Forum:The Project M debate: Difference between revisions

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It has come to my attention that this Project M thing is getting pretty big: it already has recognition and equal standing to the three real games on SmashBoards and in tournaments. And now, multiple people are requesting that we do the same here.

===TCP: Yes===

Place your vote here if you would like to see <code>Character (PM)</code> pages that go into just as much depth as those for the real games.

#I would be okay with this. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 13:04, 16 October 2013 (EDT)

#While I'm uneasy about giving some of these characters pages (as Toomai said below, "like Melee but a little bit like Brawl too" isn't very good) some characters (such as the Melee-exclusive veterans, who have character renders) I think are deserving of a separate page, and the metagame is vastly different in Project M from any other game as well, which makes pages slightly more interesting. IIRC there's a separate tier list as well, and that fulfills another part of the article. I would be okay with this, but not particularly saddened if the proposition fails. [[User:Jigglypuff the Magic Dragon|Jigglypuff the Magic Dragon]] ([[User talk:Jigglypuff the Magic Dragon|talk]]) 13:59, 16 October 2013 (EDT)

# With the scope of PM's influence growing, I think it is a necessity to delve in-depth into to the characters, just like with the official games. [[User:Ryxis|Ryxis]] ([[User talk:Ryxis|talk]]) 03:39, 7 November 2013 (EST)

# Yes. P:M has a large number of fans and has large tournaments wherever Melee or Brawl tournaments are happening (mainly Melee). SmashWiki will never be complete, but it is missing a large chunk of the community without P:M. - [[User:Menace13|Menace13]] ([[User talk:Menace13|talk]]) at 22:06, 12 November 2013 (EST).

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#Not necessary at all--[[File:MegadarderySig.png|x20px|link=User:Megadardery]][[User_talk:Megadardery|egadardery]] (<small>[[Special:Contributions/Megadardery|edits]]</small>) 17:06, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

#As I usually do in day-to-day discussions, I feel like it's time for me to come and lay out an often ignored truth that needs more attention. Ask yourself this question: "How long will this wiki last?" In reality, only one thing is certain: longer than Project M. SSB4's release is approaching and, hopefully, the future SSB5 announcement will knock us off our feet once again. One sad day or another, Melee will fall out of popularity and it'll become one of the old classics stored in the back of you messy closet. It would be great to have all our past research documented for the younger generations poking around the new Virtual Console, although Project's M's name and pride will be forgotten forever. I'm confident, that with how strong we've held on until now, that we'll last at least 'till then. One day, you're going to wake up on the wrong side of bed, get onto the wiki, see the confused mess SW:NOT has become, and give up counting the number of spammers pleading for support of their fan-made Smash Brothers game. You're gonna ask yourself why you damn supported so much a strange craze you had as a young adult - a few years in your stupid life and that you could only enjoy if you ever won. As if '''''that''''' ever happened. --[[Special:Contributions/72.53.134.85|72.53.134.85]] 23:22, 8 November 2013 (EST)

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===Subtopic: Allow Project M to have moveset subpages===

'''Note:''' If you voted "No" for individual character pages, do not vote here (your vote here is assumed "No").

====STMS: No====

Place your vote here if you think the effort required to extend the project is not worth it.

#Should the individual character pages notion pass I do NOT want to have to deal with doubling the project workload for minimal gain. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Eggster 12:44, 16 October 2013 (EDT)

#Absolutely no need to go ''/that/'' far. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 13:04, 16 October 2013 (EDT)

===TOI: Yes===

Place your vote here if you would like to see pages for other things that are PM-exclusive, such as stages and techniques.

#I partially support this, at least when it comes to PM-exclusive stages, as I tend to place equal emphasis on stages as I do characters. The non-exclusives could probably work as subsections or gallery images though. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 17:42, 16 October 2013 (EDT)

#Some entirely new things are in Project M like Dracula's castle and Turbo Mode. Some moves have been drastically changed and may need further documentation in the future for example Mewtwo's hovering.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]}[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 09:46, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

Point #3 - I don't think we should always put P:M notes onto pages if it's not important. If it's something new that P:M adds, like input buffer control, there could be a mention of it on a related page that discusses how ''Brawl'' has the 10-frame buffer. However, for spikes, it's already assumed that P:M reverts it back so we don't necessarily need that information. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 00:02, 9 November 2013 (EST)