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 :The obviously fake Ravio video has received more attention than this. I don't think it should be on the page if fake. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:40, 13 December 2015 (EST)
 :Man, how I wish this were true. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]]  [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 19:45, 13 December 2015 (EST)
+::The last picture with Wolf has some shading issues, these things aren't too hard to fake. I wouldn't put too much stock into it... Like at all. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 11:24, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+:::Also what really debunks this is that the Paper Mario stage is ripped straight from the 3DS version, so yeah. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 11:28, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+::::I've taken the time to take a good look at this leak myself.
+::::#Wolf's picture does have a shadow, but it's barely noticable.
+::::#The render for Paper Mario (the stage) has terrible lighting, and I don't think it's legitimate.
+::::#In the image with Wolf, Paper Mario, and Mega Man, there's a shadow behind all three images, despite there being no "Ready to Fight!" option (something not seen in the actual game).
+::::[[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Jolly Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig2.png|20px]] 11:53, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+:::::Also about Paper Mario, he was probably chosen due to how easy he would be to fake, notice the simple shapes and similarities to previous artwork, mainly from this picture,
+https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjYscmV7NvJAhXGHT4KHfvkBa8QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.the-nextlevel.com%2Fmedia%2Fscreens%2Fgcn%2Fpaper-mario-the-thousand-year-door%2F&psig=AFQjCNH3QCuqVvDYehQH1CsarWC6f-5JaQ&ust=1450199459420387
+Not to mention, due to the scale of Xenoblade Chronicles X, a stage would be extremely easy to fake, just take a snapshot, photoshop the characters out of it, and bingo, "LEAK". Not to mention that the image for Midgar was taken from a previous screenshot shown along with Cloud's reveal. Wolf was also probably made based off of a fanmade image using his Brawl model, but was heavily photoshopped to look like his appearance in SFZ. And finally the shading on the lines on the CSS are thinner compared to how they previously were. With all this in mind, it's pretty much fake, although the amount of detail is impressive, these things are easy to fake if enough time is taken. Stay away from leaks kids. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 12:18, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+::::::And that's how the cookie crumbles, it's been confirmed fake by the OP, who was involved with the Dr. Mario leak. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 12:22, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+<small>(Reset indent) </small> I knew it was a fake... [[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Jolly Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig2.png|20px]] 12:23, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+:So did I (And I'm sure most of us here) but I feel it's good to be on the same page. Also there was no One Winged Angel. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 12:45, 14 December 2015 (EST)
+== Cleaning out the page ==
+Okay, I'm about to get started on cleaning this page out to be only notable rumors, so I'm going to ask for the community's opinions on the rumors I'm unsure about:
+'''Lucas replacing Ness''': Given that this was officially confirmed, do we really need it listed here?
+'''Radio interview''': Quick google search gives no results except SmashWiki- keeping in mind that this is old and Google might have just bumped out all of the results, can someone who was around the fandom during Brawl confirm whether or not this was widespread?
+'''Clone removal''': Kind of a combination of the two above. Also, removal of clones was assumed a lot during Smash 4's production too, and most people will probably expect it in Sma5h. Everyone seems to assume they're being removed no matter what, so I don't know how notable this really is.
+'''Third third-party''': Not actually planning on removing the section itself, but can it be shortened and the subsections removed and replaced with a single sentence reading "Mega Man, Geno, Leon S. Kennedy, and a second Sonic the Hedgehog character were all brought up as possibilities", maybe with a couple extra notes on the ones that had high amounts of evidence backing them up like Leon?
+'''Namco worker''': I've heard about all of the SSB4 rumors except this one (and Lucina, see below for it though), so I'm a little doubtful on it. Was it really widespread?
+'''Lucina rumor''': I know that it's been covered this one wasn't widespread and is only being kept because it showed how high-tech rumors can be, but given that Omni's Rayman was more widespread and covers the same thing, can we remove it now?
+Please respond ASAP so I can get this cleanup started! <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  19:56, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+:Personally, I don't think we should have this page at all. It's more trouble than it's worth, but since I know I won't be convincing anyone: I would say that Lucas replacing Ness, clone removal, and Lucina rumor should go. I don't know anything about a the radio interview one. Namco should stay though. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:04, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+::If we delete it I'll probably just userspace it for my own benefit. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:59, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+:::IMO we should keep it, but trim it to only the ones that really received major coverage (e.g. Artsy Omni's Rayman). A lot of this page is extraneous. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:01, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+::::That's what I'm trying to help with. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:09, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+The rumor of Lucas replacing Ness was only confirmed for Melee AFAIK and is still well-known even today. The others should go IMO. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 22:28, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+:It's kind of hard for Lucas to replace Ness when they're both in the other 2 games though (the rumor, as I recall, did not originate until Melee, so SSB is not relevant here). <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:32, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+::I mean in references to the pre-Brawl days. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 22:35, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+:::Right now it's only listed as a Melee rumor with a small mention of how some people overreacted to the lack of Ness confirmation during Brawl. I'm not sure that type of overreaction makes it worth keeping- it's kind of like the "no more clones" thing. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  22:48, 23 December 2015 (EST)
+Bump. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  13:17, 30 December 2015 (EST)
+If no one else has anything to say, I'll be removing these rumors (except maybe the radio interview and Namco) sometime later today. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  13:19, 4 January 2016 (EST)
+:I wouldn't be so hasty in removing them. The majority of rumors in question were all pretty widespread back in the day. Before Brawl's release, I do particularly remember lots of people claiming that Sakurai was cutting all the clones from the roster (They even referenced this in the old Flash series ''Smash Kingdom''), and I remember hearing about the radio interview back in the day. Personally, what I think is best for the page would be to condense all the "third third-party" sections into one section with sub-points, and remove the Lucina rumor. The Lucina rumor wasn't widespread at all, and Smash Wiki was the only place I ever saw it covered. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:blue">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:blue">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  14:23, 4 January 2016 (EST)
+::My biggest problem with the removal of clones is that it doesn't have anything to back it up like most of the other rumors - it isn't pictures or interviews or anything, it's just false assumptions. It doesn't really fit it, and people will always claim that clones will be removed (if the fact that it happened again for Smash 4 is enough evidence). <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)
+:::The sooner that this cleanout gets done, the better. This talk page needs to be archived soon and we can't do that until this topic resolves. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:55, 25 January 2016 (EST)