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[[User:PokéWorld|PokéWorld]] ([[User talk:PokéWorld|talk]]) 12:15, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
[[User:PokéWorld|PokéWorld]] ([[User talk:PokéWorld|talk]]) 12:15, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
:just wanted to point out that Pikachu vs. C. Falcon is 55% Pikachu+ 40% C. Falcom= 95%????????? {{unsigned|Sederts|17:09, 1 November 2011 (EST)}}
:just wanted to point out that Pikachu vs. C. Falcon is 55% Pikachu+ 40% C. Falcom= 95%????????? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Sederts|Sederts]] ([[User talk:Sederts|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sederts|contribs]]) 17:09, 1 November 2011 (EST)</small>
::Fixed. Also remember to sign your comments with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:37, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
::Fixed. Also remember to sign your comments with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:37, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
::In addition to signing your comments, you should look at the time stamp of the comment you are replying to; this conversation is months old and is outdated. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:42, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
::In addition to signing your comments, you should look at the time stamp of the comment you are replying to; this conversation is months old and is outdated. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:42, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
:::It doesn't matter if the replied to comment was old, what the user stated was still relevant to the article. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 23:50, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
:::It doesn't matter if the replied to comment was old, what the user stated was still relevant to the article. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 23:50, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
::::That said, I still believe that the averages should be placed on the table soon. The Melee and Brawl ones do, yet this one doesn't. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 23:53, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
:::::I '''support''' in turning the table into Brawl like version. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Thousand]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Kick!!!]] [[File:FalcoHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 09:16, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
::::::Yeah when I replied to the user's comment I thought the matchup table had been updated. Obviously that's not the case. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  09:23, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
==How to go about changing the chart==
I'm guessing that it should be the following
0-11: 0/8
12-22: 1/8
23-33: 2/8
34-44: 3/8
45-55: 4/8
56-66: 5/8
67-77: 6/8
78-88: 7/8
89-100: 8/8
Mirror is, well, mirror.
If you think that is a good idea, please tell me. Thanks. [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="purple">'''Melee'''</font><font color="seablue">'''Marth'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="silver">'''01'''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]]
:I '''support'''. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|10]][[Special:Contributions/.....|th]] [[File:MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 19:40, 21 November 2011 (EST)
This isn't for us to decide; matchup chart formats are based on the most recent related topic on SmashBoards. I don't look for them though, so if you see one that's both newer than the current and somewhat active, then post it here. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Celeritous 20:16, 21 November 2011 (EST)
== new matchup chart ==
Greetings, this is KoRo from well the tier list thread. The new list is being compiled by {{sm|Shears}} but at this point is not exactly ready (and won't be for the next several months.) For those who don't know the 64 community, we are relaxed and work rather well slowly. --[[User:KoRoBeNiKi|PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns]] ([[User talk:KoRoBeNiKi|talk]]) 16:11, 20 May 2015 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 15:11, May 20, 2015

As useful as the update is, could we remake it to match the Melee and Brawl versions? Miles (talk) 17:01, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

It's actually not an update; it's the exact same data as Template:SSB64MatchupTable. The only "new" stuff that was put in is the numbers, which don't even mean anything, and various explanations, which could have been put in alongside Template:SSB64MatchupTable and still made sense. So, because this "update" didn't actually change the matchups, I'm going to put back in the template that's consistent with the other two character matchup pages, while keeping the added information. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 17:45, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

Average[edit]

I counted an average matchup. After rounding (and ignoring mirror matchups), it is:

