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Well, we know the entire roster for Smash 4, so predictions for that are pointless- and it's never too early, right? :P
Well, we know the entire roster for Smash 4, so predictions for that are pointless- and it's never too early, right? :P


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#Characters must be featured mainly in video games. This does not mean video games based off of TV or movies, rather TV or movies based off of video games. (So Ash Ketchum would be acceptable, but Mickey Mouse would not.)
#Characters must be featured mainly in video games. This does not mean video games based off of TV or movies, rather TV or movies based off of video games. (So Ash Ketchum would be acceptable, but Mickey Mouse would not.)
#No more than 10 veterans may be cut.
#No more than 10 veterans may be cut.
#*Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Lucas, Wolf, Roy, etc. do not count against this.
#*Veterans that were cut in a previous game (such as Wolf or Snake) or DLC veterans (such as Mewtwo or Cloud) do not count as a cut character.
#Be creative and have fun!
#Be creative and have fun!
==Scoring System==
==Scoring System==
*'''Correct Newcomer Prediction - 10 points'''. A correct newcomer prediction is when a newcomer on your prediction roster is confirmed to be in the game. Pretty straightforward.
*'''Correct Newcomer Prediction - 10 points'''. A correct newcomer prediction is when a newcomer on your prediction roster is confirmed to be in the game. Pretty straightforward.
*'''Correct Veteran Prediction - 5 points'''. Like the above, but with veterans. Since it's pretty easy to predict this (I'm pretty sure Mario will return), it doesn't have as high a score as a correct newcomer prediction.
*'''Correct Veteran Prediction - 5 points'''. Like the above, but with veterans. Since it's pretty easy to predict this (I'm pretty sure Mario will return), it doesn't have as high a score as a correct newcomer prediction.
*'''Semi-Correct Prediction - 3 points'''. This is when you predict a transformation character or a team character, but only one of them appear. (i.e. you predict Zelda/Sheik, but only Sheik is confirmed). You get the three points for each character (meaning if you predict Pokemon Trainer with Greninja, Chespin, and Braixen and they all appear separately, you get 9 points.) However, there is no penalty if only part of the character is confirmed (only Greninja appears, not Chespin and Braixen), you just only get 3 points. This same rule applies to if you predict two characters separately but they are confirmed as transformations or a team, even if you only guessed one of the characters. If you predict a team character and only one of them appears with the other as a costume (like Popo with Nana as a costume instead of Popo & Nana as the Ice Climbers), you do not get 6 points, only 3. If you guess a character as a costume but they are confirmed as a separate character (i.e. Daisy as a Peach costume), you do not get any bonus points and are charged with a missing prediction.
*'''Semi-Correct Prediction - 3 points'''. This is when you predict a transformation character or a team character, but only one of them appear. (i.e. you predict Zelda/Sheik, but only Sheik is confirmed). You get the three points for each character (meaning if you predict Pokemon Trainer with Greninja, Chespin, and Braixen and they all appear separately, you get 9 points.) However, there is no penalty if only part of the character is confirmed (only Greninja appears, not Chespin and Braixen), you just only get 3 points. This same rule applies to if you predict two characters separately but they are confirmed as transformations or a team, even if you only guessed one of the characters. If you predict a team character and only one of them appears with the other as a costume (like Popo with Nana as a costume instead of Popo & Nana as the Ice Climbers), you do not get 6 points, only 3. If you guess a character as a costume but they are confirmed as a separate character (i.e. Daisy as a Peach costume), you do not get any bonus points and are charged with a missing prediction.
**If you guess a costume and the costume is not included, there is no penalty. The same applies to if a costume appears that was not guessed. The costumes are solely for fun.
*'''Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points'''. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
*'''Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points'''. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
*'''Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points'''. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.
*'''Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points'''. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.
*'''Incomplete Roster - Minus 1 point'''. If the first character is confirmed for Sma5h and you have not completed your roster (and it contains things like "Gen 7/8 Pokemon", "New Series Characters", or "WIP"), you will automatically lose 1 point. Any vague predictions ("Gen 7/8 Pokemon", "New Series Character") have no deductions, but you will get a Missing Prediction deduction if your roster was not finished.


When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.
When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.
Note that this competition is only for characters. Predictions on stages, alternate costumes, items, etc. are not considered part of the official competition, and therefore do not apply to your score.


''moved to [[User talk:Nutta Butta/Smash 5 Prediction!]]''
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===Nutta's Prediction===
===Nutta's Prediction===
[[File:SSB5 Prediction Roster.png]]
[[File:SSB5 Prediction Roster.png]]
Welp, here we go! Now for some explanations because I'm bored.
*<s>I did not add any Mario characters because, despite being the biggest and the mascot Nintendo series, they are way over-represented, with seven characters.</s> '''EDIT:''' Added Paper Mario as a new Mario representative.
**<s>The DK, Yoshi, and Wario universes did not get any extra representatives because they are only barely separate from the Mario universe.</s> '''EDIT:''' Added Dixie Kong as a newcomer<s>, kinda serves as a newcomer for all four</s>. '''EDIT:''' Also added Kamek as a villain representative for Yoshi. Besides Baby Mario & Baby Luigi (who I've considered as a tag-team), Kamek is the most important non-Yoshi in the series.
*I brought back the Ice Climbers because Sakurai cut them just because of them breaking the 3DS version. Since he likes his random characters, he'd probably bring them back once he's able to.
*I added Inkling because I think Splatoon! will be a pretty popular game, and its characters are really cool. I actually have an ink system worked out for him, but I won't go into to much detail.
*<s>Yuga joins the Zelda series, mostly to even it out with the Mario and Pokemon games a little. '''EDIT:''' Replaced Yuga with Midna, a much more popular and highly requested character.</s> '''EDIT:''' Replaced Midna with Skull Kid, another popular and highly-requested character who is also a villain, which would be nice to have. ...I really hate Ghirahim, btw.
*Krystal is added due to the fact that, alongside random characters, Sakurai also likes adding requested characters. Like King Dedede in Brawl and Mega Man in Smash 4. Also, she's a nice unique face for the Star Fox series, and would use her staff.
*<s>I added Ridley too, because of the same reason as Krystal (and because I really wanted the roster to be even). I've seen images of him in Brawl at the same size as Bowser and Charizard, and it wasn't entirely ridiculous. Although I still doubt he'll get in, he would make an okay addition.</s> Removed Ridley.
*Balloon Fighter joins as a new retro and random representative (heh heh, alliteration)
*Dillon because he was highly-requested and for an eShop representative.
*Waddle Dee because I think Sakurai will favor the Kirby series a little, since he favored the Kid Icarus in Smash 4. '''EDIT:''' Also added Prince Fluff, since besides Kirby, all of the current representatives are villains.
*Chorus Kids for a second random character (we had both WFT and Duck Hunt, right?) <s>'''EDIT:''' Cut Chorus Kids. Actually, I think most attempts at a random character will probably end it failure. I think getting the 3 point deduction would be better xD</s> '''EDIT:''' Brought them back.
*Mewtwo returns for Pokemon<s>- however, he's likely going to be replaced by a Gen VII newcomer once I have an idea of who they are. Maybe even Gen VIII.</s> '''EDIT:''' Due to Mewtwo being confirmed for DLC in SSB4, I think he's likely to return in SSB5 as non-DLC. <s>As such, Greninja will now be replaced by a Gen VII/VIII Pokemon.</s> '''EDIT:''' Added an extra spot specifically for a Pokemon newcomer, and all other characters will stick around.
*<s>Mallo is another eShop representative. And possibly a random character. In my opinion, he deserves it, but I'm sure someone disagrees.</s> '''EDIT:''' Due to lack of a moveset, cut Mallo.
*Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina return. <s>Try as I might I couldn't come up with a fourth clone (which is why I added Ridley). I considered Jolteon, Blood Falcon, and Dark Link, but none of them seemed like they would make the cut. But, I think Sakurai will keep clones in.</s> Personally, I like them. '''EDIT:''' Eventually decided on Ravio as a Link clone. He would fight using a wooden sword, which isn't as strong as Link's, but some of his moves have different effects- for example, his up special could use the Fire, Ice, and Sand Rods (switching through in that order), with the Fire having a fiery effect and having slightly more range, the Ice freezing opponents at high damages, and the Sand doing the most damage with no side effects. '''EDIT:''' Alongside updating Ravio's image<s>, I removed Dark Pit because he wasn't accepted very well, while Dr. Mario and Lucina were (except for the people who just all-out hate clones)</s>. '''EDIT:''' Due to Sakurai's obsession with Kid Icarus, I brought back Dark Pit. '''EDIT:''' Added Blood Falcon as a fifth clone, because I needed another slot.
*<s>Bomberman joins as a new third-party representative. He seemed like he fit the best, although he only beat out Maxwell and Professor Layton because he was the only one with 3D artwork (and I'm a stickler about things matching).</s> '''EDIT:''' Due to Rayman's feature as a trophy, I think it's likely that he'll be a third party, not Bomberman. Still want Layton and Maxwell though :(
*'''EDIT:''' Added Viridi as a Kid Icarus newcomer, since she and Hades seem to be the most requested, and also because Sakurai is obsessed with KI and will probably add someone new.
*'''EDIT:''' Added the Pikmin Captains as a Pikmin newcomer. It's kinda a tag-team with Alph and Brittany/Alph and Charlie/Brittany and Charlie (with costumes switching them out). Semi-clone of Olimar, with the second captain acting like a Luma, to an extent.
*'''EDIT:''' Added a Fire Emblem spot for a character from the next game. We've always gotten a character from a recent game. So I'm sure the pattern will keep up.
*'''EDIT:''' Added Isaac from Golden Sun. ...Mostly because there aren't any non-retro universes without representatives except Golden Sun, Starfy, and Rhythm Heaven.
*'''EDIT:''' Added Takamaru, since he's no longer Japan-exclusive.
*'''EDIT:''' A list of cut veterans: Duck Hunt<s> and R.O.B.</s>. I cut Duck Hunt because I needed an extra spot for Dixie Kong, and Duck Hunt was probably the dumbest character in the game (although I'm pretty good at him). <s>I didn't actually mean to cut ROB, but he's a very random character and I have quite a few on the roster already, so cutting two of the random veterans wasn't an entirely bad thing.</s> '''EDIT:''' Added back ROB, since he's been in two games and [[Ice Climbers|last time that happened]] it made [[User:Nutta Butta|lots of people]] upset, including people who thought they were ridiculous randoms. <s>As mentioned above, Greninja will also likely be cut to be replaced by a Generation VII or Generation VIII newcomer.</s>


So there you go. Feel free to add your own now. :)
This used to have a huge explanation but tbh it was hard to read. So... just look at the pic. I don't need to 'splain maself to da likes of you. (I'm not very street, am I?) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:06, 3 November 2015 (EST)
 
===SilvaComet's Prediction===
[[File:ROSTER ENTRY.png]]


===Rtzxy's Prediction===
===Rtzxy's Prediction===
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!colspan="7"|<span style="color:blue;">Blue text detonates a newcomer.
!colspan="7"|<span style="color:blue;">Blue text detonates a newcomer.
|-
|-
![[File:MarioSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:MarioSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mario||Luigi||Peach/Daisy||Bowser||Rosalina & Luma
|Mario||Luigi||Peach/Daisy||Bowser||Rosalina & Luma
!<span style="color:blue">Waluigi
!<span style="color:blue">Waluigi
|-
|-
![[File:WarioSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:WarioSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Wario
|Wario
![[File:YoshiSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:YoshiSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Yoshi
|Yoshi
![[File:IceClimbersSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:IceClimbersSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Ice Climbers
|Ice Climbers
|-
|-
![[File:DKSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:DKSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Donkey Kong||Diddy Kong
|Donkey Kong||Diddy Kong
!<span style="color:blue;">Dixie Kong
!<span style="color:blue;">Dixie Kong
|[[File:PunchOutSymbol.png|30px]]||Little Mac
|[[File:PunchOutSymbol.svg|30px]]||Little Mac
|-
|-
![[File:ZeldaSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Link||Zelda||Sheik||Ganondorf||Toon Link
|Link||Zelda||Sheik||Ganondorf||Toon Link
!<span style="color:blue;">Midna
!<span style="color:blue;">Midna
!<span style="color:blue;">Ghirahim
!<span style="color:blue;">Ghirahim
|-
|-
![[File:KirbySymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:KirbySymbol.svg|30px]]
|Kirby||King Dedede||Meta Knight
|Kirby||King Dedede||Meta Knight
!<span style="color:blue;">Magalor (maybe)
!<span style="color:blue;">Magalor (maybe)
![[File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Villager
|Villager
|-
|-
![[File:PokemonSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Pikachu||Jigglypuff||Lucario||Charizard||Greninja||Mewtwo
|Pikachu||Jigglypuff||Lucario||Charizard||Greninja||Mewtwo
|-
|-
![[File:KidIcarusSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Pit/Dark Pit||Palutena
|Pit/Dark Pit||Palutena
![[File:StarFoxSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Fox||Falco
|Fox||Falco
|-
|-
![[File:EarthboundSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Ness
|Ness
![[File:MetroidSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Samus||Zero Suit Samus
|Samus||Zero Suit Samus
![[File:PikminSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:PikminSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Olimar/Alph
|Olimar/Alph
|-
|-
![[File:FireEmblemSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Ike||Marth/Lucina||Robin
|Ike||Marth/Lucina||Robin
![[File:FZeroSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:FZeroSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Captain Falcon
|Captain Falcon
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|-
![[File:Game&WatchSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:Game&WatchSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mr. Game & Watch
|Mr. Game & Watch
![[File:SonicSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:SonicSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Sonic
|Sonic
!<span style="color:blue;">Tails (maybe)
!<span style="color:blue;">Tails (maybe)
![[File:MegaManSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mega Man
|Mega Man
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|-
![[File:PacManSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:PacManSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Pac-Man
|Pac-Man
![[File:XenobladeSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:XenobladeSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Shulk
|Shulk
![[File:SmashBrosSymbol.png|30px]]
![[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mii Fighters
|Mii Fighters
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|[[Shulk]]
|[[Shulk]]
|{{uv|Xenoblade}}
|{{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|style="background-color:lightblue;"|''Bravely Default'' is pretty much a Nintendo game outside of Japan, with Nintendo publishing it. She has also been confirmed to be in ''Bravely Second'', but I don't know what role she has, as I don't know Japanese.
|style="background-color:lightblue;"|''Bravely Default'' is pretty much a Nintendo game outside of Japan, with Nintendo publishing it. She has also been confirmed to be in ''Bravely Second'', but I don't know what role she has, as I don't know Japanese.
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===Laikue's prediction===
[[File:Laikue%27s_Smash_5_Roster.png]]
====Reasoning====
<small>(Blue/Green are Vet/Newcomer starters and Red/Yellow are Vet/Newcomer unlockables)
So, yeah, this list is a best case scenario. But, I'm pretty sure it can be pulled off, we got 19 newcomers in Brawl, with SIX (possibly seven) scrapped characters, 3 of which were veterans, with only one planned cut (Pichu, Young Link doesn't count) and we know that they spent way too much time on the Story mode, which is gonezo. And in Smash 4, we got 18 characters that weren't in brawl, as well as eight additional special moves for each character, all of this, and they were hampered by developing two different games one of which with much stricter limitations than the other, so I honestly believe that they will be able to add 21 characters with no cuts in the fifth game. It's optimistic, but this is my prediction, not yours. Anyway, for the character choices themselves, '''Captain Toad''' is pretty obvious since Toad has always been a big part of the Mario series, and they're really pumping him lately. '''Dixie Kong''' because Donkey Kong really deserves another rep and she's the best choice (Even if I would prefer K. Rool). '''King Hippo''', because I believe that Punch-Out is popular enough and should really have a second rep, and King Hippo is the only one that has potential to be a full character that wouldn't be a full clone, plus he's probably the most popular opponent from the games. '''Impa''', Zelda hasn't gained a rep since Melee (Toon Link is Young Link, people.) and that is not a good thing, I chose Impa over the other potential characters (Ghirahim, Midna, Skull Kid, etc.) because she has appeared in more Zelda games than any other potential character from the series, plus she has a nice potential moveset from OoT and HW. I can also see Vaati here, but I feel like Impa has a better chance. '''Ridley''', *Insert one of hundreds of pro-Ridley arguments here*. '''Wolf''', of all the cut characters who didn't come back in SSB4, he was the least just (Icies and Snake are more justified due to technical limitations and Konami's distance), so I think he is going to come back. I'm also think he was going to come back in SSB4, but was cut due to time constraints. '''Waddle Dee''', Spear Wielder (a series first) + Unique moveset (that pretty much has written itself) + popular character = Great character with high potential. '''Lucas''', I don't think any series should drop in reps. Ever. Plus his normals are a lot better than Ness's. '''Xenoblade X protagonist''', This is going to be a big money maker for Nintendo, so I don't see why they wouldn't put them in, even if we don't know much about it yet. '''Mach Rider''', Retro rep, Snake 2.0 essentially, I think she(?)'d work well. '''Ice Climbers''', cut due to limitations that won't exist if (as predicted) there is only one version of the game, so I think they'll be back. I'll finish this later. But know that the Black Knight is actually '''Shovel Knight''' and the shadowed Mii is a '''Sorcerer'''.</small>


