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:::If that's such a big deal, why do we even put up a tier list in the first place? Why should we ever make a tier list if it's just going to be inaccurate? What matters when you rank the top tier characters is the metagame at the '''present''', the first tier lists do not have to be lasting forever. If people's opinions eventually change, then '''''we change the content of the article''''' to reflect that. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 23:34, 23 January 2015 (EST) | :::If that's such a big deal, why do we even put up a tier list in the first place? Why should we ever make a tier list if it's just going to be inaccurate? What matters when you rank the top tier characters is the metagame at the '''present''', the first tier lists do not have to be lasting forever. If people's opinions eventually change, then '''''we change the content of the article''''' to reflect that. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 23:34, 23 January 2015 (EST) | ||
::::I was using that as an example as to why we can't trust first impressions. It's only been four months since Smash 3DS's release and only two since Smash U's. There haven't even been many big tournaments for them either. This definitely isn't enough time to see what the metagame is gonna be like, hell not too long ago Diddy was considered mid-tier and Bowser top. I want to ask you something though, why do you want this little tidbit in the article so bad? I realize that it's true, but this article is for listing tier lists, not for "who is considered the best". The tiers (as I see them) are like a basic graph of where '''each''' character stands in the metagame. Most people I know use it simply to see where their main is, other people who want a deeper thing just forgo the list since they know the list won't actually teach them anything. Really, putting just the top 5 or 6 doesn't satisfy that. It seems like you're making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be and it's not healthy for the wiki. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 23:55, 23 January 2015 (EST) | ::::I was using that as an example as to why we can't trust first impressions. It's only been four months since Smash 3DS's release and only two since Smash U's. There haven't even been many big tournaments for them either. This definitely isn't enough time to see what the metagame is gonna be like, hell not too long ago Diddy was considered mid-tier and Bowser top. I want to ask you something though, why do you want this little tidbit in the article so bad? I realize that it's true, but this article is for listing tier lists, not for "who is considered the best". The tiers (as I see them) are like a basic graph of where '''each''' character stands in the metagame. Most people I know use it simply to see where their main is, other people who want a deeper thing just forgo the list since they know the list won't actually teach them anything. Really, putting just the top 5 or 6 doesn't satisfy that. It seems like you're making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be and it's not healthy for the wiki. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 23:55, 23 January 2015 (EST) | ||
::::To keep it short and simple, tier lists '''do not''' necessarily measure who's the best character but it is a measurement on how '''all characters do in tournaments'''. It takes time for the complete metagame to be realized, so no, Diddy Kong is not clearly confirmed "the best character" yet, therefore we should not list that fact yet. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Team Fortress 2 00:08, 24 January 2015 (EST) | |||