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== Splitting the article == | == Splitting the article == | ||
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they said metanight WILL return --[[User:Reshiram1105|Reshiram1105]] ([[User talk:Reshiram1105|talk]]) 22:23, 8 July 2014 (EDT) | they said metanight WILL return --[[User:Reshiram1105|Reshiram1105]] ([[User talk:Reshiram1105|talk]]) 22:23, 8 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
:Probably shouldn't be replying to 3 month old discussions, additionally, no one has officially said that Meta Knight will return. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]) 22:33, 8 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Tethers removed? == | == Tethers removed? == | ||
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:: Or if it'll be a wall-grapple or a tether recovery. [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 23:56, 9 April 2014 (EDT) | :: Or if it'll be a wall-grapple or a tether recovery. [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 23:56, 9 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::I thought that Smash Wiki wasn't speculative! [[User:Bug Man Stan|Bug Man Stan]] ([[User talk:Bug Man Stan|talk]]) 14:44, 28 April 2014 (EDT) | :::I thought that Smash Wiki wasn't speculative! [[User:Bug Man Stan|Bug Man Stan]] ([[User talk:Bug Man Stan|talk]]) 14:44, 28 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
::::Looks like today's PotD clears up tethers. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; font-size:10pt">[[User:Johnnywellens|<span style="color:forestgreen">JohnnyWellens</span>]]</span> [[Image: SonicHeadSSB4- | ::::Looks like today's PotD clears up tethers. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; font-size:10pt">[[User:Johnnywellens|<span style="color:forestgreen">JohnnyWellens</span>]]</span> [[Image: SonicHeadSSB4-3.png ]] 04:26, 29 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
== Wrong Final Destination picture? == | == Wrong Final Destination picture? == | ||
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:In this case, it would be like referring to Pokémon Green as Pokémon 1 and Pokémon Blue as Pokémon 2. Iteration wise, yes, the 3DS version would be the 4th and the Wii U version would be the fifth, if only because they were released at different times, but the community as a whole prefers referring to both games as just ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', regardless of what Sakurai wants to number them. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 23:47, 29 June 2014 (EDT) | :In this case, it would be like referring to Pokémon Green as Pokémon 1 and Pokémon Blue as Pokémon 2. Iteration wise, yes, the 3DS version would be the 4th and the Wii U version would be the fifth, if only because they were released at different times, but the community as a whole prefers referring to both games as just ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', regardless of what Sakurai wants to number them. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 23:47, 29 June 2014 (EDT) | ||
::Green and Blue are the same game with the only differences being version exclusive Pokémon; we already know these will be significantly more different than that. Really, it should come down to how different they end up being after the Wii U game is released. Until we know more, though, I'd agree that we should keep them as one. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 01:59, 30 June 2014 (EDT) | ::Green and Blue are the same game with the only differences being version exclusive Pokémon; we already know these will be significantly more different than that. Really, it should come down to how different they end up being after the Wii U game is released. Until we know more, though, I'd agree that we should keep them as one. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 01:59, 30 June 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::I thought it was Red and Blue... but back on topic, I'd say keep it as the fourth game in the series. Maybe on their individual pages call them fourth and fifth (probably not), but for the most part, they are #4. [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 15:38, 11 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
== ''Steel Diver'' stage? == | == ''Steel Diver'' stage? == | ||
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::I'm inclined to agree with FirstaLasto here; it does resemble the trophy Diorama mode from Brawl. Unless we see characters standing on the subs, I'm not inclined to assume it's a stage. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 07:21, 3 July 2014 (EDT) | ::I'm inclined to agree with FirstaLasto here; it does resemble the trophy Diorama mode from Brawl. Unless we see characters standing on the subs, I'm not inclined to assume it's a stage. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 07:21, 3 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::It looks a lot like a stage to me. I think it needs mentioned ''somewhere''... [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 11:38, 3 July 2014 (EDT) | :::It looks a lot like a stage to me. I think it needs mentioned ''somewhere''... [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 11:38, 3 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
:I looked it over frame by frame, and it seems like a stage as the red sub seems to be moving at a different angle/speed than the other two. (although it may just be the trophy camera being moved oddly.) [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]) 22:36, 8 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
really its an item --[[User:Reshiram1105|Reshiram1105]] ([[User talk:Reshiram1105|talk]]) 22:20, 8 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::This is unconfirmed, and we should probably leave it alone, as Smash 4 is coming out soon. Finish this up, I need to archive this.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">the</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">lord</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 15:35, 11 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
I think that, since we mentioned the unknown one-player stage ([[Smash Run]]), we should mention this under "unknown" with some mention of it resembling the other things it resembles. [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 15:36, 11 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:What if it's a stage in another mode? Seriously, there is no conclusive evidence that this is a stage.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">the</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">lord</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 17:24, 14 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Introductions vs. Art == | |||
Should we replace the newcomer art with the newcomer introductions? [[File:SSB4 Newcomer Introduction Little Mac.png|thumb|200px|Like this one.]] [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 18:03, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:We should keep it as the newcomer art as is because of consistency. Having the newcomer introduction pictures just doesn't feel like something that should be shown on the page while some veterans, such as Charizard, also received an introduction picture. If newcomer arts were replaced with their introduction pictures, the veteran pictures would also have to be replaced, and it would just disrupt the consistency even more. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 18:15, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::Character artwork. Consistent among all characters and with the other game pages. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:27, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::I think you misunderstood me. I meant in the gallery at the bottom, with the images like this: [[File:Pac-Man Poster.jpg|thumb|250px]] [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 18:28, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::Those have the games' logo on them to show they're official art for the game rather than just the character. That's why those belong on this page at all instead of only on character pages. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:40, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::::Not all of them do, Mega Man, Greninja, and Palutena don't. [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 18:50, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::You still didn't address the consistency issue. That still remains, and it'd be better if all the character arts in the tables for all four games remained consistent in presenting the same artwork style of the character, as it is now. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 19:11, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::::::...none of the other games have either. [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 19:24, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::::And that's why we should keep the character art as is. Be consistent throughout all four games because the first three don't have this option. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 20:03, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::I'm not talking about the table, I'm talking about the ''gallery''. At the bottom. With the images like the one I put as an example (Pac-Man, not Little Mac). Brawl, Melee, and 64 don't have these "posters" nor the "Little Mac Punches In"-type quotes, therefore the only way to be consistent is to remove it altogether. [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 20:39, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::Was in a Dota mode, so my response was pretty messy. The posters were all intended as general character presentations for the series. Mega Man and Greninja show multiple characters, while Palutena's shows both Pit and Link in it. Every poster depicts multiple characters, and belong on the Smash page because, like Miles said, they're art for the game and its characters in general, but they also feature the character. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 20:57, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::::That's a more satisfying response :P Thanks <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nutta Butta|contribs]]) 19:59, July 12, 2014 (CDT)</small> | |||