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#'''Support''' [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 15:15, 6 November 2016 (EST) | #'''Support''' [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 15:15, 6 November 2016 (EST) | ||
===Neutral=== | ===Neutral=== | ||
# | #'''Neutral''' - See the comments section for more details. <b>-- [[File:Yellow sig.png|16px]] [[User:Yellow|<span style="color:#000;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #CCCC00;">Yellow</span>]] [[User talk:Yellow|<span style="color:#006400;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #9ACD32;">of the Grove</span>]]</b> 03:43, 8 November 2016 (EST) | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
#'''Still a major oppose''' Ultimately, I still see no reason to fix what isn't broken. There's a lot of factors here, but the main one is that we barely ever get anyone on the IRC to begin with. I mean, if we did move to Discord, there is a chance we'd get more people, but one thing I feel is necessary to point out is that Serpent King at one point tried to put together a SmashWiki Discord and that fell through. What it boils down to, quoting something Toomai said one time, all the arguments boil down to are "Discord is new and improved" while "the IRC is well-established and popular". New doesn't always mean better, and, as someone who uses Discord, I still don't think Discord's good enough for a new SW IRC yet. It's getting close to what I'd prefer it to be, but it may still take another year. Maybe more, maybe less. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:29, 6 November 2016 (EST) | #'''Still a major oppose''' Ultimately, I still see no reason to fix what isn't broken. There's a lot of factors here, but the main one is that we barely ever get anyone on the IRC to begin with. I mean, if we did move to Discord, there is a chance we'd get more people, but one thing I feel is necessary to point out is that Serpent King at one point tried to put together a SmashWiki Discord and that fell through. What it boils down to, quoting something Toomai said one time, all the arguments boil down to are "Discord is new and improved" while "the IRC is well-established and popular". New doesn't always mean better, and, as someone who uses Discord, I still don't think Discord's good enough for a new SW IRC yet. It's getting close to what I'd prefer it to be, but it may still take another year. Maybe more, maybe less. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:29, 6 November 2016 (EST) | ||
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::What I'm meaning is that we did have a few people using it, and while it was used for a while, it's ultimately died and has been dead for a couple months now. Those who used it just came right back to the current IRC. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:55, 6 November 2016 (EST) | ::What I'm meaning is that we did have a few people using it, and while it was used for a while, it's ultimately died and has been dead for a couple months now. Those who used it just came right back to the current IRC. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:55, 6 November 2016 (EST) | ||
:::The reason I didn't advertise it, by the way, is because Toomai wasn't sure about using it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:13, 6 November 2016 (EST) | :::The reason I didn't advertise it, by the way, is because Toomai wasn't sure about using it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:13, 6 November 2016 (EST) | ||
*Why do the IRC and Discord have to be mutually exclusive? We can keep both around for now, and they can serve different purposes. IRC can be a casual, general chat that's easy to log and access (and we could even link it to a general chat on Discord through an IRC bridge bot if need be), and Discord can be for more specialized discussions. Just my two cents. If at some point we decide to make a full move, I wouldn't mind that, but this whole dichotomy of "should we have one over the other '''immediately'''" just kind of irks me. <b>-- [[File:Yellow sig.png|16px]] [[User:Yellow|<span style="color:#000;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #CCCC00;">Yellow</span>]] [[User talk:Yellow|<span style="color:#006400;text-shadow: 1px 2px 3px #9ACD32;">of the Grove</span>]]</b> 03:43, 8 November 2016 (EST) |