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(Why is he not banned...Reshiram got a ban for doing much less, tbh.)
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::Beta isn't and has never been a catchall term, it refers to a specific point in game development before shipping. Prerelease, early, and unused are catchalls. Claiming beta is a catchall for content seen in prerelease screenshots/unused in the game's code is like claiming dubstep is a catchall for all genres of electronica. --[[User:Murabito|Murabito]] ([[User talk:Murabito|talk]]) 13:16, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
::Beta isn't and has never been a catchall term, it refers to a specific point in game development before shipping. Prerelease, early, and unused are catchalls. Claiming beta is a catchall for content seen in prerelease screenshots/unused in the game's code is like claiming dubstep is a catchall for all genres of electronica. --[[User:Murabito|Murabito]] ([[User talk:Murabito|talk]]) 13:16, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
:But it is a catchall term, and simple denial will not change that. If you have nothing better to do than bicker over something that you alone care about, perhaps you should consider refraining from editing for a while. If nothing else, I would have hoped the IP block you received would have been a clear warning for you to stop.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] ([[User talk:Anothrgamer1234|talk]]) 15:27, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
:But it is a catchall term, and simple denial will not change that. If you have nothing better to do than bicker over something that you alone care about, perhaps you should consider refraining from editing for a while. If nothing else, I would have hoped the IP block you received would have been a clear warning for you to stop.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] ([[User talk:Anothrgamer1234|talk]]) 15:27, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
== Marth ==
Marth was planned.
But not a beta element. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]]  [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 20:43, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:Beta element = element that was only present in the beta. While there's evidence that Marth was not planned, even if he was he was not in the beta. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:45, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::We need to seriously reconsider this nomenclature; it's been pretty thoroughly obsolete for a while. "Beta" isn't a good catch-all for "unused data in the game code" or "stuff we know was considered during development". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:00, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::Yeah, it's a pretty specific term for pretty unspecific pages.
:::We could go with Unused elements. That's a nice catchall. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:02, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::Nah, I think we should differentiate the two. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:04, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::::Maybe rename the pages to Unused elements (SSBX) and have a section for ''Planned elements'' and ''Unused elements in game code'' or similar. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:06, 14 December 2015 (EST)
::::::I'd say the terminology is rather easy. Unused is a catchall for anything that was not in the game but was considered/planned/etc. Planned would be something similar to Alph or Chrom, where Sakurai decided on them, had everything laid out for them, but never got around to it. Considered would be something closer to Pac-Man in Brawl, where Sakurai thought about it but almost immediately scrapped it. Then there could be removed or cut, which would be Mewtwo or Roy in Brawl, who were coded and ready to go but scrapped at the last second. (Scrapped could work for that too) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:12, 14 December 2015 (EST)