Talk:Dash attack canceled up smash

what was wrong?

Was there anything wrong with the old BDACUS gif? I found it more useful than the current one.Littlesquirtle (talk) 10:30, 2 October 2014 (EDT)

Article Title

I hate to say this, but... "canceled" and "canceling" are non-standard alternative spellings of "cancelled" and "cancelling", and are used nowhere but the States. Even in the US the correct spellings are "cancelled" and "cancelling" - this isn't just because I speak English (UK) rather than English (US), the name of this article is spelt incorrectly, wherever you are. It just makes the page seem less encyclopaedic if there's a spelling mistake in the title. PenguinofDeath 07:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

MERGE!!!

how many names will we have for this technique: canceled dash attack into a sliding up smash. plz someone put them all together. and prevent new ones from being made!--tarrant1400 (talk) 07:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

DACUS is the official name, so this one stays I guess. Shade487z/SeniorSombra! 07:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

NOOO!!! that's the prob!!! no- one is settling on the name. merge it first. then we can see which one the community decides. also, boost-smashing came first that's the name which should be official, DACUS can be A technical one, sure, but how can a brand-new article(DACUS) be "official?" --tarrant1400 (talk) 08:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Smashboards calls it DACUS, so I assume it is the most common name used for this technique.Y462 (T • C • E ) 19:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I looked around before putting this up...I couldn't find the article you must be referring to that would be explaining the same technique. There was no article named "Boost Smash" or "Boost Smashing," so really it'd just be best if one could redirect "Boost Smash" to this. In general, it's best to use the technical terms for something like a Wiki anyways. So I guess that's that. GdDmt (talk) 08:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so I've only just now noticed the "dash attack canceling" page which refers to the exact same technique. The articles should be merged. My bad. GdDmt (talk) 21:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Merge it...User:KoRoBeNiKi

Is it possible on a wii mote?

Is this glitch possible to perform using a wiimote?--Moneypony (talk) 08:03, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

It is not a glitch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.11.23.2 (talk • contribs) 10:22, January 10, 2011 (EST)

Please read the timestamp of posts before responding to them. If a response is months old, don't bother responding to them. Also remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~ Omega Tyrant 10:45, 10 January 2011 (EST)

D-Pad

I've found that using the D-Pad on the Wii Remote with Nunchuk makes it much easier to do a DACUS, as the D-Pad is closer to the attack button. Should this be mentioned on the article? Anon 19:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

You can't say it is easier in the article as that is a matter of opinion. I for one, would disagree with that being easier than using the control scheme I use on the GCN controller, with the L button set to attack and tap jump off. Omega Tyrant 19:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

C-stick only DACUS? Also Yoshi

I tried doing a DACUS with only the C-stick in the past, and I think it worked. However, now I just confirmed it. When I use the Dolphin emulator, the game runs at ~30FPS. This, combined with the fact that the C-stick's smashes are keyboard keys, allowed me to perform a DACUS with Snake just with the C-stick. Obviously, one just needs to input C-down and C-up in quick succession. Of course, this doesn't seem as likely in a real match, because at 60FPS, with a regular C-stick, this is next to impossible to achieve. But I feel we should mention that it's possible regardless. Those that have trouble performing a right DACUS can just smash the C-stick down and up while running in hopes of getting better results. I know it works better if you hit someone during the C-down portion (hitlag). It doesn't work as well in slow Brawl because the game ignores C-stick input half of the time.

Another thing: I tried using a DACUS with Yoshi (with the C-stick only). A regular pivot up-smash makes him slide, but a DACUS makes him halt the dash and perform an up-smash standing still. This is worth mentioning, right? Espyo (talk) 16:03, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

I reckon the C-stick info can be added as a note, but for the hyphen smash being longer than some characters DACUS isn't, there are some many more characters that have a better hyphen smash than a DACUS but there are only roughly eight characters that have a use for DACUS and that has been noted.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 20:09, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

Diddy Kong

Can Diddy perform a DACUS? It says so on his page, but I'm not sure if he can. Scr7 17:34, 5 July 2013 (EDT)

melee?

can a DACUS be done in melee? i know you can dash into an upsmash, not sure if it works out of a dash attack though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJLO (talk • contribs) 14:09, 26 September 2013

The mechanics of Melee don't allow cancelling a dash attack into an up smash; it's a Brawl-exclusive technique. Scr7(talk · contribs) 12:40, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

Well, i know you can do an upsmash out of just a dash(only upsmash works, any other smash or "a" press results in a dash attack). perhaps we should mention that? it is essentially the same thing, since they both result in an up-smash while moving forward. DJLO (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

DACUS means using a dash attack and cancelling it into the up smash, while what you're saying is using an up smash out of the dash animation, not the dash attack. Scr7(talk · contribs) 13:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

i understand the difference. my point is that they end up doing the same thing(moving forward while doing an upsmash), so it seems worth mentioning. just forget it.DJLO (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

