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My final point: learn how to play high level play before calling a character good. Oh and Aiden, opinions only mean something if they are well founded: when they have facts to back them up. Opinions about Marth being good are not well founded. I haven't seen any argument with the logical depth of mine for Marth being good. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 23:28, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | My final point: learn how to play high level play before calling a character good. Oh and Aiden, opinions only mean something if they are well founded: when they have facts to back them up. Opinions about Marth being good are not well founded. I haven't seen any argument with the logical depth of mine for Marth being good. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 23:28, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
:I will have to agree with your point. I don't see why Marth should be in the mid tier. His nerfed neutral, approach, combos, and punish game prevent him from being a mid, high, and top tier. For instance if i'm right, he can't hit opponent's shield with his forward aerial without getting punished due to its lag. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfl6nFuv9SA ZeRo mentioned about Marth's core problems that made him bad and why the patch buffs did not help Marth to fix his critical problems]. All the patches he received, did not address his worsened approach ability, followup options, punish game, and neutral game. It's good to see that all of his aerials have slightly less lag and improvement to some of his attacks, but it's still not enough. Marth does not have better throw followups and KO setups. To me, this is why I feel that Marth is inferior to Roy in Smash 4. Not only high tiers have both a strong neutral game and a consistent punish game, they also have amazing throw followups, KO setups, and other tools that makes them a high tier characters. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 23:43, 9 August 2015 (EDT) |