===Squirtle's little prediction section===
===Squirtle's little prediction section===
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I'm leaving this incomplete ''just'' for a little bit, okay? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 10:55, 4 November 2014 (EST)
I'm leaving this incomplete ''just'' for a little bit, okay? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 10:55, 4 November 2014 (EST)
===TheMasterHand's Probable Prediction===
====Cut Characters====
Wii Fit Trainer
Robin
Zero Suit Samus
====Newcomers====
*Fawful
*Chesnaught
*Sceptile
*Waluigi (NOTE: Would be in the WarioWare Series)
*Daisy
*Ashley
*Kat and Anna
*Jimmy T
*Baby Mario (NOTE: Alternate costumes would be based on other Star Children:Baby Luigi, Baby Bowser, etc.)
*Kamek
*Giga Bowser (NOTE: Would be a bit smaller)
*Knuckles
*Shadow
====Clone Newcomers====
*Masked Dedede (Clone of King Dedede)
*Dark Meta Knight (Clone of Meta Knight)
*Dark Samus (Clone of Samus)
*Mr. L (Semi-Clone of Luigi)
*Metal Mario (Semi-Clone of Mario)
*Dixie Kong (Clone of Diddy Kong)
*Ms. Pac-Man (Semi-Clone of Pac-Man)
*Tails (Semi-Clone of Sonic)
====Stages====
*Battlefield
*Final Destination
*New Super Mario Bros Wii Stage
*Luigi's Dreams
*Ashley's Mansion
*Kirby Triple Deluxe Stage
*DK Country 3-D Stage
*Tip Of The IceBerg
*Pong
*Starfox 64 3-D Stage
*Pokemon Stadium X
*G&W: Ball
*Super Mario Bros 2
*Hyrule Castle 2
*Kalos Pokemon League
*Neo Bowser's Castle
*Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze Stage
====Familiar Stages====
*Kongo Jungle (SSB64)
*New Super Mario Bros U (SSBU)
*Peach's Castle (SSBM)
*F-Zero (SSBM)
*Luigi's Mansion (SSBB)
*Super Mario 3-D Land (SSB3DS)
*Metal Battlefield (SSB64)
*Pokemon Stadium (SSBM)
*Pokemon Stadium 2 (SSBB)
*Donkey Kong (SSBB)
*Hyrule Castle (SSBM
*Sector Z (SSB64)
*Dream Land (SSB64)
*Green Greens (SSBM)
===Awesomelink234's predictons===
====Cut characters====
Lucina
Duck Hunt
Meta Knight
R.O.B
Zero Suit Samus
Olimar
Dr. Mario
====Veterans====
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Rosalina
Bowser Jr.
Yoshi
Wario
Mr. Game and Watch
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Samus
Pit
Palutena
Marth
Ike
Robin
Kirby
King Dedede
Little Mac
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Charizard
Jigglypuff
Greninja
Ness
Captain Falcon
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Dark Pit
Shulk
Pac-Man
Mega Man
Sonic
====Previously brought back cut characters====
Ice Climbers
Lucas
Ivysaur
Squirtle
Mewtwo
Roy
Pichu
====Newcomers====
Prince Fluff (Kirby's Epic Yarn, 2010, Wii)
Magolor (Kirby's Return to Dream Land, 2011, Wii)
Birdo (Super Mario Bros. 2, 1988, NES)
Fawful (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, 2003, GBA)
===MarioIsTheBest predictions===
====cut characters====
Dr. Mario
Lucina
Dark Pit
everyone else returns as they were in Smash 4 (everyone else I think has a 50% chance or greater of returning, including Mewtwo)
====Newcomers and Returning cut characters====
Mewtwo
Ice Climbers
Wolf
Dixie Kong
King K Rool
Ridley
Captain Toad
(New Gen Pokemon)
Impa
Tom Nook
(new series)
(new series)
(new series)
(new series)
===1blitzer1' s predictions===
All sm4sh characters,
lucas,
Roy,
ridley,
sora,
midbus/ ice midbus,
dark bowser(browsers inside story version)
dark samus,
dewott,
grovyle,
clemont (from XY)
pokemon trainer,
ocarina zelda/ zelda & shiek combo with new arrows and a bow,
ice climbers,
spear waddle dee/ bandana dee,
zoroark,
(roll, zero, or bass)
protoman,
skyward sword wolf transformation link,
mii psychic,
Dixie kong,
crystal from starfox,
Dr. Luigi,
daisy,
captain toad,
hungry Luna(those fat, always hungry star bit guzzlers from galaxy)
cat mario(or whatever new suit they make...chicken?)
and mabye some street fighter characters if calcium wants to be in 5mash.
===ShinyRegice's predictions (1.0.0 at 12/20/2014)===
Yeah, obviously it's waaaaay too early to predict the roster for Smash 5, considering that the game probably will not be released before 2020 at the very least, we can expect a character reveal for... 2019 maybe? At this point it's pretty much impossible to make a convincing and plausible SSB5 roster without putting a lot of filler slots like "Gen VIII Pokémon", "New Starfox character", "Code Name S.T.E.A.M. rep", "Future series rep", etc. and we couldn't imagine a moveset for them anyway. Also look at the SSB4 newcomers, besides Duck Hunt and third-parties, they all have notable post-Brawl appearances.
For all those reasons, I'm not going to post a complete roster; instead I'll post an incomplete one, then I'll add more when new Nintendo games with standing out characters release.
====Veterans reflection====
Most of the characters in Smash 4 have strong staying power IMO, but a few ones could be axed if the next director thinks that they're not worth the hard work to put them into the game.
*Rosalina is a cool addition, but I fear that she eventually becomes generic spinoff filler like Daisy and Waluigi. If she becomes a recurring character in future main Mario titles or even appears in some RPGs she becomes 100 % safe though. But overall I trust her staying power, the worst I realistically imagine for her is being demoted to unlockable.
*Ike is one of the most notable lords from Fire Emblem, appearing in two titles, being the only lord in the series to not be of royal blood, and also being very popular, but he's not likely to return outside of spin-offs (SMTxFE) or like he did in Awakening as a spirit from the past (like a very high number of past FE characters did), and his "mercenary with a heavy sword" niche kinda overlaps with Shulk, who as the ambassador of the Xenoblade series is pretty safe IMO. His best chance to keep post-SSB4 relevancy is a Radiance games remake, which is something I'd LOVE to see come to real. Like Rosalina, I mostly imagine him demoted to unlockable.
*Greninja was an extremely surprising addition to the roster, and arguably the most random character choice ever in the Smash history. Even Sakurai admited it himself, he choosed it for the sake of having a gen VI Pokémon character and because it was his favourite Pokémon from this new gen. I'm worried about Greninja's staying power; while Lucario stood the test of time, proving itself as pretty much the second mascot of the series while losing only to Pikachu, I'm dubtful about Greninja keeping its reputation as one of the most popular Pokémon and becoming a staple of the series. It's the only one I'm reasonably expecting to be cut, asides from maybe clones, and third-parties to a lesser extent. However, I hope that we won't get a Pokémon newcomer in SSB5, unless it's one who REALLY stands out and has staying power as a popular mascot.
*I have no clue about the clone trinity.
*Third-party characters are an important appeal for new Smash games, and we can reasonably expect at least one third-party newcomer for Smash 4, but it would be a shame to cut any third-party character currently in Smash to add others: Sonic is one of the most well-known gaming characters with a strong history behind him as Mario's previous rival, Mega Man has a great gaming legacy related to Nintendo as well as being pretty much the single gaming character the most adaptable to the Smash format, and Pac-Man is just too much of a gaming icon. If any of these is cut for anyone else, the next director is going to be heavily backlashed. The only thing I imagine against them are potential copyright issues, but overall I expect them to return.
For veterans not playable in Smash 4, I'm not really expecting most of them to return. Young Link, Pichu, Roy and Lucas have next to no shot IMO, being too much of derivatives of other fighters and overall weak as Nintendo characters. Squirtle and Ivysaur were unique but are too weak as Nintendo characters as well. Ice Climbers were causing technical difficulties for the 3DS version (and even possibly Wii U's 8-player Smash) and were outright cut without trying too much to make them possible to handle due to their series being very weak at representing Nintendo, their gaming legacy being behind and not even close to G&W, Duck Hunt and R.O.B. The only way I'm imagining them returning is if they get a new game like how Sakurai revived Kid Icarus. Wolf is a derivative of the other Starfox characters, but I could see him returning due to Starfox getting a revival for the next year, likely with a overhauled moveset inspired from source material from the future game(s?). Snake didn't return back for both being less famous than the other third-parties in Smash and for being more of a Playstation character than a Nintendo one at this point; Sakurai himself admited that he didn't plan to make him playable again from the start. For now I'll assume that none of them will return in Smash 5.
'''tl;dr''' The only veterans I'm reasonably expecting to be cut are Greninja and members of the clone trinity, but even then I want to see if Greninja stands the test of time and doesn't become just a "flavour of the month", and I really have no clue about the clones, they could go either way?
====Newcomers reflection====
I'm going to add newcomers only if they are accurate and specific characters (and not filler slots like "Character from [insert name here] series"), if I have an accurate idea of how they could work as playable characters, and what they could represent from their series or for Nintendo as a whole.
*'''Captain Toad''' is the new rising star of the Mario universe and is IMO by far the best way to add a playable Toad in Smash. The Toad species itself always felt like an iconic filler for me, but I don't feel this for Captain Toad, as he's a character with definite role and interests, and he has great uniqueness potential with source material from his game and a weight-changing mechanic involving his backpack (like throwing items from it, but they eventually regenerate). And for the "He can't jump" argument, just either make a platform appearing under his feet to allow him to jump, or just flat-out ignore it, I don't see it as much as a big deal as Ridley's proportions. I see him as the most likely Smash 5 newcomer right now.
*I could see '''Inkling''' from Splatoon as well, but I want to see if the series becomes particularly notable, because otherwise it could end up as how Golden Sun and Dillon's Rolling Western were treated in Brawl and Smash 4 respectively. At this point it seems that the series has actual potential to end up ad the next Pikmin or Xenoblade, and there's definitely enough source material to make Inkling unique as a fighter in Smash.
====My roster (as of now)====
*Everyone from Smash 4 including Mewtwo (and besides possibly Greninja/members of the clone trinity)
*Captain Toad
*Inkling (unsure)
And for everything else... I literally have no clue. I'll wait to see who appears and stands out in future Nintendo games, or becomes newly relevant, to add more characters.
====Feedback====
Any feedback is welcome! If you have any, please post in this section. [[User:ShinyRegice|ShinyRegice]] ([[User talk:ShinyRegice|talk]]) 11:58, 20 December 2014 (EST)
===MiikaKill`s Prediction===
Not doing a chart i dont do charts its to complicated. If someone wants to transform this into a chart feel free to do so as long as you dont change my predictions. I got 60 characters (mii fighters count as 1) there at the moment and 16 of them are newcomers (new mii fighter classes not counted) and i cutted 6 characters.
====Mario====
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr, Rosalina and Luma, Yoshi, Wario, Paper Mario (New), Doctor Mario
====Donkey Kong====
Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong
====Game & Watch====
Mr. Game & Watch
====Legend of Zelda====
Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Ghirahim (New), Impa (New)
====R.O.B====
R.O.B
====Metroid====
Samus, Zero Suit Samus, Ridley (New)
====Kirby====
Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Bandana Dee (New)
====F-Zero====
Captain Falcon
====Pokemon====
Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Charizard, Mewtwo, Rotom (New), Lucario, Unknown Water-Type Pokemon from generation VII or VIII (New), Sceptile (New)
====Star Fox====
Fox, Falco, Crystal (New)
====Fire Emblem====
Marth, Chrom (New), Ike, Lucina
====Kid Icarus====
Pit, Palutena, Magnus (New)
====Earthbound====
Ness
====Xenoblade====
Shulk, Fiora (New)
====Pikmin====
Olimar
====Animal Crossing====
Villager
====Punch Out!====
Little Mac
====Mii Channel====
Mii Fighters (Brawler/Swordsman/Gunner/Wizard)
====Sonic====
Sonic
====Mega Man====
Mega Man
====Bomberman====
Bomberman (New)
====Splatoon====
Inkling (New)
====Golden Sun====
Isaac (New)
====Banjo-Kazooie====
Banjo and Kazooie (New)
===CoolTom1337's Prediction===
{|class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|<span style="color:blue;">Returning series chart (Blue = Newcomer)
|-
![[File:MarioSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mario||Luigi||Dr. Mario||Peach||Bowser||Bowser Jr.||Rosalina & Luma
!<span style="color:blue">Waluigi
|-
![[File:WarioSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Wario
![[File:YoshiSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Yoshi
![[File:DKSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Donkey Kong||Diddy Kong
|-
![[File:IceClimbersSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Ice Climbers
|[[File:PunchOutSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Little Mac
![[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Samus||Zero Suit Samus
!<span style="color:blue;">Ridley
|-
![[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Link||Zelda||Sheik||Ganondorf||Toon Link
!<span style="color:blue;">Vaati
!<span style="color:blue;">Ghirahim
|-
![[File:KirbySymbol.svg|30px]]
|Kirby||King Dedede||Meta Knight
!<span style="color:blue;">Bandana Dee
![[File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Villager
![[File:DuckHuntSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Duck Hunt Duo
|-
![[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Pikachu||Jigglypuff||Lucario||Charizard||Greninja||Mewtwo
!<span style="color:blue;">Zoroark
|-
![[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Pit||Dark Pit||Palutena
!<span style="color:blue;">Magnus
!<span style="color:blue;">Phosphora
![[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Ness||Lucas
|-
![[File:PikminSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Olimar/Alph
![[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Fox||Falco||Wolf
!<span style="color:blue;">Krystal
![[File:WiiFitSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Wii Fit Trainer
|-
![[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Ike||Marth||Roy||Lucina||Robin
!<span style="color:blue;">Ephraim
![[File:FZeroSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Captain Falcon
|-
![[File:Game&WatchSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mr. Game & Watch
![[File:XenobladeSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Shulk
!<span style="color:blue;">Dunban
![[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mii Fighters
|-
![[File:SonicSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Sonic
!<span style="color:blue;">Tails
![[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Mega Man
![[File:PacManSymbol.svg|30px]]
|Pac-Man
|-
|}
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!colspan="7"|<span style="color:blue;">New series chart
|-
!Character
!Series
|-
|Agnès Oblige
|''[[wikipedia:Bravely Default|Bravely Default]]''
|-
|Saki Amamiya
|{{uv|Sin and Punishment}}
|-
|Ray Mk. III
|{{uv|Custom Robo}}
|-
|Wonder Red
|''[[wikipedia:The Wonderful 101|The Wonderful 101]]''
|-
|Inkling
|''[[wikipedia:Splatoon|Splatoon]]''
|}
===AiNoUta's-Incredibly-Unrealistic-and-will-Probably-be-Hated-Prediction===
/= Character Costume
*= New Character
====Mario====
*Mario/Dr. Mario
*Luigi/Dr. Luigi
*Peach/Daisy
*Bowser
*Rosalina
====Legend of Zelda====
*Link/Young Link
*Zelda
*Sheik
*Ganondorf
*Vaati*
====Kirby====
*Kirby
*Meta Knight
*King Dedede
====Fire Emblem====
*Marth/Lucina
*Ike
*Robin
====Pokémon====
*Mewtwo
*Lucario
*Charizard
*Pikachu
====Star Fox====
*Fox
*Falco
*Wolf
====Kid Icarus====
*Pit
*Palutena
====Mother====
*Ness
*Lucas/Claus
====Animal Crossing====
*Villager
====F-Zero====
*Captain Falcon
*Samurai Goroh*
====Megaman====
*Megaman
====Sonic====
*Sonic
====Pikmin====
*Olimar/Alph/Louie/President
====Metroid====
*Samus
*Zero Suit Samus
====Punch-Out====
*Little Mac
====Donkey Kong====
*Donkey Kong
*Diddy Kong/Dixie Kong
====Wario====
*Wario
*Ashley*
====Xenoblade====
*Shulk
====Pac-Man====
*Pac-Man/Ms. Pac-Man
====Game & Watch====
*Mr. Game and Watch
====Yoshi====
*Yoshi/Birdo
===LittleMacmain97's completely stupid and probably insane prediction===
====Cut Veterans====
Wii Fit Trainer will be cut, along with Dr. Mario. Greninja will be cut and replaced with a rep for the next generation.
====Newcomers====
*Inkling (Splatoon!)
*Maxwell (Scribblenauts)
*Ken (Street Fighter)
*Mr. Sandman (Punch-Out!!)
*King Hippo (Punch-Out!!)
*Steve (Minecraft)
*Excitebiker (Excitebike)
*Dig Dug (Dig Dug)
*Balloon Fighter (Balloon Fight)
*Shovel Knight (Shovel Knight)
*Captain Toad (Mario)
*Shadow (Sonic)
*Knuckles (Sonic)
*Wolf (Star Fox)
*Impa (Legend of Zelda)
*Bandana Dee (Kirby)
*Squirtle (Pokemon)
*Shy Guy (Yoshi)
*Paper Mario (Mario)
*Character from Fire Emblem Fates (Fire Emblem)
*Louie (Pikmin)
*Dark Samus (Metroid)
*Young Link (Legend of Zelda)
====Notes====
*I include Punch-Out!! newcomers because I think Sakurai might, ''might'' just put em' in.
*I know that Steve is never gonna get in, but I put him down anyway.
*Squirtle will be a stand-alone character.
*Ken will be a semi-clone of Ryu. Key differences include his Shoryuken would be more powerful and his Hadoken less powerful.
*I thought about including Freddy Fazbear, but that would be to unrealistic.
*I thought about including Chuck Norris, but didn't because I would've won instantly if I had.
*All characters from Sm4sh will return, except for the three that I mentioned earlier.
*Impa will be in her Hyrule Warriors incarnation.
*And, out of curiosity, why did the guy above me cut Little Mac?
===ThePikaPlayer and his Prediction(I need Mabel for this!)===
Make a chart for this if you'd like.
*'''Still incomplete!'''
====Mario====
*Vets: Mario, '''Peach''', Bowser, Bowser Jr., '''Luigi'''.
*Newcomers: Paper Mario, '''Baby Bowser'''.
====Legend of Zelda====
*Vets: Link, '''Toon Link''', Zelda, '''Sheik''', Ganon, '''Young Link'''.
*Newcomers: '''Skull Kid'''.
====Kirby====
*Vets: Kirby, King Dedede, '''Meta Knight'''.
*Newcomers: Spear Waddle Dee, '''Sword Knight''', '''Knuckle Joe''', '''The girl from [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTcpgEmh-pA episode 60 of Kirby Right back at Ya!]'''
====Yoshi====
*Vets: Yoshi.
*Newcomers: '''Birdo'''.
====Fire Emblem====
*Vets: Marth, Ike, '''Roy''', Robin, '''Lucina'''.
*Newcomers: Chrom, '''Lyn'''.
====Kid Icarus====
*Vets: Pit, Palutena, '''Dark Pit'''.
*Newcomers: '''Viridi''', '''Hades'''.
====Super Smash Bros.====
*Vets: Mii Fighters.
*Newcomers: '''Fighting Wire Frame'''.
====Wii Fit====
*Vets: Wii Fit Trainer.
*Newcomers: Wii Balance Board.
====Xenoblade Chronicles====
*Vets: Shulk.
*Newcomers: '''Dunban''', '''Riki'''.
====Mega Man====
*Vets: '''Mega Man'''
*Newcomers: Zero, '''Bass'''.