Smash 4

Dash attacks can be canceled into up smashes in Super Smash Bros. 4, but it won't result in a slide. I know it's not a complete sliding DACUS, but I think we should mention it on the page because it is technically a Dash attack canceled up smash. Qwerty (talk) 12:24, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

...didn't I just add that? Aidan the Gamer 12:25, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

Someone undid it, but I feel it should stay. So I'm running it through the talkpage. Qwerty (talk) 12:27, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

It got reverted because someone thought it wasn't a DACUS if it doesn't slide. Which is untrue. Aidan the Gamer 12:29, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

A DACUS that involves cancelling a dash attack into an up smash without sliding is called a Gatling Combo. I'm interested in seeing a video of this in Smash 4. The type of DACUS that is known to be in Smash 4 is this. Scr7(talk · contribs) 12:31, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

As seen in the actual article, the list of characters who can perform a sliding DACUS is incomplete. It also states clearly in the article that any character can perform a DACUS. Therefore, the claim I am making isn't wrong. Aidan the Gamer 13:41, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

It's called a DACUS because DACUS stands for "Dash attack cancelled up smash", where you cancel your dash attack to perform an up smash. I'm not really sure what's not clear about this. Aidan the Gamer 13:43, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

There are characters who can DACUS in SSB4 and perform in a slide by doing so, as I linked in that video above, if you bothered looking at it. Anyone can DACUS, but only some characters actually benefit from it. The ones who don't aren't worth mentioning because them performing a DACUS basically results in a sliding up smash. Scr7(talk · contribs) 13:57, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

Melee DACUS

Sometimes, when I've played with Sheik in Melee, there has been the rare occurance in which I can perform a DACUS. Granted, it doesn't slide, and I'm sure there's more to it than just Sheik, but should this at least be worth mentioning? Aidan the Gamer 21:32, 2 November 2014 (EST)

No, you're mistaken. The physics of Melee do not allow a dash attack's animation to be cancelled into an up smash, therefore the DACUS does not exist in said game. Scr7(talk · contribs) 14:27, 3 November 2014 (EST)

Melee DACUS is real

Ok, at first, I thought it was just Sheik, but this time, I'm sure of it. DACUSing exists in Melee. Granted, it takes some getting used to, and the whole "tap jump" thing gets in the way, but it's there. I just accomplished it with 5 different characters so far, and I'm about to try out the other 21. Aidan the Gamer 17:50, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I'd like to see a video of this if you can provide one. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 18:05, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I would, but A. I don't have a video, I only have what's in front of me, and B. Even if I did have a video on my phone or iPod, I don't have a YouTube account, so I can't upload it there. But I do assure you, I have been able to accomplish a DACUS with the entire Melee cast. You can try it too, if me saying it now isn't enough proof for you. Aidan the Gamer 18:07, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Melee's game engine does not allow dash attacks to be cancelled into anything. You're seeing things. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:34, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I'm definitely canceling my dash attack into my up smash. I know what I'm seeing. Aidan the Gamer 18:37, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Again, Melee's doesn't allow dash attacks to be cancelled. The fact that you can't show proof as well still means nothing. Dots (talk) The Donkey Kong 18:39, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Are you sure you're not just not inputting the dash attack and doing a jump canceled up smash instead? --Timson622222 (talk) 18:41, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I apologize for lack of video proof, but I can't make a YouTube account because I...have a stalker after me. The best proof I have as of now is to tell you to perform a DACUS like you would in Brawl, except do it with Melee running.

And yes, I'm sure I'm not doing a jump canceled up smash. Aidan the Gamer 18:49, 9 November 2014 (EST)

...That is a jump-canceled up smash. If you run and input an up smash with the control stick + A, you are canceling your tap jump, and you slide slightly while your momentum is stopped. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:51, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Pro Melee player here. DACUS does not exist in Melee.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 19:36, 9 November 2014 (EST)

DACUS in 1.0.4

I have been able to pull off a DACUS several times in 1.0.4, and I add that to the page, and it gets deleted. DACUSes are possible in 1.0.4, but no one seems to believe me. Can someone please back me up? Aidan the Gamer 12:50, 20 November 2014 (EST)

The SmashBoards thread says: "DACUS removed (to clarify: this is NOT a Usmash while running which is still possible)". At this point I would trust them. Toomai Glittershine The Bold 13:07, 20 November 2014 (EST)

So it's basically a sliding up smash, except without the sliding? Aidan the Gamer 13:08, 20 November 2014 (EST)

The technique is incorrectly named

The proper name is "Dash attack cancel up smash" Dash attack canceled up smash implies an up smash is being canceled with a dash attack. Dotdotdot (talk) 11:29, 24 November 2018 (EST)

I'd argue that the wording implies the opposite - the dash attack is being cancelled with an up smash. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 11:42, 24 November 2018 (EST)