SmashWiki talk:Junior administrators (version 3)

Some Clarifications

I mostly made this as a combination of SmashWiki:Junior administrators and SmashWiki:Junior administrators (version 2), both of which failed to pass. I added some questions I need answered before I attempt at getting this approved as a policy, which are in parentheses. Hope this works. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 14:40, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

The same problem is present with this proposal as with the previous proposals to similar effect: the differences between normal admins and junior admins isn't significant enough. The most important, major powers that are used by admins are the abilities to manage blocks, deletions, and protections; however, you assign junior admins all of these. Essentially, there's no reason that anybody would qualify for junior admin under a proposal like this if they wouldn't pass our current RfA system. That's why I continue to oppose a junior admin system. Miles (talk) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Per Miles, as an editor of Bulbapedia as well, I've always been against the idea of the existence of Junior Admins. They just generally feel unnecessary to me, especially if they have virtually the same abilities as admins. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

I actually like this idea for some reason. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 14:49, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

There's still the issue of having the same abilities as an admin however. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:50, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

To be blunt, I agree with the above - however, I'm sure there's a way to figure this out. The way I would do it would be:

• Rather than explicit blocking powers, allow access to a suspended usergroup, which wouls be functionally similar to a block, whereby a user cannot create new pages, nor edit the mainspace, but can still edit any talk page.
• Allowed to hide pages to non-Rb's (if that's a thing on this system, not sure), which would simutaneously act as a non-permanent Delete and Protect.

ScoreCounter 14:50, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Two things. 1. Where can I find a list of powers that various people have? 2. This is very much a work in progress, and is subject to change. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares 14:52, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Then vandals would wnd up vandalizing talk pages. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 14:52, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Per INoMed. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:53, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Sadly accurate. Also, regarding current powers, please refer to Special:UserGroupRights. Miles (talk) 14:53, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, but Talk Pages have zero influence on the frontend, so it's really ineffective vandalism. And I doubt half of them care about Talk Pages anyway. Also, even after looking at that, I'm not sure there is a viewable page blacklist. I know there's a whitelist in MW.ScoreCounter 14:57, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Vandalism's vandalism, I'm afraid. INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 14:58, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Speaking of vandalism, I will say let's try to from now on not complain about it so much and try to quietly deal with them again. I don't think Toomai's impressed by the wall of sentences on his page right now. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:00, 23 October 2015 (EDT)