====Metroid====
*Vets: '''Samus''', Zero Suit Samus.
*Newcomers: Dark Samus, Ridley.
====Sonic The Hedgehog====
*Vets: Sonic.
*Newcomers: They were "Too slow!"
====Earthbound====
*Vets: Ness, '''Lucas'''.
*Newcomers: Paula, '''Poo'''.
====Pac-Man====
*Vets: Pac-Man.
*Newcomers: Ms. Pac-Man.
====Wario====
*Vets: Wario.
*Newcomers: '''Ashley'''.
====Donkey Kong====
*Vets: '''Diddy''' and Donkey Kong.
*Newcomers: '''Kritter'''.
====Star Fox====
*Vets: Fox, '''Falco''', Wolf.
*Newcomers: '''Slippy''', '''Peppy'''.
====Golden Sun====
*Newcomers: '''Isaac'''.
====F-Zero====
*Vets: Captain Falcon.
*Newcomers: '''Blood Falcon'''.
====Pokemon====
*Vets: Pikachu, '''Jigglypuff''', '''Mewtwo''', '''Pichu''', Charizard, Greninja, Lucario, '''Ivysaur''', Squirtle.
*Newcomers: '''Hawlucha'''
====Game And Watch====
*Vets: Mr. Game and Watch.
*Newcomers: '''Spitball Sparky'''.
====Pikmin====
*Vets: Olimar.
*Newcomers: '''Louie'''.
====Punch-Out====
*Vets: Little Mac.
*Newcomers: '''Glass Joe'''.
====Animal Crossing====
*Vets: Villager.
*Newcomers: '''K.K. Slider'''.
====Nintendogs====
*Newcomers: Nintendog.
====Notes====
*Bold depicts unlockable characters.
*Squirtle and Ivysaur will be standalone characters.
*Hawlucha was inspired by the Flying Man.
*Spitball Sparky was a random notion, along with Glass Joe, Louie, Slippy, and Peppy.
*Pichu deserves to be in Smash 4 due to my liking of Pikachu.
*Wii Balance Board would be the funniest of the lot.
*Mewtwo, Pichu, Ivysaur, Roy, and Wolf will return.
*Rosalina & Luma and Dr. Mario will not come back.
*Baby Bowser is not to be confused with Bowser Jr.
*Nintendog and Ridley have to be sized down to make this odd list.
===Aidanzapunk's Predictions (Version 2)===
Since a lot has changed in terms of my opinions towards Smash 4 and Smash 4 itself, I think I've got some newer ideas.
====Characters====
=====Cut Characters=====
*'''Wii Fit Trainer''': This one was an out-of-left-field pick.
*'''Villager''': See above.
=====Newcomers=====
*'''Professor Layton''': This guy needs to be in. You could do so much with him. And he's had a lot of history with Nintendo.
*'''Shadow the Hedgehog''': For the record, he would NOT be a Sonic clone.
*'''Isaac''': Despite my opinions towards him, he's very popular.
*'''Inkling''': Because why the hell not.
*'''Sora''': I myself haven't played ''Kingdom Hearts'', but I do enjoy characters from series I'm not familiar with.
*'''Shovel Knight''': I think it's kinda obvious at this point.
<nowiki>*</nowiki>insert obligatory King K. Rool vote here*
=====Previously Cut Veterans=====
*'''Ice Climbers''': I know, Sakurai cut them because they had low priority over the rest of the cast, but still.
*'''Snake''': I swear, if he doesn't come back as DLC, then he should come back in Smash 5.
*'''Wolf''': Honestly, he's less of a clone of Fox than Luigi is of Mario. And he's very popular.
====New stages====
*'''[http://layton.wikia.com/wiki/Monte_d%27Or Monte d'Or]''': The sort of hub world from ''Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask''. ''Miracle Mask'' was my first ''Layton'' game, and if Layton got in, this would have to be his stage.
*'''[http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Starlight_Carnival Starlight Carnival]''': The third world from ''Sonic Colors''. ''Colors'' is my favorite ''Sonic'' game, and you could totally make a moving stage out of this.
[[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 16:42, 9 November 2015 (EST)
===<big>''BeepYou's roster predictions''</big>===
I'm doing this for fun, it's just the roster I would want in the next game, not trying to really predict and win.
<small>''KEEP IN MIND CUSTOMS ARE REMOVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MIIS''</small>
====Returning veterans====
====={{uv|Mario}}=====
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mario'''
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dr. Mario''': Unlockable.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Luigi''': Unlockable.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Peach'''
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bowser''': More texture on his skin and scales, but otherwise still cartoonish.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bowser Jr.''': Unlockable.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rosalina & Luma''': Heavily nerfed so that she is much harder to use, but not enough so that she is still viable.
====={{uv|Yoshi}}=====
*[[File:YoshiSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Yoshi'''
====={{uv|Wario}}=====
*[[File:WarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wario'''
====={{uv|Donkey Kong}}=====
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Donkey Kong'''
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Diddy Kong''': Immensely nerfed.
====={{uv|Game & Watch}}=====
*[[File:Game&WatchSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mr. Game & Watch''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Punch-Out!!}}=====
*[[File:PunchOutSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Little Mac'''
====={{uv|Metroid}}=====
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Samus'''
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zero Suit Samus''': Less stern expression in her Screen KO.
====={{uv|F-Zero}}=====
*[[File:FZeroSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Captain Falcon'''
====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Link''': Using his ''Hyrule Warriors'' design.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Toon Link''': Unlockable.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zelda'''
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sheik''': Using her ''Hyrule Warriors'' design. Nerfed.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ganondorf''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pit'''
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dark Pit''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Fire Emblem}}=====
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Marth'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucina''': Unlockable.
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Roy''': Unlockable.
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ike'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Robin'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Corrin'''
====={{uv|Duck Hunt}}=====
*[[File:DuckHuntSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Duck Hunt''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Kirby}}=====
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Kirby'''
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''King Dedede'''
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Meta Knight''': Using his ''Kirby: Right Back At Ya!'' design
====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Fox'''
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Falco''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pikachu'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Jigglypuff''': Unlockable.
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucario'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Charizard'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Greninja'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mewtwo''': Unlockable. And heavily buffed.
====={{uv|R.O.B.}}=====
*[[File:ROBSymbol.svg|20px]] '''R.O.B.''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|EarthBound}}=====
*[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ness'''
*[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucas'''
====={{uv|Animal Crossing}}=====
*[[File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Villager'''
====={{uv|Pikmin}}=====
*[[File:PikminSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Alph''': Olimar gets cut but Alph is his own character now.
====={{uv|Wii Fit}}=====
*[[File:WiiFitSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wii Fit Trainer'''
====={{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}}=====
*[[File:XenobladeSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Shulk''': More lively and smiling in his taunts (except down taunt) and victory poses. Unlockable.
====={{uv|Sonic}}=====
*[[File:SonicSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sonic''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Mega Man}}=====
*[[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mega Man''': He has some voice clips from ''Mega Man: Powered Up'' and is voiced by the same VA, Cole Howard. Blast KO sound changed to the "life lost" sound from Mega Man 3 onward.
====={{uv|Street Fighter}}=====
*[[File:StreetFighterSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ryu''': He now smiles lightly in his "Your range is one fist short" victory pose.
====={{uv|Pac-Man}}=====
*[[File:PacManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pac-Man''': Using his ''Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures'' design (sorry [[Masahiro Sakurai|Massive Hero Soccer Guy]]). His Star KO sound is now the "life lost" sound from the original ''Pac-Man'' (which only appears in StreetSmash). Still no voice.
====={{uv|Final Fantasy}}=====
*[[File:FinalFantasySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Cloud''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Bayonetta}}=====
*[[File:BayonettaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bayonetta''': It depends: if she is way too OP in ''SSB4'', then she gets nerfed depending on the OP level.
=====''Special characters''=====
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Brawler'''
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Swordfighter'''
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Gunner'''
====Previously cut veterans====
====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wolf''': Because [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]]. Unlockable.
====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pichu''': Heavily buffed tho. Still recoil damage but less than before, and more power than Pikachu. Unlockable.
====={{uv|Ice Climber}}=====
*[[File:IceClimbersSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ice Climbers'''
====={{uv|Metal Gear}}=====
*[[File:MetalGearSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Snake''': Unlockable.
====Newcomers====
====={{uv|Donkey Kong}}=====
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dixie Kong''': Semi-clone of Diddy but she doesn't have the [[Banana Peel]] as her down special, it gets replaced by a different move that I'm too lazy to think of. Weaker than Diddy, but faster mobility. Almost the same frame data. Unlockable.
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''King K. Rool''': Yep.
====={{uv|Metroid}}=====
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ridley''': Shrunken down, semi-clone of Charizard as it can jump three times, fly and glide, and has some attacks taken from him. However, it is almost as heavy as DK. Poor frame data to compensate, though only to the extent of Charizard. Slightly less damaging attacks and some of them are different so it can be considered a semi-clone.
====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ghirahim'''
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ruto'''
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Viridi''': A deity made it into Smash Bros. Now a smaller deity does as well, but with faster moves (different ones that don't make her a clone of Palutena). Unlockable.
====={{uv|Kirby}}=====
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bandanda Waddle Dee'''
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Prince Fluff''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Krystal''': Moveset inspired from {{SSB4|Palutena}} in some regards, but faster in all aspects.
====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Igglybuff''': Maybe I lost my mind, but I want a more mobile but frailer and slightly weaker clone of Jiggs. Unlockable.
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sceptile''': He deserves to be in if we're not getting Ivysaur. Unlockable.
====={{uv|Sonic}}=====
*[[File:SonicSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Tails''': Unlockable. Why not? :]
====={{uv|Mega Man}}=====
*[[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|20px]]  '''Proto Man''': Unlockable. Voiced by his ''Mega Man: Powered Up'' VA, Jonathan Love. A frailer but more mobile semi-clone of Mega Man that uses his mechanics from Mega Man 9 and 10, with some different attcks:
**Neutral attack/Forward tilt/Neutral aerial: Proto Buster - Only fires twice instead of once, slightly longer range.
**Up tilt: Same as Mii Gunner
**Down tilt: Charge Kick - More powerful but laggier.
**Up smash: Laser Trident
**Down smash: Chill Spike - [[Freezing|Ice]] effect instead of [[flame]], faster with slightly less power.
**Forward aerial: Triple Blade - Slashes three times instead of once, [[electric]] effect instead of flame, sword glows green (like [[Zero (Mega Man)|Zero]]'s Z-Saber) then fades to purple after attacking (like the original Triple Blade). More similar to Meta Knight's forward aerial.
**Up aerial: Tornado Blow - Three tornadoes instead of one, giving it more horizontal range, but it has less vertical range and as a result inflicts less damage with knockback compensated.
**Grab aerial/Grab: Thunder Claw - Similar to Samus' Grapple Beam.
**Neutral special: Shadow Blade - Due to the game having no customs, Proto Man receives Mega Man's custom move as a special of his own.
**Side special: Ice Slasher - Same as neutral special.
**Up special: Tornado Hold - Same as previous specials.
**Down special: Jewel Sattelite - Same function as Skull Barrier but with a x1.4 multiplier and inflicts 2% damage for each jewel, like Mega Man's Leaf Shield.
**Final Smash: Proto Zero Attack - He teams up with Zero and they attack the opponent. Similar startup as [[Pair Up]], similar cutscene as [[Chain Attack]].
=====''Battletoads''=====
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rash''': Doesn't have a voice, but his Star KO sound is that of a low-pitched croak.
=====''Rayman''=====
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rayman''': Unlockable.
====DLC newcomers====
====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zant'''
=====''Kingdom Hearts''=====
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sora'''
=====''Special characters''=====
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Wizard'''
====Cut characters that later return as DLC veterans====
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Palutena''': Autoreticle and Reflect Barrier get replaced by Explosive Flame and Super Speed respectively. She gets catastrophically buffed in frame data, aerial mobility and damage, so her frame data is much more balanced (but not to Mario or Sheik levels), and her damage output is as high as {{SSB4|Luigi}}'s. She originally gets cut due to the game's abscence of custom moves for other characters that aren't Miis. (yep, just because of that reason). Originally only mentioned in her trophy.
I would put an image of a roster but the roster maker won't open for me. So that's it then. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black"> '''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 14:58, 19 December 2015 (EST)
===Nintenzilla's Predictions===
Basically, I predict the roster to look something like this,
http://i.imgur.com/g0Re0Z4.png
====Cut Characters====
Due to their overall controversy, Dark Pit and Lucina are made into costumes, while Dr. Mario is kept for being the clone with the strongest following (Ironically).
Feedback is also welcome.
[[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 13:38, 12 January 2016 (EST)
===The Luigi Master's Predictions===
I might make a fancy chart or something at some point, but for now I'll just keep it simple
====Veterans====
All characters in SSB4, including the DLC characters, return, except for the following:
*Dr. Mario (Who is now an Alt Costume for Mario)
*Lucina (Who is now an Alt Costume for Marth)
*Dark Pit (Who is now an Alt Costume for Pit)
====Returning From Melee or Brawl====
The following characters have returned after being cut from Brawl
*Wolf (Who is heavier and stronger, and, other than his Blaster, has different specials)
*Ice Climbers (Who now appear as 2 characters but function as 1, kind of like Duck Hunt. They still hit separately, however, so you have to make sure to line them up correctly for massive damage)
*Snake (Who plays same, but his inclusion is dependent solely upon Konami's status as a company)
====Newcomers====
*Captain Toad (We need some kind of Toad character to finish the Big 4 from SSB2, and Captain Toad would be pretty unique: a small character that has difficulty jumping, but packs a huge punch)
*Waluigi (Actually, I think the fact that he's spin-off exclusive can work to his advantage: he could integrate different things from various Mario spin-offs to have a Villager-style, wacky, unorthodox moveset)
*King K. Rool (...meh, I don't really get the hype for this guy. I only added him on here because he's suddenly really popular)
*Impa (Pretty much the last major Zelda character not already in the game)
*Lana (She may have been in 1 spin-off title, but I think a true Mage-type character would be pretty sweet)
*Gardevoir (Probably the most popular Gen 3 Pokemon, and her Fairy typing could make for an interesting psychic/magic based moveset)
*(Some Pokemon from Gen 7 or 8. As for which one...well, we'll find out when they come)
*Ridley (Shrunk down, but still the largest character in the game. He would have amazing reach, power, movement, and air speed, but garbage frame data, and obviously a ridiculously large hitbox)
*Sylux (I don't know too much about this guy, but he's slated to have some kind of major role in a future Metroid game, so he could join in if he's a big enough deal)
*Viridi (We NEED a plant/grass-based character, and Viridi would be perfect for the role)
*(New Fire Emblem character. Like Pokemon, this is one we'll just have to wait and see for)
*Bandana Dee (Round out the Return to Dreamland quartet. He probably wouldn't be super unique moveset-wise, but still, no other character wields a spear)
*Elma (with Xenoblade Chronicles X seemingly being a huge hit, I don't think it's too much of a stretch)
*Balloon Fighter (A classic along the lines of Duck Hunt and R.O.B., he would be a pretty hilarious inclusion)
*Isaac (It's Golden Sun's time to shine! I think, like Corrin, he could use his sword for basic attacks, and use his earth-bending skills for his more powerful attacks)
*Sami (I think she best represents the universe, more so than Andy. Plus, if Snake is a no-go, she could just adopt his moveset to cover the loss)
*Marshal (despite being a pretty niche character, even for Smash standards, a Rhythm-based fighter could be pretty interesting)
*Inkling (Splatoon is a HUGE hit, plus their Ink gimmick could translate will into Smash: every move uses ink, and you refill by turning into a squid with Down B. A character that is strong, but has to keep periodically charging to stay that way, would pretty awesome)
And last but not least...