  • As Pikachu - 65:35. Without rouding, it is 65.45(45)
  • As Fox - 59. Without rounding, it is 58.63(63) - that way, the closest with icon is 57.5:42.5 (difference of about 1.13)
  • As Kirby - 56. Without rounding, it is 56.36(36) - closest would be again 57.5:42.5 (difference of about 1.14)
  • As Captain Falcon - 54. Without rounding, it is 53.63(63) - closest would be 52.5:47.5 (difference of about 1.13)
  • As Mario - 55:45. Without rounding, it is 54.54(54)
  • As Yoshi - 49. Without rounding, it is 48.63(63). Closest would be 47.5:52.5 (difference of about 1.13)
  • As Donkey Kong - 47. Without rounding, it is 46.81(81). Closest would be 47.5:52.5 (difference of about 0.69)
  • As Ness - 45:55. Without rounding, it is 45.45(45)
  • As Jigglypuff - 43. Without rounding, it is 43.18(18). Closest would be 42.5:57.5 (difference of about 0.68
  • As Luigi - 44. Without rounding, it is 43.63(63). Closest would be 42.5:57.5 (difference of about 1.13)
  • As Link - 44. Without rounding, it is 44.09(09). Closest would be 45:55 (difference of about 0.91)
  • As Samus - 39. Without rounding, it is 39.09(09). Closest would be 40:60 (difference of about 0.91)
  • Versus Pikachu - 34. Without rounding, it is 34.09(09). Closest would be 35:65 (difference of about 0.91)
  • Versus Fox - 41. Without rounding, it is 41.36(36). Closest would be 42.5:57.5 (difference of about 1.14)
  • Versus Kirby - 44. Without rounding, it is 43.63(63). Closest would be 42.5:57.5 (difference of about 1.13)
  • Versus Captain Falcon - 46. Without rounding, it is 45.90(90). Closest would be 45:55 (difference of about 0.90)
  • Versus Mario - 45:55. Without rounding, it is 45.45(45)
  • Versus Yoshi - 51. Without rounding, it is 51.36(36). Closest would be 52.5:47.5 (difference of about 1.14)
  • Versus Donkey Kong - 53. Without rounding, it is 53.18(18). Closest would be 52.5:47.5 (difference of about 0.68
  • Versus Ness - 55:45. Without rounding, it is 54.54(54)
  • Versus Jigglypuff - 57. Without rounding, it is 56.81(81). Closest would be 57.5:42.5 (difference of about 0.69)
  • Versus Luigi - 56. Without rounding, it is 56.36(36). Closest would be 57.5:42.5 (difference of about 1.14)
  • Versus Link - 56. Without rounding, it is 55.90(90). Closest would be 55:45 (difference of about 0.90)
  • Versus Samus - 61. Without rounding, it is 60.90(90). Closest would be 60:40 (difference of about 0.90)

PokéWorld (talk) 12:15, 21 July 2011 (EDT)

just wanted to point out that Pikachu vs. C. Falcon is 55% Pikachu+ 40% C. Falcom= 95%????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sederts (talkcontribs) 17:09, 1 November 2011 (EST)
Fixed. Also remember to sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:37, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
In addition to signing your comments, you should look at the time stamp of the comment you are replying to; this conversation is months old and is outdated. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 23:42, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
It doesn't matter if the replied to comment was old, what the user stated was still relevant to the article. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:50, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
That said, I still believe that the averages should be placed on the table soon. The Melee and Brawl ones do, yet this one doesn't. ReiDemon 23:53, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
I support in turning the table into Brawl like version. ..... Thousand Kick!!! FalcoHeadSSBB.png 09:16, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
Yeah when I replied to the user's comment I thought the matchup table had been updated. Obviously that's not the case. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 09:23, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

How to go about changing the chart[edit]

I'm guessing that it should be the following

0-11: 0/8

12-22: 1/8

23-33: 2/8

34-44: 3/8

45-55: 4/8

56-66: 5/8

67-77: 6/8

78-88: 7/8

89-100: 8/8

Mirror is, well, mirror.

If you think that is a good idea, please tell me. Thanks. MeleeMarth01 MarthHeadSSBM.png

I support. ..... 10th MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png 19:40, 21 November 2011 (EST)

This isn't for us to decide; matchup chart formats are based on the most recent related topic on SmashBoards. I don't look for them though, so if you see one that's both newer than the current and somewhat active, then post it here. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Celeritous 20:16, 21 November 2011 (EST)

new matchup chart[edit]

Greetings, this is KoRo from well the tier list thread. The new list is being compiled by Shears but at this point is not exactly ready (and won't be for the next several months.) For those who don't know the 64 community, we are relaxed and work rather well slowly. --PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2015 (EDT)