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 ([[Special:Contributions/Serpent King|contributions]]) [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="font-family:Algerian"> <span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span><span style="font-size:12pt; color:black; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px Gray;">∞</span><span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 20:35, 20 September 2015 (EDT)
 :''Result:'' {{y|16}}{{n|16}}{{n|16}} '''Failed''' It looks to me like you don't understand the purpose of the rollback tool. Your example 1 is clearly reversion of vandalism, but 2 and 3 are both good-faith edits by new users, and from the looks of things you would have used rollback on them simply because they involved more than one edit that you wanted to undo. That's not what rollback is for. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 10:00, 25 September 2015 (EDT)
+===Nutta Butta===
+*[http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Princess_Daisy&diff=prev&oldid=746472 #1]
+*[http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:IronMaidMaryan&diff=prev&oldid=744395 #2]
+*[http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_Super_Smash_Bros._series_characters&diff=prev&oldid=715704 #3]
+([[Special:Contributions/Nutta Butta|contributions]]) <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  12:08, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
+:I'd like for you to explain why #3 should be a rollback and not an undo-with-useful-summary. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Yellow 18:12, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
+::My two cents (even though I'm not Nutta), the user put the information on Pichu for no reason whatsoever, and personally, I'd rollback that one too. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 19:49, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
+:::It felt to me like clearly some form of vandalism, since there has never been any evidence that Pichu was going to be in brawl. I may be wrong though, and looking at Chippy's edits now he/she generally makes good faith edits. That probably is not the best example. Should I look for a replacement example? <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  13:06, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
+::::Okay yes give a replacement example. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 11:44, 3 November 2015 (EST)
+:::::I'll just link it here so that the conversation isn't confusing if I replace it. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Smasher:Mufasa&diff=prev&oldid=750410 This] was the second or third time someone had to add the notability tag back within only a few minutes. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:50, 3 November 2015 (EST)
+::::::...so... <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  11:55, 7 November 2015 (EST)
+:''Result:'' '''Failed''' It is clear to me from your replacement example that you are not ready for the rollback tool. I'll explain why.
+:First, let's look at what happened in your replacement example:
+:*An IP removed a delete-for-notability tag, which had been sitting there for 18 days (i.e. not recent compared to the below edits).
+:*About 2 hours later: You undid the above edit with an edit summary to the tone of "this isn't ready to be removed".
+:*About 2 hours later: The IP removes the delete-for-notability tag while also adding 1.1kB of information (which is currently still on the page).
+:*2 minutes later: You re-added the notability tag with an edit summary to the tone of "okay, yes, good info, but keep the tag on". ''This is the edit you claim would have been acceptable use of rollback.''
+:So, let's say you rollbacked the edit in question instead. This means that you would have replaced the tag and removed the 1.1kB of info with no explanation whatsoever. The IP, who has a history of good-faith contributions to pages other than this one, would look at this and assume you decided that all the stuff he just added as an attempt to prove notability was a waste of time. I think we can agree this is bad overall.
+:So. I asked for another edit you think could have been a rollback, and you provided an edit that cannot be done as a rollback (i.e. selective reversion of an edit with a summary). Therefore, I must conclude you're not ready to have the tool. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Inconceivable 12:32, 7 November 2015 (EST)