*Captain N (I know, he's technically a TV Show character, but he's still Nintendo, and I think he could do an amazing job representing the various Nintendo console/controllers/accessories over the years in his moves. Besides, R.O.B. is a toy and Mr. G&W isn't even really a character. It's not TOO farfetched.    ...OK, yeah, it's pretty farfetched, but a man can dream!)
===[[User:BaconMaster331|BaconMaster331]]'s predictions===
This is essentially a hopeful guy's wishlist, isn't it?
By the by, characters in '''bold''' are most likely gonna be DLC.
====Veterans from SSB4====
*Mario
*Luigi
*Peach
*Bowser
*Rosalina and Luma
*Bowser Jr.
*Yoshi
*Donkey Kong
*Diddy Kong
*Link (a la Zelda Wii U)
*Zelda (a la Zelda Wii U)
*Sheik
*Ganondorf
*Toon Link
*Samus
*Zero Suit Samus
*Kirby
*Meta Knight
*King Dedede
*Fox
*Falco
*Pikachu
*Jigglypuff
*Mewtwo
*Charizard
*Lucario
*'''Greninja'''
*Captain Falcon
*Ness
*'''Lucas'''
*Marth
*'''Roy'''
*Robin
*'''Lucina'''
*Corrin
*Ike
*Mr. Game and Watch
*Pit
*Palutena
*Wario
*Olimar
*R.O.B.
*Villager
*Little Mac
*Wii Fit Trainer
*Shulk
*Duck Hunt
*Mii Fighters
*Sonic
*Mega Man
*Pac-Man
*'''Ryu'''
*'''Cloud'''
*'''Bayonetta'''
====SSBB Veterans====
*'''Wolf'''
*Squirtle
*Ice Climber ([[Sopo]] all the way!)
====Newcomers====
Ah, yes, what we've all been waiting for...
Lesser-known characters get a link to their page.
*Paper Mario
*Waluigi (I don't want him, but I'm sure he's coming)
*Dixie Kong
*Zelda Rep (probably Ghirahim, Skull Kid or Deku Link)
*Bandana Dee
*Prince Fluff
*Gen 7/8 Pokemon (C'mon, we all know it's true...0
*[[Jeff]]
*Lyn (unless there's a new Fire Emblem!)
*Isaac
*[[Saki]]
*Inkling
*Takamaru
*Chibi-Robo
*Nester
*'''Bomberman'''
*'''[[Zero (Mega Man)|Zero]]'''
====Cut Characters====
*Dr. Mario (now an alt. for Mario)
*Dark Pit (for obvious reasons)
Well, that's all I've got for now (as of 1/16/16)
BaconMaster out!
===Exploudit's Prediction===
[http://imgur.com/vQ7SdNO Click here for the roster chart]
Blue Outline - Veteran
Red Outline - Unlockable Veteran
Green Outline - Newcomer
Yellow Outline - Unlockable Newcomer
====Cuts from Smash 4====
*Wii Fit Trainer
*Dr. Mario (now as a Mario alternate)
*Dark Pit (now as a Pit alternate)
*Lucina (now as a Marth alternate)
====Characters for Smash 5====
*Mario
*Luigi (Now faster than Mario but lighter, also jumps a little bit higher. Has a more Luigi's Mansion inspired moveset, raher tha beeing a Mario semi-clone)
*Peach (Slightly buffed from smash 4)
*Daisy (As a Peach Semi-Clone)
*Rosalina & Luma
*Yoshi
*Captain Toad (Unique in the sense that he has two movesets, one in which he is with his backpack, thus he is extremely heavy and can't jump and the other in wich he is very light and agile, without his backpack, but has trouble killing)
*Baby Mario & Baby Luigi (Both controlled by the player, when on of the bros. gets KOed it only respawns when the other dies, Unlike Brawl's Ice Climbers, tere is no "leader")
*Bowser (Slightly buffed)
*Bowser jr. (Significantly buffed)
*Kamek
*King Boo (Unique beacause of his moveset consisting of deploying Boos at the cost of his weight and size. Boos movement and attacks are commanded by King Boo, like how Rosalina controls Luma. He can reabsorb Boos but increasing his percentage as much as the percentage the Boo he absorbed had, Boos alone are extremely light (15 weight). King Boo's smash relies on Luigi's mansion's series ghosts. And are stronger if there are less Boos deployed. Whn boos are KOed they never respwn, rather, King Boo deos at his full weight. His Side Special deploys a Boo in his front and his Down Special recalls the Boo that is closer. His up special deals no damage and makes him vanish and reappear in the closest ledge, when reappears, he pushes opponents away but deals no damage. His neutral special triggers all Boos to attack by vanishing and reappiring near the opponent, acting as a KO move)
*Wario (Significanly buffed)
*Waluigi (With a brand new moveset Waluigi is a quick but light newcomer)
*Nabbit (Very fast but also really light. Fits the hit and run archetype)
*Donkey Kong (Signifanctly buffed)
*Diddy Kong
*Dixie Kong (Using her hair and guitar to attack, she provides an amazing recovery with her hair and an absurd ranged command grab)
*Cranky Kong (A DK semi-clone, is even slower but deals more damage. Has a better recovery using cannons and he throws barrels as a projectile that can break through reflectors, regardless of being slow)
*Funky Kong (Another DK semi-clone, using some different moves)
*King K. Rool (Slow and heavy, but still a threat)
*Fox
*Falco (Slighly buffed)
*Wolf (Returns as a veteran from Brawl and slighlty buffed)
*Krystal
*Kirby (Slightly buffed)
*King Dedede (Significantly buffed)
*Meta Knight
*Waddle Dee
*Little Mac
*Link (Slightly buffed)
*Toon Link (Now with a more unique moveset, rather than being a semi-clone of Link)
*Midna & Wolf Link (Both characters share a hurtbox, and are really fast)
*Ravio (Uses the items he sells to Link in his arsennal and controls Speerow the same way Rosalina controls Luma. Instead of having a regular shield, he merge into a painting and can stay there until a purple bar wears out, making him shield stunned. When rolling he walks from a painting to another, even though it is slow the move is very safe, when airdodging the also enters the painting)
*Zelda (Heavily buffed)
*Sheik (Slightly nerfed)
*Toon Zelda (She acts as a Zelda semi-clone, having little differences on her moveset)
*Tetra
*Ganondorf
*Toon Ganondorf (Ganondorf's semi-clone)
*Vaati
*Skull Kid
*Samus (Slightly buffed)
*Dark Samus (Has a very unique moveset, but is as slow as Samus)
*Zero Suit Samus (Slightly nerfed)
*Pit (Slightly buffed)
*Palutena (Significantly buffed)
*Viridi
*Marth
*Ike (Slightly buffed)
*Corrin (Slightly buffed)
*Robin (Slightly buffed)
*Roy
*Ness
*Lucas (Significantly buffed)
*Captain Falcon (Slightly buffed)
*Ice Climbers (veterans from Brawl, slightly nerfed, now working similarly to Baby Mario and Luigi, where both are controled by the player)
*Duck Hunt
*Mr. Game and Watch
*Excitebiker
*Pikachu
*Charizard (Heavily buffed)
*Greninja (Heavily nerfed... jk, he is buffed SIGNIFICANTLY)
*Sceptile
*Gardevoir
*Lucario
*Zoroark
*Plusle & Minun (work similarly to the baby bros., but one cannot recover without the other)
*Machamp
*Gengar
*Jigglypuff (Slightly buffed)
*Scizor
*Hawlucha
*Floette-Eternal
*Mewtwo (Heavily buffed)
*Villager (Can be customized like the Miis)
*Isabelle
*Olimar
*Chorus Kids (Share a hurtbox)
*Inkling (Can be customized like the Miis)
*R.O.B. (Significantly buffed)
*Sonic (SLightly nerfed)
*Mega Man
*Pac-Man
*Rayman
*Ryu
*Cloud
*Bayonetta (Significantly nerfed [Diddy style])
*Miis (Swordfighter and gunner are slightly buffed)
===Tadd's predictions===
Unlike most other rosters on here, I base my roster on probability. That is, is it likely they will get in? I am NOT basing this on my personal opinions, nor am i trying to cram as many characters as possible into the game.
Arranged by series. Newcomers in bold. Third party characters have their own section
====Mario Universe====
*Mario
*Luigi
*Peach
*Bowser
*Rosalina and Luma
*Bowser Jr.
*'''Paper Mario''' (I count him as part of the Mario series, deal with it)
====Yoshi Universe====
*Yoshi
*'''Kamek'''
====Wario Universe====
*Wario
*'''Waluigi'''
====Donkey Kong Universe====
*Donkey Kong
*Diddy Kong
*'''King K. Rool'''
====Zelda Universe====
*Link
*Zelda
*Sheik
*Ganondorf
*'''Tetra'''
====Pokemon Universe====
*Pikachu
*Jigglypuff
*Mewtwo
*Lucario
*Charizard
*Greninja
*'''Sceptile'''
====Metroid Universe====
*Samus
*Zero Suit Samus
====Star Fox Universe====
*Fox
*Falco
*'''Krystal'''
====Kirby Universe====
*Kirby
*King DeDeDe
*Meta Knight
*'''Waddle Dee''' (bandana)
====F-Zero Universe====
*Captain Falcon
====Mother Universe====
*Ness
*Lucas
*'''Porky/Pokey'''
====Fire Emblem Universe====
*Marth
*Roy
*Ike
*Robin
*Corrin
====Ice Climber Universe====
*Ice Climbers
====Game and Watch Universe====
*Mr. Game & Watch
====Pikmin Universe====
*Olimar
====Kid Icarus Universe====
*Pit
*Palutena
====R.O.B. Universe====
*R.O.B.
====Animal Crossing Universe====
*Villager
====Punch-Out!! Universe====
*Little Mac
====Wii Fit Universe====
*Wii Fit Trainer
====Duck Hunt Universe====
*Duck Hunt
====Xenoblade Universe====
*Shulk
====Splatoon Universe====
*'''Inkling'''
====Golden Sun Universe====
*'''Isaac'''
====Rhythm Heaven Universe====
*'''Chorus Kids'''
====Chibi Robo Series====
*'''Chibi Robo'''
====Third Party Characters====
*Sonic
*'''Knuckles'''
*Mega Man
*Pac-Man
*Ryu
*Cloud
*Bayonetta
*'''Banjo and Kazooie'''
*'''Ray Man'''
*'''Bomberman'''
*'''Shovel Knight'''
*'''Scorpion'''
====Mii Fighters====
*Mii Swordsman
*Mii Brawler
*Mii Gunner
*'''Mii Mage'''
*'''Mii Athlete'''
====Additional Information/speculation====
Given the developers have more time, I feel Toon Link and Dr. Mario will be the first to be added, followed by new clones or semi-clones, such as '''Daisy'''. Given the developers have less time, I feel Roy will be first to be cut, followed by Lucas.
If they do have DLC and Roy and Lucas were cut, they will be the first veterans with a shot, followed by Wolf, Squirtle and Ivysaur. Newcomers for DLC are most likely to be 3rd party that couldn't be added through normal means, as with Smash 4 DLC
It is possible that Sheik's moveset will instead go to '''Impa''' in favor of series relevance, though with Sheik being a fan favorite, it's not likely.
Palutena may be cut due to a variety of factors, some of which include lack of games in the series, lack of popularity, and whether or not they keep custom moves. For the most part, I kept her due to being a unique moveset
It is possible that a new '''Fire Emblem lord''' may be added in favor of Robin and/or Corrin, but it's hard to predict at this point in time
In addition, I leave one newcomer off the list. This is most likely a retro/wtf character, but as Sakurai is a man that is anything but predictable, there is no way to pinpoint it exactly. Possibilities include:
*'''Exitebiker'''
*'''Takamaru'''
*'''Reckless Wiimote guy'''
*'''Jibanyan'''
*'''Ray MKIII'''
*'''Lana''' (HW)
*An indie third-party character, such as '''Frisk''' or '''Shantae'''
*A character created specifically for this series. As an example, I am using '''Master Hand Jr.'''
(I am not saying all of these characters may get in, probably only one)
This will bring my total character count from between 72 and 80 characters in the base game (counting all mii fighters separately).  With that, I bid you good day, sirs.
-Tadd (added Feb 23, 2016)
====Saki's predictions====
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!Character
!Series
!Past Entries
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|[[Mario]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Luigi]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Peach]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Bowser]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Bowser Jr.]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Rosalina]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Dr. Mario]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Yoshi]]
|{{uv|Yoshi}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Wario]]
|{{uv|Wario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Donkey Kong]]
|{{uv|Donkey Kong}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Diddy Kong]]
|{{uv|Donkey Kong}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[King K. Rool]]
|{{uv|Donkey Kong}}
|-
|[[Mr. Game & Watch]]
|{{uv|Game & Watch}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Little Mac]]
|{{uv|Punch-Out!!}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Link]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Zelda/Sheik]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Ganondorf]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Toon Link]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Young Link]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}
|-
|[[Samus]]
|{{uv|Metroid}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Zero Suit Samus]]
|{{uv|Metroid}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Pit]]
|{{uv|Kid Icarus}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Palutena]]
|{{uv|Kid Icarus}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Dark Pit]]
|{{uv|Kid Icarus}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Marth]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Ike]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Roy]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Robin]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Corrin]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Anna]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|-
|[[Duck Hunt]]
|{{uv|Duck Hunt}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Kirby]]
|{{uv|Kirby}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Meta Knight]]
|{{uv|Kirby}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[King Dedede]]
|{{uv|Kirby}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Fox]]
|{{uv|Star Fox}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Falco]]
|{{uv|Star Fox}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Wolf]]
|{{uv|Star Fox}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}
|-
|[[Pikachu]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Charizard]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Lucario]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Mewtwo]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Jigglypuff]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Greninja]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[R.O.B]]
|{{uv|R.O.B.}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Ice Climbers]]
|{{uv|Ice Climber}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}
|-
|[[Ness]]
|{{uv|EarthBound}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Lucas]]
|{{uv|EarthBound}}
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|[[Captain Falcon]]
|{{uv|F-Zero}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Villager]]
|{{uv|Animal Crossing}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Olimar]]
|{{uv|Pikmin}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Alexandra Roivas]]
|{{s|wikipedia|Eternal Darkness}}
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|[[Wii Fit Trainer]]
|{{uv|Wii Fit}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Ricky Winterborn]]
|{{s|wikipedia|1080° Snowboarding}}
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|[[Shulk]]
|{{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Isaac]]
|{{uv|Golden Sun}}
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|[[Saki Amamiya]]
|{{uv|Sin and Punishment}}
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|[[Takamaru]]
|{{uv|The Mysterious Murasame Castle}}
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|[[Inkling]]
|[[wikipedia:Splatoon|Splatoon]]
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|[[Spring Man]]
|{{s|wikipedia|ARMS}}
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|[[Pac-Man]]
|{{uv|Pac-Man}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Kazuya Mishima]]
|{{s|wikipedia|Tekken}}
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|[[Ryu]]
|{{uv|Street Fighter}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Mega Man]]
|{{uv|Mega Man}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Crash Bandicoot]]
|{{s|wikipedia|Crash Bandicoot}}
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|[[Snake]]
|{{uv|Metal Gear}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}
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|[[Sonic]]
|{{uv|Sonic the Hedgehog}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Bayonetta]]
|{{uv|Bayonetta}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Travis Touchdown]]
|{{s|wikipedia|No More Heroes}}
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|[[Shovel Knight]]
|[[wikipedia:Shovel Knight|Shovel Knight]]
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|[[Mii Brawler]]
|[[wikipedia:Mii|Mii Channel]]
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Mii Swordfighter]]
|[[wikipedia:Mii|Mii Channel]]
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Mii Gunner]]
|[[wikipedia:Mii|Mii Channel]]
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
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|[[Mii Mage]]
|[[wikipedia:Mii|Mii Channel]]
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|[[Mii Sports Player]]
|[[wikipedia:Mii|Mii Channel]]
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====Reasoning====
So why did I cut Lucina? Unlike every other clone, she is a clone of a clone (minus Wolf and Young Link, but I'd revamp them and Dark Pit) and we already have representation of her game in Robin. I put in K.rool due to fan support, Isaac due to the same and my support, Saki because he's supposedly popular in Japan and he's been my #1 wish since Brawl, Ricky because he can be the joke character, Alexandra because she'd be unique I guess? I don't know, I'd like to see it though. Takamaru because he was supposed to be in Smash 4, Inklings because Splatoon is popular, Spring Man to support ARMS and he's the face of it, Kazuya because Namco needs a second rep and Street Fighter X Tekken 2 would be cool (assuming Tekken X Street Fighter doesn't release before this), Crash because he's a popular platforming icon and was on Nintendo post original trilogy, Travis because he's getting a new Switch game and Ubisoft needs a rep and a wrestler with a beam katana is cool, Shovel Knight because he's the most popular indie choice with his own Amiibo, and the 2 Mii types because they are popular ideas. Anna because Fire Emblem doesn't need a character except the one who's been there since Gaiden. Anna is DLC.
====Nyargle's prediction====
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Why not? If TNO decides it's too late, I'll take the minus one.
The Pokemon is Decidueye, the Fire Emblem character is '''specifically''' the main protagonist of Fire Emblem Switch (if this isn't specific enough, I'll swap it out), and the newcomer is Face Raider. Have a few notes:
*Bowser Jr. has circumstances close enough to characters like Mewtwo post-Melee and Wolf for me to consider him an unsafe bet.
*Corrin will no longer have the appeal of being the newest FE lord.
*Face Raider is actually among the most likely newcomers IMO because it's the most Sakurai pick possible (totally random but actually makes some sense given the game's proliferation; think Wii Fit Trainer). Plus, I came up with a moveset on my Smash 5 ideas page, so devs paid to do it could come up with one, too.
*Minecraft has the sales, is as iconic a series as Mega Man and maybe even Sonic at this point, represents the historic indie movement, and has Nintendo editions that are popular in Japan.
*Crash had a game on the GameCube, so a Nintendo release was never a hurdle.
*Sylux apparently has more importance now, avoids the "three Samuses" issue, and isn't too big according to Sakurai. The ideal Metroid rep.
*Isabelle is everywhere and unarguably the most popular Animal Crossing character now.
*The only retro candidate that might be surprising at this point to fans is a Famicom Fairytales character. I like these ones.
*If Inklings weren't added as DLC, Spring Man won't be playable in the base game.
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Latest revision as of 00:01, April 27, 2021

