pivoting is primarily used so that a character can quickly change the direction they are facing whilst not suffering the usual [[turn]]-around lag that would occur when doing so. This can allow characters to improve the utility of various moves in certain situations.
The technique makes use of the time frame at which a character turns during a dash; any normal ground options are available as if the character were standing still—[[smash attack]]s, [[grab]]s and [[tilt]]s can occur here without the [[lag]] that usually comes from using these attacks after a [[dash]]. Normal pivoting is primarily used so that a character can quickly change the direction they are facing while not suffering the usual [[turn]]around lag that would occur when doing so. This can allow characters to improve the utility of various moves in certain situations.


One use of pivoting is to dash a short distance away from an [[approach]]ing opponent and then turn around to attack them with a forward tilt, forward smash, grab, or aerial. This is particularly useful for characters with [[disjoint]]ed attacks or far-reaching grabs. Pivoting can also be used to quickly put the player in a position to punish [[roll]]s and [[tech]]s, as pictured. One specific use of this technique is for {{SSBM|Marth}}'s forward throw into forward smash. Typically the Marth would forward throw, [[wavedash]], and then forward smash. With pivoting instead of wavedashing, the player can bypass Marth's jumpsquat frames and landing frames allowing Marth to use forward smash much more quickly than if he were to use wavedashing.
One use of pivoting is to dash a short distance away from an [[approach]]ing opponent and then turn around to attack them with a forward tilt, forward smash, grab, or aerial. This is particularly useful for characters with [[disjoint]]ed attacks or far-reaching grabs. Pivoting can also be used to quickly put the player in a position to punish [[roll]]s and [[tech]]s, as pictured. One specific use of this technique is for {{SSBM|Marth}}'s forward throw into forward smash in ''Melee''. Typically the Marth would forward throw, [[wavedash]], and then forward smash. With pivoting instead of wavedashing, the player can bypass Marth's jumpsquat frames and landing frames, allowing Marth to use his forward smash much more quickly than if he were to use wavedashing.


In ''[[Smash 64]]'', pivoting off platforms makes it possible for characters to grab the ledge and proceed to edgeguard. This is known as a '''pivot ledgegrab'''. This is especially useful for {{SSB|Captain Falcon}} and {{SSB|Fox}} due to their long dash animations and fast falling speeds, though other characters are also able to use this technique. Captain Falcon, and to an extent other characters, can also make use of pivots in combos by comboing a forward throw into a pivot {{mvsub|Captain Falcon|SSB|up aerial}} resulting in low percentage kills due to how powerful the [[semi-spike]] hitbox is. Outside of helping with combos, multiple characters have very useful pivots otherwise as part of their neutral game. A prime example of this is with {{SSB|Kirby}} where pivoting is used to fully exploit his {{mvsub|Kirby|SSB|up tilt}} hitbox.
In ''[[Smash 64]]'', pivoting off platforms makes it possible for characters to grab the ledge and proceed to edgeguard. This is known as a '''pivot ledgegrab'''. This is especially useful for {{SSB|Captain Falcon}} and {{SSB|Fox}} due to their long dash animations and fast falling speeds, though other characters are also able to use this technique. Captain Falcon, and to an extent other characters, can also make use of pivots in combos by comboing a forward throw into a pivot {{mvsub|Captain Falcon|SSB|up aerial}} resulting in low percentage kills due to how powerful the [[semi-spike]] hitbox is. Outside of helping with combos, multiple characters have very useful pivots otherwise as part of their neutral game. A prime example of this is with {{SSB|Kirby}}, where pivoting is used to fully exploit his {{mvsub|Kirby|SSB|up tilt}} hitbox.


A similar technique in ''Smash 64'', the {{SSB|teleport}}, requires similar movement as pivoting.
A similar technique in ''Smash 64'', the {{SSB|teleport}}, requires similar movement as pivoting.


It is also possible to perform a pivot without attacking, causing the character to simply stop and turn around without any lag. This is known among ''SSB4'' players as a '''perfect pivot'''. A perfect pivot is borderline frame-perfect, so it is extremely difficult to do, especially with the flat analog stick on the 3DS. However, if a player can perform perfect pivots with consistency, the perfect pivot has potential use as a spacing move in competitive play. By performing a perfect pivot, a character will end up having moved backwards while still facing the same direction, and being able to attack right out of the perfect pivot. The distance the character covers depends on the character being used. A similar pivot also exists in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' although unless performed on [[ice]], a character will not slide making the pivot cover a very small distance.
It is also possible to perform a pivot without attacking, causing the character to simply stop and turn around without any lag. This is known among ''SSB4'' players as a '''perfect pivot'''. A perfect pivot is borderline frame-perfect, so it is extremely difficult to do, especially with the flat analog stick on the 3DS. However, if a player can perform perfect pivots with consistency, the perfect pivot has potential use as a spacing move in competitive play. By performing a perfect pivot, a character will end up having moved backwards while still facing the same direction, and being able to attack right out of the perfect pivot. The distance the character covers depends on the character being used. The perfect pivot also exists in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', although unless performed on [[ice]], a character will not slide, making the pivot cover a very small distance.


Pivoting with most attacks in ''Smash 4'' is generally less forgiving than in ''64'' or ''Melee'', as initial dashes are universally shorter between all characters, and most characters do not have good enough [[interruptibility]] on their initial dash to turn around afterwards for a pseudo-pivot. However, in ''Smash 4'', [[pivot grab]]s can be done at any point in the run, and results in a grab with longer reach and more endlag than usual. Such pivot grabs can also be performed in ''[[Brawl]]'' and pivot forward tilts and forward smashes can be performed after a certain point of the initial dash (when the turn-around animation begins to occur), and they will also slide a large distance during their execution.
Pivoting with most attacks in ''Brawl'' and ''SSB4'' is generally less forgiving than in ''64'' or ''Melee'', as initial dashes are universally shorter between all characters, and most characters do not have good enough [[interruptibility]] on their initial dash to turn around afterwards for a pseudo-pivot. However, in ''Brawl'' and ''SSB4'', [[pivot grab]]s can be done at any point in the run, and results in a grab with longer reach and more endlag than usual. In ''SSB4'', pivot forward tilts and forward smashes can be performed after a certain point of the initial dash (when the turn-around animation begins to occur), and they will also slide a large distance during their execution.


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