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===Most historically significant players===
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At the beginning of ''Ultimate's'' lifespan, Pit was seen as a character who had improved significantly from ''SSB4'', with the universal increased mobility, landing lag reduction on all aerials, and new KO moves fixing many of his core problems from the previous game. However, Pit's representation in the current stage of ''Ultimate'' has significantly dwindled due to how straightforward he is: professional players believe Pit lacks an explosive factor in his kit, especially when compared to the cast (most of which gained significant game-changing buffs). Even characters considered less viable than him, such as {{SSBU|Little Mac}} and {{SSBU|Isabelle}}, showcase more polarized but notable strengths, while Pit was deemed as fundamentals-based, low-reward fighter. This has perpetuated his archetype as an "honest" character with average capabilities all around. Due to this, professionals such as {{Sm|Mew2King}}, {{Sm|Samsora}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|Armada}} have labeled Pit as a low tier (or even bottom tier, in Mew2King's case, due to other characters outshining him, and his Echo Fighter, {{SSBU|Dark Pit}}).
''See also: [[:Category:Pit players (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Dark Pit players (SSBU)]]''


Changes as of patch 8.0 have yielded a wind of optimism in the character, considering {{Sm|Marss}} and {{Sm|Dabuz}} have speculated high tier status, the latter of whom expressing interest in using Pit in a serious manner. Without a stronger playerbase, however, it is debatable where Pit's viability truly lies; in the meanwhile dedicated players such as {{Sm|KiraFlax}} and {{Sm|Lucky|p=Germany}} continue to achieve great results with Pit. After a while, however, Kiraflax has mostly stopped playing the game in turn of content creation and plays R.O.B. more than Pit. Steadily, there are more players in the competitive scene that are getting results, Like {{Sm|Oración}}, {{Sm|RaZe}} and others.
*{{Sm|Lucky|Germany|p=Germany|c1=Dark Pit|c2=Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit and Dark Pit player in the early metagame prior to dropping them. Placed 4th at {{Trn|Smashwick 4}}, 7th at both {{Trn|DoKomi 2019}} and {{Trn|Calyptus Cup X: Purple Age}}, 17th at {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Tarik}}, {{Sm|Streakz}}, and {{Sm|Longo}}. Ranked 38th on the [[European Smash Rankings]] in 2020.
*{{Sm|Midorun|Japan|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - One of the best Pit players in Japan in the post-pandemic metagame. His breakout event was {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}}, where he defeated {{Sm|Eim}} en route to a 25th-place finish. Since then, he has placed well at many other large events, including 13th at {{Trn|UltCore Third}} &mdash; the highest Pit performance at a major not by Zackray &mdash; and 25th at both {{Trn|Seibugeki 14}} and {{Trn|DELTA 7}}, in addition to wins over players such as {{Sm|Shuton}} at {{Trn|Kyokkan 9}} and {{Sm|M0tsunabE}} at {{Trn|Shibuya BeeSmash BIG 3}}.
*{{Sm|Tet.|Japan|c1=Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit player in the world before Zackray, first debuting in the offline metagame during the [[COVID-19 pandemic]]. He first broke out onto the scene by placing 13th at the [[Tournament:Kagaribi|first Kagaribi]], and eventually achieved some of the best Pit results in the early years of the post-pandemic metagame, including placing 25th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 3}}, {{Trn|Kagaribi 7}}, and {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 11}}. Even after Zackray picked up the Pits, he remained one of the best Pit players in Japan, including placing 17th at {{Trn|Smash Awesome!}} and defeating {{Sm|Akakikusu}} at {{Trn|Suma O ADVANCE 2}} and {{Sm|Neo|p=Japan}} at {{Trn|Kagaribi 11}}.
*{{Sm|Zackray|Japan|c1=Pit|c2=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Picked up the Pits in 2023 and is by far the greatest Pit player of all time, greatly contributing to the Pits' rise on the tier list and achieving results and performances that no other Pit players have ever been able to achieve. These achievements include becoming the only Pit player to ever place top 8 at a major, notably placing 3rd at both {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}} and {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}} and 4th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 12}} using only or primarily the Pits, and becoming the only Pit player to ever rank in the top 100 globally. In addition, he notably took his only set off {{Sm|Sparg0}} with Pit, doing so at {{Trn|The Throne II}}.


===Most historically significant players===
===Tier placement and history===
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Due to having minor differences, most Pit players also play Dark Pit, and vice-versa. As such, the two characters have virtually the same playerbase.


''Numbers in parentheses denote a smasher's placement on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]], which recognizes the top 50 players in the world in [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]] from July 13th, 2019 to December 15th, 2019.''
In early ''Ultimate'', many players believed Pit and Dark Pit were improved significantly from their incarnations in ''SSB4'', with the universal increased mobility, landing lag reduction on all aerials, and new KO moves fixing many of their core problems from the previous game. However, their representation remained small due to how straightforward the characters were: professional players believed Pit and Dark Pit lacked an explosive factor in their kits, especially when compared to the rest of the cast, leading to the archetype that they were "honest" characters with average capabilities all around. Although there were some solid performances from players such as {{Sm|Lucky|p=Germany}} and {{Sm|RaZe|g=SSBU}}, the Pits were widely considered mid tier at best. This reputation remained largely the same for the following few years, and although many old Pit players eventually dropped either or both of the characters, newer Pit players were able to take their place, such as {{Sm|Tet.}} and {{Sm|Nata}}. Without much change in their metagames during this time, the Pits were ranked 52nd on the first tier list as an upper-mid tier.