Well, we know the entire roster for Smash 4, so predictions for that are pointless- and it's never too early, right? :P

You can make edits to your prediction until the first Smash 5 character is confirmed (which may be a very long time, obviously). This should help pass the time though!

You can mostly use anything- a table, an image, or even just a dotted list. If you choose to use an image, make it a clear image so that it's easy to tell which character is which, and also include the names of each character somewhere on the roster.

Make a header with your username when you add your prediction, and... well, have fun! :P

RulesEdit

  1. There can be no more than 80 characters on your roster.
    • If you wish to bring back transformations, they only count as one character.
  2. Characters must be featured mainly in video games. This does not mean video games based off of TV or movies, rather TV or movies based off of video games. (So Ash Ketchum would be acceptable, but Mickey Mouse would not.)
  3. No more than 10 veterans may be cut.
    • Veterans that were cut in a previous game (such as Wolf or Snake) or DLC veterans (such as Mewtwo or Cloud) do not count as a cut character.
  4. Be creative and have fun!

Scoring SystemEdit

  • Correct Newcomer Prediction - 10 points. A correct newcomer prediction is when a newcomer on your prediction roster is confirmed to be in the game. Pretty straightforward.
  • Correct Veteran Prediction - 5 points. Like the above, but with veterans. Since it's pretty easy to predict this (I'm pretty sure Mario will return), it doesn't have as high a score as a correct newcomer prediction.
  • Semi-Correct Prediction - 3 points. This is when you predict a transformation character or a team character, but only one of them appear. (i.e. you predict Zelda/Sheik, but only Sheik is confirmed). You get the three points for each character (meaning if you predict Pokemon Trainer with Greninja, Chespin, and Braixen and they all appear separately, you get 9 points.) However, there is no penalty if only part of the character is confirmed (only Greninja appears, not Chespin and Braixen), you just only get 3 points. This same rule applies to if you predict two characters separately but they are confirmed as transformations or a team, even if you only guessed one of the characters. If you predict a team character and only one of them appears with the other as a costume (like Popo with Nana as a costume instead of Popo & Nana as the Ice Climbers), you do not get 6 points, only 3. If you guess a character as a costume but they are confirmed as a separate character (i.e. Daisy as a Peach costume), you do not get any bonus points and are charged with a missing prediction.
  • Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
  • Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.
  • Incomplete Roster - Minus 1 point. If the first character is confirmed for Sma5h and you have not completed your roster (and it contains things like "Gen 7/8 Pokemon", "New Series Characters", or "WIP"), you will automatically lose 1 point. Any vague predictions ("Gen 7/8 Pokemon", "New Series Character") have no deductions, but you will get a Missing Prediction deduction if your roster was not finished.

When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.

Note that this competition is only for characters. Predictions on stages, alternate costumes, items, etc. are not considered part of the official competition, and therefore do not apply to your score.

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Roster PredictionsEdit

Nutta's PredictionEdit

 

This used to have a huge explanation but tbh it was hard to read. So... just look at the pic. I don't need to 'splain maself to da likes of you. (I'm not very street, am I?) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:06, 3 November 2015 (EST)

SilvaComet's PredictionEdit

 

Rtzxy's PredictionEdit

Characters from Returning SeriesEdit

Blue text detonates a newcomer.
  Mario Luigi Peach/Daisy Bowser Rosalina & Luma Waluigi
  Wario   Yoshi   Ice Climbers
  Donkey Kong Diddy Kong Dixie Kong   Little Mac
  Link Zelda Sheik Ganondorf Toon Link Midna Ghirahim
  Kirby King Dedede Meta Knight Magalor (maybe)   Villager
  Pikachu Jigglypuff Lucario Charizard Greninja Mewtwo
  Pit/Dark Pit Palutena   Fox Falco
  Ness   Samus Zero Suit Samus   Olimar/Alph
  Ike Marth/Lucina Robin   Captain Falcon
  Mr. Game & Watch   Sonic Tails (maybe)   Mega Man
  Pac-Man   Shulk   Mii Fighters
NotesEdit
  • Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Wii Fit Trainer, and Dr. Mario are cut.
  • Mewtwo and Ice Climbers return.
  • Lucina and Dark Pit will be demoted to costumes of Marth and Pit, respectively.
  • Alph returns as a palette swap of Olimar, and Daisy becomes a palette swap of Peach.
  • Waluigi, Dixie Kong, either Midna or Ghirahim, and maybe Magalor and Tails are newcomers.

Characters from New SeriesEdit

  • Inkling (Splatoon)
    • A Splatoon Inkling has a pretty good chance in being in Smash 5 or 6, as I believe Splatoon is going to be a (relatively) well-selling game, and a representative would be nice.
  • Rayman (Rayman series)
    • If he can appear as a trophy in Smash 4, why not as a playable character in Smash 5 or 6?
  • Tempo (HarmoKnight)
    • Because why not? He seems like a good fighter choice, plus I played and enjoyed the game he's from, so, he's gonna be in Smash 5 or 6.
  • Balloon Fight (Balloon Fight)
    • A rumor stating that he was supposed to be in Smash 64 circulated, plus, we got Bowser Jr., so…

incomplete
Rtzxy   Smashing!

PikaSamus' predictionEdit

Incomplete

  • A row with a pink background means that the character is no longer on my list.
  • A row with a light blue background means that I doubt the character's chances.

VeteransEdit

I may be missing some.

Character Series Past Entries
Mario Mario     
Luigi Mario     
Peach Mario    
Bowser Mario    
Dr. Mario Mario   
Rosalina & Luma Mario  
Bowser Jr. Mario  
Yoshi Yoshi     
Donkey Kong Donkey Kong     
Diddy Kong Donkey Kong   
Pikachu Pokémon     
Jigglypuff Pokémon     
Pichu Pokémon  
Mewtwo Pokémon   
Charizard Pokémon   
Lucario Pokémon   
Greninja Pokémon  
Samus Metroid     
Fox Star Fox     
Falco Star Fox    
Wolf Star Fox  
Kirby Kirby     
King Dedede Kirby   
Meta Knight Kirby   
Link The Legend of Zelda     
Zelda The Legend of Zelda    
Sheik The Legend of Zelda    
Ganondorf The Legend of Zelda    
Captain Falcon F-Zero     
Ness EarthBound     
Lucas EarthBound  
Ice Climbers Ice Climber   
Marth Fire Emblem    
Ike Fire Emblem   
Robin Fire Emblem  
Lucina Fire Emblem  
Mr. Game & Watch Game & Watch    
Wario Wario   
Pit Kid Icarus   
Palutena Kid Icarus  
Dark Pit Kid Icarus  
Olimar Pikmin   
R.O.B. R.O.B.   
Wii Fit Trainer Wii Fit  
Shulk Xenoblade Chronicles  
Mii Fighters Super Smash Bros.  
Sonic Sonic   
Snake Metal Gear  
Mega Man Mega Man  
PAC-MAN PAC-MAN  

NewcomersEdit

Character Series Notes
Gen. VII or VIII rep. Pokémon Depends on which is newer at the time.
Ridley Metroid The argument "Ridley is too big" is the dumbest thing.
Slippy Star Fox I feel that Slippy is more important than Krystal or Peppy.
Agnès Bravely Bravely Default is pretty much a Nintendo game outside of Japan, with Nintendo publishing it. She has also been confirmed to be in Bravely Second, but I don't know what role she has, as I don't know Japanese.

Squirtle's little prediction sectionEdit

Nobody gets my title. Except maybe rtzxy and poweron

No chart. I don't do charts. If you can make a chart, and the fact that I don't have a chart is bugging you, go ahead and make this a chart, as long as you don't change my predictions.

Veterans

  • Mario.
  • Luigi.
  • Peach.
  • Bowser.
  • Link.
  • Toon link.
  • Ganondorf.
  • Donkey Kong.
  • Diddy Kong.
  • Mega Man.
  • Pit.
  • Dr. Mario.
  • Sonic.
  • Palutena.
  • Mewtwo.
  • Lucario.
  • Wario.
  • Ness.
  • Lucas.
  • Pikachu.
  • Jigglypuff.
  • Yoshi.
  • Captain falcon.
  • Robin.
  • Ike.
  • Marth.
  • Ice climbers
  • Kirby
  • Meta Knight
  • King Dedede
  • Samus
  • Olimar
  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Shulk (he's really feeling it!)
  • Master Hand (Via glitch)

Newcomers.

  • Adelaine (the painter lady from kirby 64)
  • Inkling
  • Layton
  • shadow
that's all for now.

Littlesquirtle, an average user who doesn't like his signature. (talk) 15:34, 2 November 2014 (EST)

SmashBros's PredictionsEdit

No charts for me. I don't do charts, okay? Too much work. :P So here it goes.

VeteransEdit

Mario SeriesEdit
  • Mario
  • Luigi
  • Dr. Mario
  • Peach
  • Bowser
  • Rosalina & Luma
  • Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong SeriesEdit
  • Donkey Kong
  • Diddy Kong
Legend of Zelda SeriesEdit
  • Link
  • Zelda
  • Sheik
  • Ganondorf
  • Toon Link
Metroid SeriesEdit
  • Samus
  • Zero Suit Samus
Kirby SeriesEdit
  • Kirby
  • Meta Knight
  • King Dedede
Star Fox SeriesEdit
  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Wolf
Pokémon SeriesEdit
  • Pikachu
  • Charizard
  • Lucario
  • Greninja
  • Mewtwo
  • Jigglypuff
Mother SeriesEdit
  • Ness
  • Lucas
Fire Emblem SeriesEdit
  • Marth
  • Ike
  • Robin
Kid Icarus SeriesEdit
  • Pit
  • Palutena
  • Dark Pit
Single Representative's SeriesEdit
  • Yoshi
  • Wario
  • Captain Falcon
  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Olimar
  • Villager
  • Shulk
  • Little Mac
  • R.O.B.
  • Sonic
  • Mega Man
  • Pac-Man
  • Mii Fighter
  • Ice Climbers

NewcomersEdit

This ain't gonna be organized, so be prepared.

