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I have brought this to discussion rather than simply removing the mention again, because that would violate policy and wouldn't meaningfully solve the dispute. [[User:Dr. HyperCake|Dr. HyperCake]] ([[User talk:Dr. HyperCake|talk]]) 03:43, 12 November 2018 (EST) | I have brought this to discussion rather than simply removing the mention again, because that would violate policy and wouldn't meaningfully solve the dispute. [[User:Dr. HyperCake|Dr. HyperCake]] ([[User talk:Dr. HyperCake|talk]]) 03:43, 12 November 2018 (EST) | ||
:It depends on how you interpret the semantic difference between the character as Tetra versus the character as Zelda. My reading of it from how Wind Waker handled it was that her actual name is Tetra and that "Zelda", at that point, essentially an honorary title applied to her by the King Daphnes more than anything. I figured that, since we had a page on Tetra as a character, that referring to Wind Waker's Zelda as Tetra, her given name, was still appropriate and that it would be worth linking to. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:17, 12 November 2018 (EST) | :It depends on how you interpret the semantic difference between the character as Tetra versus the character as Zelda. My reading of it from how Wind Waker handled it was that her actual name is Tetra and that "Zelda", at that point, essentially an honorary title applied to her by the King Daphnes more than anything. I figured that, since we had a page on Tetra as a character, that referring to Wind Waker's Zelda as Tetra, her given name, was still appropriate and that it would be worth linking to. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:17, 12 November 2018 (EST) | ||
::Well, let's compare it to the Sheik scenario. Sheik is much more objectively a case of a disguise persona compared to Tetra, and so it would be reasonable to state something like "Zelda (as Sheik) did X". One could do a similar thing for Tetra: "Tetra (as Zelda) did X"; but because of the nature of Tetra, it becomes much more based on subjective interpretation as to which is the true identity, which is of course the source of this dispute. Tetra's relevance to the context of Zelda's use of Light Arrows in ''The Wind Waker'' only appears with the interpretation of Tetra as the true identity, whereas just stating "Zelda used the Light Arrows" is an accurate statement regardless of interpretation, much like stating that Sheik taught Link songs in ''Ocarina of Time''. | |||
::I also argue that Zelda is as much the "true" identity in this case as Tetra, and so it is reasonable to omit any mention of Tetra. My interpretation is that they are each separate enough identity-wise that they can be viewed as separate characters of the same person; when one says "Tetra", it refers to the pirate, and when one says "Zelda" (or "Toon Zelda"), it refers to the princess. I suppose this is also comparable to Sheik in that sense. | |||
::I feel that if a reader wants to know more about Zelda in ''The Wind Waker'' (and thus her connection to Tetra), they may pursue the information easily elsewhere, but in the context, the mention is not relevant and is too subjective. | |||
::(Sorry for the wall of text. I've never been much good at making a point concisely.) [[User:Dr. HyperCake|Dr. HyperCake]] ([[User talk:Dr. HyperCake|talk]]) 16:02, 12 November 2018 (EST) | |||
== Vandalism == | == Vandalism == | ||
I’m just an IP, but [[User:Pagegriefer]] is vandalizing, as per his name. I undid his edits to you and BV’s userpages, but can’t report him on the admin notice board because it’s protected. So, I figured I’d just tell an admin. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 13:59, 12 November 2018 (EST)Blueflame105 | I’m just an IP, but [[User:Pagegriefer]] is vandalizing, as per his name. I undid his edits to you and BV’s userpages, but can’t report him on the admin notice board because it’s protected. So, I figured I’d just tell an admin. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 13:59, 12 November 2018 (EST)Blueflame105 | ||