''See also: [[:Category:Pit professionals (SSBU)]]; [[:Category:Dark Pit professionals (SSBU)]]''
Around the time of the first tier list, {{Sm|Zackray}} began playing the Pits. Although he never won a major with the two characters, he was able to push them to heights never seen before, regularly placing top 8 at large Japanese events, especially in the {{Trn|Kagaribi|series}} series. These strong performances, as well as other noteworthy performances from Japanese players, led many to notice how effective their options and movesets are when used in the right hands. As such, many players re-evaluated their opinions on the Pits, leading them to rise eleven spots to 41st on the second tier list, one of the largest rises out of any character between the first and second tier lists. They then rose one spot to 40th on the third tier list.
*{{Sm|Ichigo|New Zealand|c1=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Dark Pit in New Zealand. Offline, placed 2nd at {{Trn|Biggie III}} and {{Trn|Docked & Loaded}} with multiple wins {{Sm|Aluf}}. Online placed 3rd at the {{Trn|SWT: Oceania Ultimate Online Qualifier}} with wins over {{Sm|Fryd Ryce}} and {{Sm|Poppt1}}.  Currently ranked 2nd on the [[New Zealand Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|KiraFlax|United States|c1=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Co-mains {{SSBU|Dark Pit}} and {{SSBU|R.O.B.}} and is one of the best Dark Pit players in the world. Placed 3rd at {{Trn|SIEGE 2019}}, 5th at {{Trn|2GG: SoCal Chronicles 2020}}, 9th at {{Trn|DreamHack Anaheim 2020}}, 17th at {{Trn|Thunder Smash 3: Clash of the Pandas}} and 25th at {{Trn|2GG: SwitchFest 2019}} with wins over players like {{Sm|SweetT}} and {{Sm|Slither2Hunter}}. Currently ranked 15th on the [[SoCal Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Len|Canada|c1=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Placed 3rd at {{Trn|The Pinnacle 2018}}, 17th at {{Trn|The Pinnacle 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Play With Heart}} with wins over players like {{Sm|Alphicans}}, {{Sm|Big D}}, and {{Sm|Pandarian}}.
*{{Sm|Lucky|Germany|p=Germany|c1=Dark Pit|c2=Pit|g=SSBU}} - The best Pit player in the world. Placed 4th at {{Trn|Smashwick 4}}, 7th at both {{Trn|DoKomi 2019}} and {{Trn|Calyptus Cup X: Purple Age}}, 17th at {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}} with wins over {{Sm|cyve}}, {{Sm|Longo}}, and {{Sm|Yass}}. Currently ranked 38th on the [[European Smash Rankings]].
*{{Sm|RaZe|Australia|c1=Dark Pit|g=SSBU}} - Co-mains Link and is one of the best Dark Pit players in the world. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Big Cheese 2}} and {{Trn|Melbourne Esports Open}}, 9th at {{Trn|Phantom 2020}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Battle Arena Melbourne 11}}. Online placed 2nd at {{Trn|SWT: Oceania Ultimate Online Qualifier}}. Currently an honorary mention on the [[Australian Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Tet.|Japan|c1=Pit|g=SSBU}} - Placed 13th at {{Trn|Kagaribi}} and 25th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 3}} with wins over players like {{Sm|chicken}}, {{Sm|takera}}, and {{Sm|Tarakotori}}. Online, placed 3rd at both [https://smashmate.net/tournament/3727/ Tamisuma SP 207] and [https://smashmate.net/tournament/5532/ Tamisuma SP 271] and 5th at [https://smashmate.net/tournament/5286/ Tamisuma SP 265]. Previously ranked 40th in the [https://smashmate.net/record/36/ 13th] [[Smashmate]] SP season.

Latest revision as of 19:15, March 8, 2025

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Most historically significant players

See also: Category:Pit players (SSBU); Category:Dark Pit players (SSBU)

Tier placement and history

Due to having minor differences, most Pit players also play Dark Pit, and vice-versa. As such, the two characters have virtually the same playerbase.

In early Ultimate, many players believed Pit and Dark Pit were improved significantly from their incarnations in SSB4, with the universal increased mobility, landing lag reduction on all aerials, and new KO moves fixing many of their core problems from the previous game. However, their representation remained small due to how straightforward the characters were: professional players believed Pit and Dark Pit lacked an explosive factor in their kits, especially when compared to the rest of the cast, leading to the archetype that they were "honest" characters with average capabilities all around. Although there were some solid performances from players such as Lucky and RaZe, the Pits were widely considered mid tier at best. This reputation remained largely the same for the following few years, and although many old Pit players eventually dropped either or both of the characters, newer Pit players were able to take their place, such as Tet. and Nata. Without much change in their metagames during this time, the Pits were ranked 52nd on the first tier list as an upper-mid tier.

Around the time of the first tier list, Zackray began playing the Pits. Although he never won a major with the two characters, he was able to push them to heights never seen before, regularly placing top 8 at large Japanese events, especially in the Kagaribi series. These strong performances, as well as other noteworthy performances from Japanese players, led many to notice how effective their options and movesets are when used in the right hands. As such, many players re-evaluated their opinions on the Pits, leading them to rise eleven spots to 41st on the second tier list, one of the largest rises out of any character between the first and second tier lists. They then rose one spot to 40th on the third tier list.