  • Dixie Kong
  • Skull Kid
  • Waddle Dee
  • Midna
  • Ridley
  • Kamek [Yoshi series, not Mario]
  • Isaac
  • Chrom
  • Viridi
  • Yveltal
  • Waluigi [Wario series, not Mario]
  • Chibi-Robo
  • Layton
  • Lyn

I'm leaving this incomplete just for a little bit, okay? SmashBros (talk) 10:55, 4 November 2014 (EST)

TheMasterHand's Probable PredictionEdit

Cut CharactersEdit

Wii Fit Trainer Robin Zero Suit Samus

NewcomersEdit

  • Fawful
  • Chesnaught
  • Sceptile
  • Waluigi (NOTE: Would be in the WarioWare Series)
  • Daisy
  • Ashley
  • Kat and Anna
  • Jimmy T
  • Baby Mario (NOTE: Alternate costumes would be based on other Star Children:Baby Luigi, Baby Bowser, etc.)
  • Kamek
  • Giga Bowser (NOTE: Would be a bit smaller)
  • Knuckles
  • Shadow

Clone NewcomersEdit

  • Masked Dedede (Clone of King Dedede)
  • Dark Meta Knight (Clone of Meta Knight)
  • Dark Samus (Clone of Samus)
  • Mr. L (Semi-Clone of Luigi)
  • Metal Mario (Semi-Clone of Mario)
  • Dixie Kong (Clone of Diddy Kong)
  • Ms. Pac-Man (Semi-Clone of Pac-Man)
  • Tails (Semi-Clone of Sonic)

StagesEdit

  • Battlefield
  • Final Destination
  • New Super Mario Bros Wii Stage
  • Luigi's Dreams
  • Ashley's Mansion
  • Kirby Triple Deluxe Stage
  • DK Country 3-D Stage
  • Tip Of The IceBerg
  • Pong
  • Starfox 64 3-D Stage
  • Pokemon Stadium X
  • G&W: Ball
  • Super Mario Bros 2
  • Hyrule Castle 2
  • Kalos Pokemon League
  • Neo Bowser's Castle
  • Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze Stage

Familiar StagesEdit

  • Kongo Jungle (SSB64)
  • New Super Mario Bros U (SSBU)
  • Peach's Castle (SSBM)
  • F-Zero (SSBM)
  • Luigi's Mansion (SSBB)
  • Super Mario 3-D Land (SSB3DS)
  • Metal Battlefield (SSB64)
  • Pokemon Stadium (SSBM)
  • Pokemon Stadium 2 (SSBB)
  • Donkey Kong (SSBB)
  • Hyrule Castle (SSBM
  • Sector Z (SSB64)
  • Dream Land (SSB64)
  • Green Greens (SSBM)

Awesomelink234's predictonsEdit

Cut charactersEdit

Lucina

Duck Hunt

Meta Knight

R.O.B

Zero Suit Samus

Olimar

Dr. Mario

VeteransEdit

Mario

Luigi

Peach

Bowser

Rosalina

Bowser Jr.

Yoshi

Wario

Mr. Game and Watch

Donkey Kong

Diddy Kong

Link

Zelda

Sheik

Ganondorf

Toon Link

Samus

Pit

Palutena

Marth

Ike

Robin

Kirby

King Dedede

Little Mac

Fox

Falco

Pikachu

Charizard

Jigglypuff

Greninja

Ness

Captain Falcon

Villager

Wii Fit Trainer

Dark Pit

Shulk

Pac-Man

Mega Man

Sonic

Previously brought back cut charactersEdit

Ice Climbers

Lucas

Ivysaur

Squirtle

Mewtwo

Roy

Pichu

NewcomersEdit

Prince Fluff (Kirby's Epic Yarn, 2010, Wii)

Magolor (Kirby's Return to Dream Land, 2011, Wii)

Birdo (Super Mario Bros. 2, 1988, NES)

Fawful (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, 2003, GBA)

MarioIsTheBest predictionsEdit

cut charactersEdit

Dr. Mario

Lucina

Dark Pit

everyone else returns as they were in Smash 4 (everyone else I think has a 50% chance or greater of returning, including Mewtwo)

Newcomers and Returning cut charactersEdit

Mewtwo

Ice Climbers

Wolf

Dixie Kong

King K Rool

Ridley

Captain Toad

(New Gen Pokemon)

Impa

Tom Nook

(new series)

(new series)

(new series)

(new series)


1blitzer1' s predictionsEdit

All sm4sh characters, 

lucas,
Roy,
ridley,
sora,
midbus/ ice midbus,
dark bowser(browsers inside story version)
dark samus,
dewott,
grovyle,
clemont (from XY)
pokemon trainer,
ocarina zelda/ zelda & shiek combo with new arrows and a bow,
ice climbers,
spear waddle dee/ bandana dee,
zoroark,
(roll, zero, or bass)
protoman,
skyward sword wolf transformation link,
mii psychic,
Dixie kong,
crystal from starfox,
Dr. Luigi,
daisy,
captain toad,
hungry Luna(those fat, always hungry star bit guzzlers from galaxy)
cat mario(or whatever new suit they make...chicken?)
and mabye some street fighter characters if calcium wants to be in 5mash.

ShinyRegice's predictions (1.0.0 at 12/20/2014)Edit

Yeah, obviously it's waaaaay too early to predict the roster for Smash 5, considering that the game probably will not be released before 2020 at the very least, we can expect a character reveal for... 2019 maybe? At this point it's pretty much impossible to make a convincing and plausible SSB5 roster without putting a lot of filler slots like "Gen VIII Pokémon", "New Starfox character", "Code Name S.T.E.A.M. rep", "Future series rep", etc. and we couldn't imagine a moveset for them anyway. Also look at the SSB4 newcomers, besides Duck Hunt and third-parties, they all have notable post-Brawl appearances.

For all those reasons, I'm not going to post a complete roster; instead I'll post an incomplete one, then I'll add more when new Nintendo games with standing out characters release.

Veterans reflectionEdit

Most of the characters in Smash 4 have strong staying power IMO, but a few ones could be axed if the next director thinks that they're not worth the hard work to put them into the game.

  • Rosalina is a cool addition, but I fear that she eventually becomes generic spinoff filler like Daisy and Waluigi. If she becomes a recurring character in future main Mario titles or even appears in some RPGs she becomes 100 % safe though. But overall I trust her staying power, the worst I realistically imagine for her is being demoted to unlockable.
  • Ike is one of the most notable lords from Fire Emblem, appearing in two titles, being the only lord in the series to not be of royal blood, and also being very popular, but he's not likely to return outside of spin-offs (SMTxFE) or like he did in Awakening as a spirit from the past (like a very high number of past FE characters did), and his "mercenary with a heavy sword" niche kinda overlaps with Shulk, who as the ambassador of the Xenoblade series is pretty safe IMO. His best chance to keep post-SSB4 relevancy is a Radiance games remake, which is something I'd LOVE to see come to real. Like Rosalina, I mostly imagine him demoted to unlockable.
  • Greninja was an extremely surprising addition to the roster, and arguably the most random character choice ever in the Smash history. Even Sakurai admited it himself, he choosed it for the sake of having a gen VI Pokémon character and because it was his favourite Pokémon from this new gen. I'm worried about Greninja's staying power; while Lucario stood the test of time, proving itself as pretty much the second mascot of the series while losing only to Pikachu, I'm dubtful about Greninja keeping its reputation as one of the most popular Pokémon and becoming a staple of the series. It's the only one I'm reasonably expecting to be cut, asides from maybe clones, and third-parties to a lesser extent. However, I hope that we won't get a Pokémon newcomer in SSB5, unless it's one who REALLY stands out and has staying power as a popular mascot.
  • I have no clue about the clone trinity.
  • Third-party characters are an important appeal for new Smash games, and we can reasonably expect at least one third-party newcomer for Smash 4, but it would be a shame to cut any third-party character currently in Smash to add others: Sonic is one of the most well-known gaming characters with a strong history behind him as Mario's previous rival, Mega Man has a great gaming legacy related to Nintendo as well as being pretty much the single gaming character the most adaptable to the Smash format, and Pac-Man is just too much of a gaming icon. If any of these is cut for anyone else, the next director is going to be heavily backlashed. The only thing I imagine against them are potential copyright issues, but overall I expect them to return.

For veterans not playable in Smash 4, I'm not really expecting most of them to return. Young Link, Pichu, Roy and Lucas have next to no shot IMO, being too much of derivatives of other fighters and overall weak as Nintendo characters. Squirtle and Ivysaur were unique but are too weak as Nintendo characters as well. Ice Climbers were causing technical difficulties for the 3DS version (and even possibly Wii U's 8-player Smash) and were outright cut without trying too much to make them possible to handle due to their series being very weak at representing Nintendo, their gaming legacy being behind and not even close to G&W, Duck Hunt and R.O.B. The only way I'm imagining them returning is if they get a new game like how Sakurai revived Kid Icarus. Wolf is a derivative of the other Starfox characters, but I could see him returning due to Starfox getting a revival for the next year, likely with a overhauled moveset inspired from source material from the future game(s?). Snake didn't return back for both being less famous than the other third-parties in Smash and for being more of a Playstation character than a Nintendo one at this point; Sakurai himself admited that he didn't plan to make him playable again from the start. For now I'll assume that none of them will return in Smash 5.

tl;dr The only veterans I'm reasonably expecting to be cut are Greninja and members of the clone trinity, but even then I want to see if Greninja stands the test of time and doesn't become just a "flavour of the month", and I really have no clue about the clones, they could go either way?

Newcomers reflectionEdit

I'm going to add newcomers only if they are accurate and specific characters (and not filler slots like "Character from [insert name here] series"), if I have an accurate idea of how they could work as playable characters, and what they could represent from their series or for Nintendo as a whole.

  • Captain Toad is the new rising star of the Mario universe and is IMO by far the best way to add a playable Toad in Smash. The Toad species itself always felt like an iconic filler for me, but I don't feel this for Captain Toad, as he's a character with definite role and interests, and he has great uniqueness potential with source material from his game and a weight-changing mechanic involving his backpack (like throwing items from it, but they eventually regenerate). And for the "He can't jump" argument, just either make a platform appearing under his feet to allow him to jump, or just flat-out ignore it, I don't see it as much as a big deal as Ridley's proportions. I see him as the most likely Smash 5 newcomer right now.
  • I could see Inkling from Splatoon as well, but I want to see if the series becomes particularly notable, because otherwise it could end up as how Golden Sun and Dillon's Rolling Western were treated in Brawl and Smash 4 respectively. At this point it seems that the series has actual potential to end up ad the next Pikmin or Xenoblade, and there's definitely enough source material to make Inkling unique as a fighter in Smash.

My roster (as of now)Edit

  • Everyone from Smash 4 including Mewtwo (and besides possibly Greninja/members of the clone trinity)
  • Captain Toad
  • Inkling (unsure)

And for everything else... I literally have no clue. I'll wait to see who appears and stands out in future Nintendo games, or becomes newly relevant, to add more characters.

FeedbackEdit

Any feedback is welcome! If you have any, please post in this section. ShinyRegice (talk) 11:58, 20 December 2014 (EST)


MiikaKill`s PredictionEdit

Not doing a chart i dont do charts its to complicated. If someone wants to transform this into a chart feel free to do so as long as you dont change my predictions. I got 60 characters (mii fighters count as 1) there at the moment and 16 of them are newcomers (new mii fighter classes not counted) and i cutted 6 characters.

MarioEdit

Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr, Rosalina and Luma, Yoshi, Wario, Paper Mario (New), Doctor Mario

Donkey KongEdit

Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong

Game & WatchEdit

Mr. Game & Watch

Legend of ZeldaEdit

Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Ghirahim (New), Impa (New)

R.O.BEdit

R.O.B

MetroidEdit

Samus, Zero Suit Samus, Ridley (New)

KirbyEdit

Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Bandana Dee (New)

F-ZeroEdit

Captain Falcon

PokemonEdit

Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Charizard, Mewtwo, Rotom (New), Lucario, Unknown Water-Type Pokemon from generation VII or VIII (New), Sceptile (New)

Star FoxEdit

Fox, Falco, Crystal (New)

Fire EmblemEdit

Marth, Chrom (New), Ike, Lucina

Kid IcarusEdit

Pit, Palutena, Magnus (New)

EarthboundEdit

Ness

XenobladeEdit

Shulk, Fiora (New)

PikminEdit

Olimar

Animal CrossingEdit

Villager

Punch Out!Edit

Little Mac

Mii ChannelEdit

Mii Fighters (Brawler/Swordsman/Gunner/Wizard)

SonicEdit

Sonic

Mega ManEdit

Mega Man

BombermanEdit

Bomberman (New)

SplatoonEdit

Inkling (New)

Golden SunEdit

Isaac (New)

Banjo-KazooieEdit

Banjo and Kazooie (New)

CoolTom1337's PredictionEdit

Returning series chart (Blue = Newcomer)
  Mario Luigi Dr. Mario Peach Bowser Bowser Jr. Rosalina & Luma Waluigi
  Wario   Yoshi   Donkey Kong Diddy Kong
  Ice Climbers   Little Mac   Samus Zero Suit Samus Ridley
  Link Zelda Sheik Ganondorf Toon Link Vaati Ghirahim
  Kirby King Dedede Meta Knight Bandana Dee   Villager   Duck Hunt Duo
  Pikachu Jigglypuff Lucario Charizard Greninja Mewtwo Zoroark
  Pit Dark Pit Palutena Magnus Phosphora   Ness Lucas
  Olimar/Alph   Fox Falco Wolf Krystal   Wii Fit Trainer
  Ike Marth Roy Lucina Robin Ephraim   Captain Falcon
  Mr. Game & Watch   Shulk Dunban   Mii Fighters
  Sonic Tails   Mega Man   Pac-Man
New series chart
Character Series
Agnès Oblige Bravely Default
Saki Amamiya Sin and Punishment
Ray Mk. III Custom Robo
Wonder Red The Wonderful 101
Inkling Splatoon

AiNoUta's-Incredibly-Unrealistic-and-will-Probably-be-Hated-PredictionEdit

/= Character Costume

  • = New Character

MarioEdit

  • Mario/Dr. Mario
  • Luigi/Dr. Luigi
  • Peach/Daisy
  • Bowser
  • Rosalina

Legend of ZeldaEdit

  • Link/Young Link
  • Zelda
  • Sheik
  • Ganondorf
  • Vaati*

KirbyEdit

  • Kirby
  • Meta Knight
  • King Dedede

Fire EmblemEdit

  • Marth/Lucina
  • Ike
  • Robin

PokémonEdit

  • Mewtwo
  • Lucario
  • Charizard
  • Pikachu

Star FoxEdit

  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Wolf

Kid IcarusEdit

  • Pit
  • Palutena

MotherEdit

  • Ness
  • Lucas/Claus

Animal CrossingEdit

  • Villager

F-ZeroEdit

  • Captain Falcon
  • Samurai Goroh*

MegamanEdit

  • Megaman

SonicEdit

  • Sonic

PikminEdit

  • Olimar/Alph/Louie/President

MetroidEdit

  • Samus
  • Zero Suit Samus

Punch-OutEdit

  • Little Mac

Donkey KongEdit

  • Donkey Kong
  • Diddy Kong/Dixie Kong

WarioEdit

  • Wario
  • Ashley*

XenobladeEdit

  • Shulk

Pac-ManEdit

  • Pac-Man/Ms. Pac-Man

Game & WatchEdit

  • Mr. Game and Watch

YoshiEdit

  • Yoshi/Birdo

LittleMacmain97's completely stupid and probably insane predictionEdit

Cut VeteransEdit

Wii Fit Trainer will be cut, along with Dr. Mario. Greninja will be cut and replaced with a rep for the next generation.

NewcomersEdit

  • Inkling (Splatoon!)
  • Maxwell (Scribblenauts)
  • Ken (Street Fighter)
  • Mr. Sandman (Punch-Out!!)
  • King Hippo (Punch-Out!!)
  • Steve (Minecraft)
  • Excitebiker (Excitebike)
  • Dig Dug (Dig Dug)
  • Balloon Fighter (Balloon Fight)
  • Shovel Knight (Shovel Knight)
  • Captain Toad (Mario)
  • Shadow (Sonic)
  • Knuckles (Sonic)
  • Wolf (Star Fox)
  • Impa (Legend of Zelda)
  • Bandana Dee (Kirby)
  • Squirtle (Pokemon)
  • Shy Guy (Yoshi)
  • Paper Mario (Mario)
  • Character from Fire Emblem Fates (Fire Emblem)
  • Louie (Pikmin)
  • Dark Samus (Metroid)
  • Young Link (Legend of Zelda)

NotesEdit

  • I include Punch-Out!! newcomers because I think Sakurai might, might just put em' in.
  • I know that Steve is never gonna get in, but I put him down anyway.
  • Squirtle will be a stand-alone character.
  • Ken will be a semi-clone of Ryu. Key differences include his Shoryuken would be more powerful and his Hadoken less powerful.
  • I thought about including Freddy Fazbear, but that would be to unrealistic.
  • I thought about including Chuck Norris, but didn't because I would've won instantly if I had.
  • All characters from Sm4sh will return, except for the three that I mentioned earlier.
  • Impa will be in her Hyrule Warriors incarnation.
  • And, out of curiosity, why did the guy above me cut Little Mac?



ThePikaPlayer and his Prediction(I need Mabel for this!)Edit

Make a chart for this if you'd like.

  • Still incomplete!

