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Okay, so I don't think any of the voters in SBR would say Ike was nerfed because I see no logic to believe that he was nerfed. His nerfs do not counter his buffs. He is better relative to the rest of the cast. Just because there is a separation does not mean that SmashBoards officially would call E tier "low-mid tier". Instead, it is more accurate to say he is in the lower half of the mid tier. Everyone agrees he's buffed but now that they made this tier list, you, Nightgengle are trying to say Ike is a worse character than he was in ''Brawl'' where before I am over 90% sure you would have said he was buffed. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:18, 5 February 2016 (EST)
Okay, so I don't think any of the voters in SBR would say Ike was nerfed because I see no logic to believe that he was nerfed. His nerfs do not counter his buffs. He is better relative to the rest of the cast. Just because there is a separation does not mean that SmashBoards officially would call E tier "low-mid tier". Instead, it is more accurate to say he is in the lower half of the mid tier. Everyone agrees he's buffed but now that they made this tier list, you, Nightgengle are trying to say Ike is a worse character than he was in ''Brawl'' where before I am over 90% sure you would have said he was buffed. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:18, 5 February 2016 (EST)
:No, he's not better relative to the rest of the cast. He's better relative to himself. The reason he's lower on the tier list (low-mid instead of mid) is because there are more people who are better than him. But he himself is not worse than he was in Brawl - he's just worse than Sheik, ZSS, etc. are now. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:21, 5 February 2016 (EST)
:No, he's not better relative to the rest of the cast. He's better relative to himself. The reason he's lower on the tier list (low-mid instead of mid) is because there are more people who are better than him. But he himself is not worse than he was in Brawl - he's just worse than Sheik, ZSS, etc. are now. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:21, 5 February 2016 (EST)
::SSB4 is probably the most balanced smash game, way more than Brawl. Ike is ranked above average. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:25, 5 February 2016 (EST)
:::His ranking doesn't really tell whether or not he was buffed/nerfed though. You can't compare him to the rest of the cast to see how much better he was, because the cast has changed as much if not more than he has. You have to compare him to his Brawl counterpart. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:27, 5 February 2016 (EST)
::::Well, if you compare him to his Brawl counterpart, as of 1.1.4 he is better, right? Saying he is nerfed sounds like he is worse compared to his Brawl counterpart. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:38, 5 February 2016 (EST)
== Transcendent-less Airs hurt Approach? ==
How? I thought aerials can't collide/clash with other attacks, and adding transcendent priority simply prevents aerials from cancelling out projectiles? All I've been aware of is that transcendent hurts Ganondorf's down air. [[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 03:11, 24 February 2016 (EST)
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