MarioEdit

  • Vets: Mario, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Luigi.
  • Newcomers: Paper Mario, Baby Bowser.

Legend of ZeldaEdit

  • Vets: Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganon, Young Link.
  • Newcomers: Skull Kid.

KirbyEdit

YoshiEdit

  • Vets: Yoshi.
  • Newcomers: Birdo.

Fire EmblemEdit

  • Vets: Marth, Ike, Roy, Robin, Lucina.
  • Newcomers: Chrom, Lyn.

Kid IcarusEdit

  • Vets: Pit, Palutena, Dark Pit.
  • Newcomers: Viridi, Hades.

Super Smash Bros.Edit

  • Vets: Mii Fighters.
  • Newcomers: Fighting Wire Frame.

Wii FitEdit

  • Vets: Wii Fit Trainer.
  • Newcomers: Wii Balance Board.

Xenoblade ChroniclesEdit

  • Vets: Shulk.
  • Newcomers: Dunban, Riki.

Mega ManEdit

  • Vets: Mega Man
  • Newcomers: Zero, Bass.

MetroidEdit

  • Vets: Samus, Zero Suit Samus.
  • Newcomers: Dark Samus, Ridley.

Sonic The HedgehogEdit

  • Vets: Sonic.
  • Newcomers: They were "Too slow!"

EarthboundEdit

  • Vets: Ness, Lucas.
  • Newcomers: Paula, Poo.

Pac-ManEdit

  • Vets: Pac-Man.
  • Newcomers: Ms. Pac-Man.

WarioEdit

  • Vets: Wario.
  • Newcomers: Ashley.

Donkey KongEdit

  • Vets: Diddy and Donkey Kong.
  • Newcomers: Kritter.

Star FoxEdit

  • Vets: Fox, Falco, Wolf.
  • Newcomers: Slippy, Peppy.

Golden SunEdit

  • Newcomers: Isaac.

F-ZeroEdit

  • Vets: Captain Falcon.
  • Newcomers: Blood Falcon.

PokemonEdit

  • Vets: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Pichu, Charizard, Greninja, Lucario, Ivysaur, Squirtle.
  • Newcomers: Hawlucha

Game And WatchEdit

  • Vets: Mr. Game and Watch.
  • Newcomers: Spitball Sparky.

PikminEdit

  • Vets: Olimar.
  • Newcomers: Louie.

Punch-OutEdit

  • Vets: Little Mac.
  • Newcomers: Glass Joe.

Animal CrossingEdit

  • Vets: Villager.
  • Newcomers: K.K. Slider.

NintendogsEdit

  • Newcomers: Nintendog.

NotesEdit

  • Bold depicts unlockable characters.
  • Squirtle and Ivysaur will be standalone characters.
  • Hawlucha was inspired by the Flying Man.
  • Spitball Sparky was a random notion, along with Glass Joe, Louie, Slippy, and Peppy.
  • Pichu deserves to be in Smash 4 due to my liking of Pikachu.
  • Wii Balance Board would be the funniest of the lot.
  • Mewtwo, Pichu, Ivysaur, Roy, and Wolf will return.
  • Rosalina & Luma and Dr. Mario will not come back.
  • Baby Bowser is not to be confused with Bowser Jr.
  • Nintendog and Ridley have to be sized down to make this odd list.

Aidanzapunk's Predictions (Version 2)Edit

Since a lot has changed in terms of my opinions towards Smash 4 and Smash 4 itself, I think I've got some newer ideas.

CharactersEdit

Cut CharactersEdit
  • Wii Fit Trainer: This one was an out-of-left-field pick.
  • Villager: See above.
NewcomersEdit
  • Professor Layton: This guy needs to be in. You could do so much with him. And he's had a lot of history with Nintendo.
  • Shadow the Hedgehog: For the record, he would NOT be a Sonic clone.
  • Isaac: Despite my opinions towards him, he's very popular.
  • Inkling: Because why the hell not.
  • Sora: I myself haven't played Kingdom Hearts, but I do enjoy characters from series I'm not familiar with.
  • Shovel Knight: I think it's kinda obvious at this point.

*insert obligatory King K. Rool vote here*

Previously Cut VeteransEdit
  • Ice Climbers: I know, Sakurai cut them because they had low priority over the rest of the cast, but still.
  • Snake: I swear, if he doesn't come back as DLC, then he should come back in Smash 5.
  • Wolf: Honestly, he's less of a clone of Fox than Luigi is of Mario. And he's very popular.

New stagesEdit

  • Monte d'Or: The sort of hub world from Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask. Miracle Mask was my first Layton game, and if Layton got in, this would have to be his stage.
  • Starlight Carnival: The third world from Sonic Colors. Colors is my favorite Sonic game, and you could totally make a moving stage out of this.

 Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior  16:42, 9 November 2015 (EST)


BeepYou's roster predictionsEdit

I'm doing this for fun, it's just the roster I would want in the next game, not trying to really predict and win.

KEEP IN MIND CUSTOMS ARE REMOVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MIIS

Returning veteransEdit

MarioEdit
  •   Mario
  •   Dr. Mario: Unlockable.
  •   Luigi: Unlockable.
  •   Peach
  •   Bowser: More texture on his skin and scales, but otherwise still cartoonish.
  •   Bowser Jr.: Unlockable.
  •   Rosalina & Luma: Heavily nerfed so that she is much harder to use, but not enough so that she is still viable.
YoshiEdit
WarioEdit
Donkey KongEdit
  •   Donkey Kong
  •   Diddy Kong: Immensely nerfed.
Game & WatchEdit
  •   Mr. Game & Watch: Unlockable.
Punch-Out!!Edit
  •   Little Mac
MetroidEdit
  •   Samus
  •   Zero Suit Samus: Less stern expression in her Screen KO.
F-ZeroEdit
  •   Captain Falcon
The Legend of ZeldaEdit
  •   Link: Using his Hyrule Warriors design.
  •   Toon Link: Unlockable.
  •   Zelda
  •   Sheik: Using her Hyrule Warriors design. Nerfed.
  •   Ganondorf: Unlockable.
Kid IcarusEdit
  •   Pit
  •   Dark Pit: Unlockable.
Fire EmblemEdit
  •   Marth
  •   Lucina: Unlockable.
  •   Roy: Unlockable.
  •   Ike
  •   Robin
  •   Corrin
Duck HuntEdit
  •   Duck Hunt: Unlockable.
KirbyEdit
  •   Kirby
  •   King Dedede
  •   Meta Knight: Using his Kirby: Right Back At Ya! design
Star FoxEdit
  •   Fox
  •   Falco: Unlockable.
PokémonEdit
  •   Pikachu
  •   Jigglypuff: Unlockable.
  •   Lucario
  •   Charizard
  •   Greninja
  •   Mewtwo: Unlockable. And heavily buffed.
R.O.B.Edit
  •   R.O.B.: Unlockable.
EarthBoundEdit
Animal CrossingEdit
  •   Villager
PikminEdit
  •   Alph: Olimar gets cut but Alph is his own character now.
Wii FitEdit
  •   Wii Fit Trainer
Xenoblade ChroniclesEdit
  •   Shulk: More lively and smiling in his taunts (except down taunt) and victory poses. Unlockable.
SonicEdit
  •   Sonic: Unlockable.
Mega ManEdit
  •   Mega Man: He has some voice clips from Mega Man: Powered Up and is voiced by the same VA, Cole Howard. Blast KO sound changed to the "life lost" sound from Mega Man 3 onward.
Street FighterEdit
  •   Ryu: He now smiles lightly in his "Your range is one fist short" victory pose.
Pac-ManEdit
  •   Pac-Man: Using his Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures design (sorry Massive Hero Soccer Guy). His Star KO sound is now the "life lost" sound from the original Pac-Man (which only appears in StreetSmash). Still no voice.
Final FantasyEdit
  •   Cloud: Unlockable.
BayonettaEdit
  •   Bayonetta: It depends: if she is way too OP in SSB4, then she gets nerfed depending on the OP level.
Special charactersEdit
  •   Mii Brawler
  •   Mii Swordfighter
  •   Mii Gunner


Previously cut veteransEdit

Star FoxEdit
PokémonEdit
  •   Pichu: Heavily buffed tho. Still recoil damage but less than before, and more power than Pikachu. Unlockable.
Ice ClimberEdit
  •   Ice Climbers
Metal GearEdit
  •   Snake: Unlockable.


NewcomersEdit

Donkey KongEdit
  •   Dixie Kong: Semi-clone of Diddy but she doesn't have the Banana Peel as her down special, it gets replaced by a different move that I'm too lazy to think of. Weaker than Diddy, but faster mobility. Almost the same frame data. Unlockable.
  •   King K. Rool: Yep.
MetroidEdit
  •   Ridley: Shrunken down, semi-clone of Charizard as it can jump three times, fly and glide, and has some attacks taken from him. However, it is almost as heavy as DK. Poor frame data to compensate, though only to the extent of Charizard. Slightly less damaging attacks and some of them are different so it can be considered a semi-clone.
The Legend of ZeldaEdit
Kid IcarusEdit
  •   Viridi: A deity made it into Smash Bros. Now a smaller deity does as well, but with faster moves (different ones that don't make her a clone of Palutena). Unlockable.
KirbyEdit
  •   Bandanda Waddle Dee
  •   Prince Fluff: Unlockable.
Star FoxEdit
  •   Krystal: Moveset inspired from Palutena in some regards, but faster in all aspects.
PokémonEdit
  •   Igglybuff: Maybe I lost my mind, but I want a more mobile but frailer and slightly weaker clone of Jiggs. Unlockable.
  •   Sceptile: He deserves to be in if we're not getting Ivysaur. Unlockable.
SonicEdit
  •   Tails: Unlockable. Why not? :]
Mega ManEdit
  •   Proto Man: Unlockable. Voiced by his Mega Man: Powered Up VA, Jonathan Love. A frailer but more mobile semi-clone of Mega Man that uses his mechanics from Mega Man 9 and 10, with some different attcks:
    • Neutral attack/Forward tilt/Neutral aerial: Proto Buster - Only fires twice instead of once, slightly longer range.
    • Up tilt: Same as Mii Gunner
    • Down tilt: Charge Kick - More powerful but laggier.
    • Up smash: Laser Trident
    • Down smash: Chill Spike - Ice effect instead of flame, faster with slightly less power.
    • Forward aerial: Triple Blade - Slashes three times instead of once, electric effect instead of flame, sword glows green (like Zero's Z-Saber) then fades to purple after attacking (like the original Triple Blade). More similar to Meta Knight's forward aerial.
    • Up aerial: Tornado Blow - Three tornadoes instead of one, giving it more horizontal range, but it has less vertical range and as a result inflicts less damage with knockback compensated.
    • Grab aerial/Grab: Thunder Claw - Similar to Samus' Grapple Beam.
    • Neutral special: Shadow Blade - Due to the game having no customs, Proto Man receives Mega Man's custom move as a special of his own.
    • Side special: Ice Slasher - Same as neutral special.
    • Up special: Tornado Hold - Same as previous specials.
    • Down special: Jewel Sattelite - Same function as Skull Barrier but with a x1.4 multiplier and inflicts 2% damage for each jewel, like Mega Man's Leaf Shield.
    • Final Smash: Proto Zero Attack - He teams up with Zero and they attack the opponent. Similar startup as Pair Up, similar cutscene as Chain Attack.
BattletoadsEdit
  •   Rash: Doesn't have a voice, but his Star KO sound is that of a low-pitched croak.
RaymanEdit
  •   Rayman: Unlockable.


DLC newcomersEdit

The Legend of ZeldaEdit
Kingdom HeartsEdit
Special charactersEdit
  •   Mii Wizard


Cut characters that later return as DLC veteransEdit

Kid IcarusEdit
  •   Palutena: Autoreticle and Reflect Barrier get replaced by Explosive Flame and Super Speed respectively. She gets catastrophically buffed in frame data, aerial mobility and damage, so her frame data is much more balanced (but not to Mario or Sheik levels), and her damage output is as high as Luigi's. She originally gets cut due to the game's abscence of custom moves for other characters that aren't Miis. (yep, just because of that reason). Originally only mentioned in her trophy.


I would put an image of a roster but the roster maker won't open for me. So that's it then. --  The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v 14:58, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Nintenzilla's PredictionsEdit

Basically, I predict the roster to look something like this,

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Cut CharactersEdit

Due to their overall controversy, Dark Pit and Lucina are made into costumes, while Dr. Mario is kept for being the clone with the strongest following (Ironically).

Feedback is also welcome. Nintenzilla (talk) 13:38, 12 January 2016 (EST)

The Luigi Master's PredictionsEdit

I might make a fancy chart or something at some point, but for now I'll just keep it simple

VeteransEdit

All characters in SSB4, including the DLC characters, return, except for the following:

  • Dr. Mario (Who is now an Alt Costume for Mario)
  • Lucina (Who is now an Alt Costume for Marth)
  • Dark Pit (Who is now an Alt Costume for Pit)

Returning From Melee or BrawlEdit

The following characters have returned after being cut from Brawl

  • Wolf (Who is heavier and stronger, and, other than his Blaster, has different specials)
  • Ice Climbers (Who now appear as 2 characters but function as 1, kind of like Duck Hunt. They still hit separately, however, so you have to make sure to line them up correctly for massive damage)
  • Snake (Who plays same, but his inclusion is dependent solely upon Konami's status as a company)

NewcomersEdit

  • Captain Toad (We need some kind of Toad character to finish the Big 4 from SSB2, and Captain Toad would be pretty unique: a small character that has difficulty jumping, but packs a huge punch)
  • Waluigi (Actually, I think the fact that he's spin-off exclusive can work to his advantage: he could integrate different things from various Mario spin-offs to have a Villager-style, wacky, unorthodox moveset)
  • King K. Rool (...meh, I don't really get the hype for this guy. I only added him on here because he's suddenly really popular)
  • Impa (Pretty much the last major Zelda character not already in the game)
  • Lana (She may have been in 1 spin-off title, but I think a true Mage-type character would be pretty sweet)
  • Gardevoir (Probably the most popular Gen 3 Pokemon, and her Fairy typing could make for an interesting psychic/magic based moveset)
  • (Some Pokemon from Gen 7 or 8. As for which one...well, we'll find out when they come)
  • Ridley (Shrunk down, but still the largest character in the game. He would have amazing reach, power, movement, and air speed, but garbage frame data, and obviously a ridiculously large hitbox)
  • Sylux (I don't know too much about this guy, but he's slated to have some kind of major role in a future Metroid game, so he could join in if he's a big enough deal)
  • Viridi (We NEED a plant/grass-based character, and Viridi would be perfect for the role)
  • (New Fire Emblem character. Like Pokemon, this is one we'll just have to wait and see for)
  • Bandana Dee (Round out the Return to Dreamland quartet. He probably wouldn't be super unique moveset-wise, but still, no other character wields a spear)
  • Elma (with Xenoblade Chronicles X seemingly being a huge hit, I don't think it's too much of a stretch)
  • Balloon Fighter (A classic along the lines of Duck Hunt and R.O.B., he would be a pretty hilarious inclusion)
  • Isaac (It's Golden Sun's time to shine! I think, like Corrin, he could use his sword for basic attacks, and use his earth-bending skills for his more powerful attacks)
  • Sami (I think she best represents the universe, more so than Andy. Plus, if Snake is a no-go, she could just adopt his moveset to cover the loss)
  • Marshal (despite being a pretty niche character, even for Smash standards, a Rhythm-based fighter could be pretty interesting)
  • Inkling (Splatoon is a HUGE hit, plus their Ink gimmick could translate will into Smash: every move uses ink, and you refill by turning into a squid with Down B. A character that is strong, but has to keep periodically charging to stay that way, would pretty awesome)

And last but not least...

  • Captain N (I know, he's technically a TV Show character, but he's still Nintendo, and I think he could do an amazing job representing the various Nintendo console/controllers/accessories over the years in his moves. Besides, R.O.B. is a toy and Mr. G&W isn't even really a character. It's not TOO farfetched. ...OK, yeah, it's pretty farfetched, but a man can dream!)


BaconMaster331's predictionsEdit

This is essentially a hopeful guy's wishlist, isn't it?

By the by, characters in bold are most likely gonna be DLC.

Veterans from SSB4Edit

  • Mario
  • Luigi
  • Peach
  • Bowser
  • Rosalina and Luma
  • Bowser Jr.
  • Yoshi
  • Donkey Kong
  • Diddy Kong
  • Link (a la Zelda Wii U)
  • Zelda (a la Zelda Wii U)
  • Sheik
  • Ganondorf
  • Toon Link
  • Samus
  • Zero Suit Samus
  • Kirby
  • Meta Knight
  • King Dedede
  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Pikachu
  • Jigglypuff
  • Mewtwo
  • Charizard
  • Lucario
  • Greninja
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ness
  • Lucas
  • Marth
  • Roy
  • Robin
  • Lucina
  • Corrin
  • Ike
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Pit
  • Palutena
  • Wario
  • Olimar
  • R.O.B.
  • Villager
  • Little Mac
  • Wii Fit Trainer
  • Shulk
  • Duck Hunt
  • Mii Fighters
  • Sonic
  • Mega Man
  • Pac-Man
  • Ryu
  • Cloud
  • Bayonetta

SSBB VeteransEdit

  • Wolf
  • Squirtle
  • Ice Climber (Sopo all the way!)

NewcomersEdit

Ah, yes, what we've all been waiting for...

Lesser-known characters get a link to their page.

  • Paper Mario
  • Waluigi (I don't want him, but I'm sure he's coming)
  • Dixie Kong
  • Zelda Rep (probably Ghirahim, Skull Kid or Deku Link)
  • Bandana Dee
  • Prince Fluff
  • Gen 7/8 Pokemon (C'mon, we all know it's true...0
  • Jeff
  • Lyn (unless there's a new Fire Emblem!)
  • Isaac
  • Saki
  • Inkling
  • Takamaru
  • Chibi-Robo
  • Nester
  • Bomberman
  • Zero

Cut CharactersEdit

  • Dr. Mario (now an alt. for Mario)
  • Dark Pit (for obvious reasons)

Well, that's all I've got for now (as of 1/16/16)

BaconMaster out!

Exploudit's PredictionEdit

Click here for the roster chart Blue Outline - Veteran Red Outline - Unlockable Veteran Green Outline - Newcomer Yellow Outline - Unlockable Newcomer

Cuts from Smash 4Edit

  • Wii Fit Trainer
  • Dr. Mario (now as a Mario alternate)
  • Dark Pit (now as a Pit alternate)
  • Lucina (now as a Marth alternate)

Characters for Smash 5Edit

  • Mario
  • Luigi (Now faster than Mario but lighter, also jumps a little bit higher. Has a more Luigi's Mansion inspired moveset, raher tha beeing a Mario semi-clone)
  • Peach (Slightly buffed from smash 4)
  • Daisy (As a Peach Semi-Clone)
  • Rosalina & Luma
  • Yoshi
  • Captain Toad (Unique in the sense that he has two movesets, one in which he is with his backpack, thus he is extremely heavy and can't jump and the other in wich he is very light and agile, without his backpack, but has trouble killing)
  • Baby Mario & Baby Luigi (Both controlled by the player, when on of the bros. gets KOed it only respawns when the other dies, Unlike Brawl's Ice Climbers, tere is no "leader")
  • Bowser (Slightly buffed)
  • Bowser jr. (Significantly buffed)
  • Kamek
  • King Boo (Unique beacause of his moveset consisting of deploying Boos at the cost of his weight and size. Boos movement and attacks are commanded by King Boo, like how Rosalina controls Luma. He can reabsorb Boos but increasing his percentage as much as the percentage the Boo he absorbed had, Boos alone are extremely light (15 weight). King Boo's smash relies on Luigi's mansion's series ghosts. And are stronger if there are less Boos deployed. Whn boos are KOed they never respwn, rather, King Boo deos at his full weight. His Side Special deploys a Boo in his front and his Down Special recalls the Boo that is closer. His up special deals no damage and makes him vanish and reappear in the closest ledge, when reappears, he pushes opponents away but deals no damage. His neutral special triggers all Boos to attack by vanishing and reappiring near the opponent, acting as a KO move)
  • Wario (Significanly buffed)
  • Waluigi (With a brand new moveset Waluigi is a quick but light newcomer)
  • Nabbit (Very fast but also really light. Fits the hit and run archetype)
  • Donkey Kong (Signifanctly buffed)
  • Diddy Kong
  • Dixie Kong (Using her hair and guitar to attack, she provides an amazing recovery with her hair and an absurd ranged command grab)
  • Cranky Kong (A DK semi-clone, is even slower but deals more damage. Has a better recovery using cannons and he throws barrels as a projectile that can break through reflectors, regardless of being slow)
  • Funky Kong (Another DK semi-clone, using some different moves)
  • King K. Rool (Slow and heavy, but still a threat)
  • Fox
  • Falco (Slighly buffed)
  • Wolf (Returns as a veteran from Brawl and slighlty buffed)
  • Krystal
  • Kirby (Slightly buffed)
  • King Dedede (Significantly buffed)
  • Meta Knight
  • Waddle Dee
  • Little Mac
  • Link (Slightly buffed)
  • Toon Link (Now with a more unique moveset, rather than being a semi-clone of Link)
  • Midna & Wolf Link (Both characters share a hurtbox, and are really fast)
  • Ravio (Uses the items he sells to Link in his arsennal and controls Speerow the same way Rosalina controls Luma. Instead of having a regular shield, he merge into a painting and can stay there until a purple bar wears out, making him shield stunned. When rolling he walks from a painting to another, even though it is slow the move is very safe, when airdodging the also enters the painting)
  • Zelda (Heavily buffed)
  • Sheik (Slightly nerfed)
  • Toon Zelda (She acts as a Zelda semi-clone, having little differences on her moveset)
  • Tetra
  • Ganondorf
  • Toon Ganondorf (Ganondorf's semi-clone)
  • Vaati
  • Skull Kid
  • Samus (Slightly buffed)
  • Dark Samus (Has a very unique moveset, but is as slow as Samus)
  • Zero Suit Samus (Slightly nerfed)
  • Pit (Slightly buffed)
  • Palutena (Significantly buffed)
  • Viridi
  • Marth
  • Ike (Slightly buffed)
  • Corrin (Slightly buffed)
  • Robin (Slightly buffed)
  • Roy
  • Ness
  • Lucas (Significantly buffed)
  • Captain Falcon (Slightly buffed)
  • Ice Climbers (veterans from Brawl, slightly nerfed, now working similarly to Baby Mario and Luigi, where both are controled by the player)
  • Duck Hunt
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Excitebiker
  • Pikachu
  • Charizard (Heavily buffed)
  • Greninja (Heavily nerfed... jk, he is buffed SIGNIFICANTLY)
  • Sceptile
  • Gardevoir
  • Lucario
  • Zoroark
  • Plusle & Minun (work similarly to the baby bros., but one cannot recover without the other)
  • Machamp
  • Gengar
  • Jigglypuff (Slightly buffed)
  • Scizor
  • Hawlucha
  • Floette-Eternal
  • Mewtwo (Heavily buffed)
  • Villager (Can be customized like the Miis)
  • Isabelle
  • Olimar
  • Chorus Kids (Share a hurtbox)
  • Inkling (Can be customized like the Miis)
  • R.O.B. (Significantly buffed)
  • Sonic (SLightly nerfed)
  • Mega Man
  • Pac-Man
  • Rayman
  • Ryu
  • Cloud
  • Bayonetta (Significantly nerfed [Diddy style])
  • Miis (Swordfighter and gunner are slightly buffed)

Tadd's predictionsEdit

Unlike most other rosters on here, I base my roster on probability. That is, is it likely they will get in? I am NOT basing this on my personal opinions, nor am i trying to cram as many characters as possible into the game.

Arranged by series. Newcomers in bold. Third party characters have their own section

Mario UniverseEdit

  • Mario
  • Luigi
  • Peach
  • Bowser
  • Rosalina and Luma
  • Bowser Jr.
  • Paper Mario (I count him as part of the Mario series, deal with it)

Yoshi UniverseEdit

  • Yoshi
  • Kamek

Wario UniverseEdit

  • Wario
  • Waluigi

Donkey Kong UniverseEdit

  • Donkey Kong
  • Diddy Kong
  • King K. Rool

Zelda UniverseEdit

  • Link
  • Zelda
  • Sheik
  • Ganondorf
  • Tetra

Pokemon UniverseEdit

  • Pikachu
  • Jigglypuff
  • Mewtwo
  • Lucario
  • Charizard
  • Greninja
  • Sceptile

Metroid UniverseEdit

  • Samus
  • Zero Suit Samus

Star Fox UniverseEdit

  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Krystal

Kirby UniverseEdit

  • Kirby
  • King DeDeDe
  • Meta Knight
  • Waddle Dee (bandana)

F-Zero UniverseEdit

  • Captain Falcon

Mother UniverseEdit

  • Ness
  • Lucas
  • Porky/Pokey

Fire Emblem UniverseEdit

  • Marth
  • Roy
  • Ike
  • Robin
  • Corrin

Ice Climber UniverseEdit

  • Ice Climbers

Game and Watch UniverseEdit

  • Mr. Game & Watch

Pikmin UniverseEdit

  • Olimar

Kid Icarus UniverseEdit

  • Pit
  • Palutena

R.O.B. UniverseEdit

  • R.O.B.

Animal Crossing UniverseEdit

  • Villager

Punch-Out!! UniverseEdit

  • Little Mac

Wii Fit UniverseEdit

  • Wii Fit Trainer

Duck Hunt UniverseEdit

  • Duck Hunt

Xenoblade UniverseEdit

  • Shulk

Splatoon UniverseEdit

  • Inkling

Golden Sun UniverseEdit

  • Isaac

Rhythm Heaven UniverseEdit

  • Chorus Kids

Chibi Robo SeriesEdit

  • Chibi Robo

Third Party CharactersEdit

  • Sonic
  • Knuckles
  • Mega Man
  • Pac-Man
  • Ryu
  • Cloud
  • Bayonetta
  • Banjo and Kazooie
  • Ray Man
  • Bomberman
  • Shovel Knight
  • Scorpion

Mii FightersEdit

  • Mii Swordsman
  • Mii Brawler
  • Mii Gunner
  • Mii Mage
  • Mii Athlete

Additional Information/speculationEdit

Given the developers have more time, I feel Toon Link and Dr. Mario will be the first to be added, followed by new clones or semi-clones, such as Daisy. Given the developers have less time, I feel Roy will be first to be cut, followed by Lucas.

If they do have DLC and Roy and Lucas were cut, they will be the first veterans with a shot, followed by Wolf, Squirtle and Ivysaur. Newcomers for DLC are most likely to be 3rd party that couldn't be added through normal means, as with Smash 4 DLC

It is possible that Sheik's moveset will instead go to Impa in favor of series relevance, though with Sheik being a fan favorite, it's not likely.

Palutena may be cut due to a variety of factors, some of which include lack of games in the series, lack of popularity, and whether or not they keep custom moves. For the most part, I kept her due to being a unique moveset

It is possible that a new Fire Emblem lord may be added in favor of Robin and/or Corrin, but it's hard to predict at this point in time

In addition, I leave one newcomer off the list. This is most likely a retro/wtf character, but as Sakurai is a man that is anything but predictable, there is no way to pinpoint it exactly. Possibilities include:

  • Exitebiker
  • Takamaru
  • Reckless Wiimote guy
  • Jibanyan
  • Ray MKIII
  • Lana (HW)
  • An indie third-party character, such as Frisk or Shantae
  • A character created specifically for this series. As an example, I am using Master Hand Jr.

(I am not saying all of these characters may get in, probably only one)

This will bring my total character count from between 72 and 80 characters in the base game (counting all mii fighters separately). With that, I bid you good day, sirs.

-Tadd (added Feb 23, 2016)


Saki's predictionsEdit

Character Series Past Entries
Mario Mario     
Luigi Mario     
Peach Mario    
Bowser Mario    
Bowser Jr. Mario  
Rosalina Mario  
Dr. Mario Mario   
Yoshi Yoshi     
Wario Wario   
Donkey Kong Donkey Kong     
Diddy Kong Donkey Kong   
King K. Rool Donkey Kong
Mr. Game & Watch Game & Watch    
Little Mac Punch-Out!!  
Link Zelda     
Zelda/Sheik Zelda    
Ganondorf Zelda    
Toon Link Zelda   
Young Link Zelda  
Samus Metroid     
Zero Suit Samus Metroid   
Pit Kid Icarus   
Palutena Kid Icarus  
Dark Pit Kid Icarus  
Marth Fire Emblem    
Ike Fire Emblem   
Roy Fire Emblem   
Robin Fire Emblem  
Corrin Fire Emblem  
Anna Fire Emblem
Duck Hunt Duck Hunt  
Kirby Kirby     
Meta Knight Kirby   
King Dedede Kirby   
Fox Star Fox     
Falco Star Fox    
Wolf Star Fox  
Pikachu Pokémon     
Charizard Pokémon   
Lucario Pokémon   
Mewtwo Pokémon   
Jigglypuff Pokémon     
Greninja Pokémon  
R.O.B R.O.B.   
Ice Climbers Ice Climber   
Ness EarthBound     
Lucas EarthBound   
Captain Falcon F-Zero     
Villager Animal Crossing  
Olimar Pikmin   
Alexandra Roivas Eternal Darkness
Wii Fit Trainer Wii Fit  
Ricky Winterborn 1080° Snowboarding
Shulk Xenoblade Chronicles  
Isaac Golden Sun
Saki Amamiya Sin and Punishment
Takamaru The Mysterious Murasame Castle
Inkling Splatoon
Spring Man ARMS
Pac-Man Pac-Man  
Kazuya Mishima Tekken
Ryu Street Fighter  
Mega Man Mega Man  
Crash Bandicoot Crash Bandicoot
Snake Metal Gear  
Sonic Sonic the Hedgehog   
Bayonetta Bayonetta  
Travis Touchdown No More Heroes
Shovel Knight Shovel Knight
Mii Brawler Mii Channel  
Mii Swordfighter Mii Channel  
Mii Gunner Mii Channel  
Mii Mage Mii Channel
Mii Sports Player Mii Channel

ReasoningEdit

So why did I cut Lucina? Unlike every other clone, she is a clone of a clone (minus Wolf and Young Link, but I'd revamp them and Dark Pit) and we already have representation of her game in Robin. I put in K.rool due to fan support, Isaac due to the same and my support, Saki because he's supposedly popular in Japan and he's been my #1 wish since Brawl, Ricky because he can be the joke character, Alexandra because she'd be unique I guess? I don't know, I'd like to see it though. Takamaru because he was supposed to be in Smash 4, Inklings because Splatoon is popular, Spring Man to support ARMS and he's the face of it, Kazuya because Namco needs a second rep and Street Fighter X Tekken 2 would be cool (assuming Tekken X Street Fighter doesn't release before this), Crash because he's a popular platforming icon and was on Nintendo post original trilogy, Travis because he's getting a new Switch game and Ubisoft needs a rep and a wrestler with a beam katana is cool, Shovel Knight because he's the most popular indie choice with his own Amiibo, and the 2 Mii types because they are popular ideas. Anna because Fire Emblem doesn't need a character except the one who's been there since Gaiden. Anna is DLC.


Nyargle's predictionEdit

 

Why not? If TNO decides it's too late, I'll take the minus one.

The Pokemon is Decidueye, the Fire Emblem character is specifically the main protagonist of Fire Emblem Switch (if this isn't specific enough, I'll swap it out), and the newcomer is Face Raider. Have a few notes:

  • Bowser Jr. has circumstances close enough to characters like Mewtwo post-Melee and Wolf for me to consider him an unsafe bet.
  • Corrin will no longer have the appeal of being the newest FE lord.
  • Face Raider is actually among the most likely newcomers IMO because it's the most Sakurai pick possible (totally random but actually makes some sense given the game's proliferation; think Wii Fit Trainer). Plus, I came up with a moveset on my Smash 5 ideas page, so devs paid to do it could come up with one, too.
  • Minecraft has the sales, is as iconic a series as Mega Man and maybe even Sonic at this point, represents the historic indie movement, and has Nintendo editions that are popular in Japan.
  • Crash had a game on the GameCube, so a Nintendo release was never a hurdle.
  • Sylux apparently has more importance now, avoids the "three Samuses" issue, and isn't too big according to Sakurai. The ideal Metroid rep.
  • Isabelle is everywhere and unarguably the most popular Animal Crossing character now.
  • The only retro candidate that might be surprising at this point to fans is a Famicom Fairytales character. I like these ones.
  • If Inklings weren't added as DLC, Spring Man won't be playable in the base game.

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