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== Orange Pit? ==
== Orange Pit? ==
I see a mention of an orange palette for Pit. I'm just wondering when and where this was shown? It wasn't at E3 and I don't remember seeing it in a POTD.--[[User:Raph the Great|Raph the Great]] ([[User talk:Raph the Great|talk]]) 02:38, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
I see a mention of an orange palette for Pit. I'm just wondering when and where this was shown? It wasn't at E3 and I don't remember seeing it in a POTD.--[[User:Raph the Great|Raph the Great]] ([[User talk:Raph the Great|talk]]) 02:38, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
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:::::Actually, I'm starting to believe the black and dark blue costumes are the ''same'' costume. Both have yellow eyes, purple feet, and, if you look closely at the screenshot featuring the black costume, the costume isn't actually black, but rather dark blue (albeit very shaded). [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 16:11, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
:::::Actually, I'm starting to believe the black and dark blue costumes are the ''same'' costume. Both have yellow eyes, purple feet, and, if you look closely at the screenshot featuring the black costume, the costume isn't actually black, but rather dark blue (albeit very shaded). [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 16:11, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
:::::::It has a vague blue tint, but that's true with all blacks on the Wii U (well, not all, but several). That one is very clearly blue. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 16:16, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
:::::::It has a vague blue tint, but that's true with all blacks on the Wii U (well, not all, but several). That one is very clearly blue. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 16:16, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
== Shulk's palette swap references ==
Can't add this with the restriction on edits, but Shulk's palette swaps strongly resemble the default armor colors of the other party members in Xenoblade Chronicles. In order from the Famitsu scan: Shulk, Fiora, Dunban, Reyn, Sharla, Melia, Riki, and the swimsuit. Also, some of the sections in this article are out of order of the scans showing all the palettes. It would probably be easier to read if the order of colors matched the full images. [[User:James4115|James4115]] ([[User talk:James4115|talk]]) 21:18, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
==Meta Knight's Palette Swaps==
It should be pointed out that the "Dark Pink" and "Grey" Palette Swaps of Meta Knight are meant to resemble Galacta Knight and Dark Meta Knight, respectively.
[[User:Fawful117|~Bringing the Chortles to Smash 4! - Fawful117~]] ([[User talk:Fawful117|talk]]) 07:05, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
== Mega's colors ==
All of Mega Man's colors appear to be based on attacks he uses in the game. Along we his default color scheme it is, in order: Rush Coil, Leaf Shield, Metal Blade, Air Shooter, Slash Claw, Flame Sword, and Top Spin. While Top Spin appears pink in the NES game, official artwork and the Genesis remake show that it as being yellow, and given that the Green-and-White palate has yellow elbows that match the Leaf Shield art, it would seem that the art was used as reference. It could be noted that there are other weapons in the series that share the same or similar colors, but for the most part, they seem to be primarily based on the above listed weapons.
[[User:ColorARobot|ColorARobot]] ([[User talk:ColorARobot|talk]]) 14:57, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
On second look, it would appear that the Red-and-Yellow color scheme is based on the Flame Blast given the green highlights. Another case of it resembling the artwork more than the game itself. [[User:ColorARobot|ColorARobot]] ([[User talk:ColorARobot|talk]]) 15:48, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
:Unless I'm mistaken, all of that is mentioned on the page. [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Intermediate Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 18:16, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
::No, because on the page it lists the Blue-and-White palatte as being based on the Gemini Laser, the Red-and-Yellow one being Atomic Fire, and the Black-and-Yellow as being Thunder Beam, and not the ones I listed (Air Shooter, Flame Blast, Top Spin). [[User:ColorARobot|ColorARobot]] ([[User talk:ColorARobot|talk]]) 18:36, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
::After reading back me message I think I might have been a bit unclear. I was saying that his colors seem to be based, specifically, on weapons used as part of his SSB4 moveset, and not on other weapons from the Mega Man series that he does not use in SSB4. [[User:ColorARobot|ColorARobot]] ([[User talk:ColorARobot|talk]]) 18:55, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
==All Hidden Character Palettes==
This youtube video showcases every alt palette in the game, could be used to develop this page. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5L4OuGBog Youtube Video] <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:75.128.71.52|75.128.71.52]] ([[User talk:75.128.71.52|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/75.128.71.52|contribs]]) 17:10, 12 September 2014 (EDT)</small>
Am I allowed to post pictures of the hidden characters' palette swaps here? I just want to make sure that I won't get punished for doing so if I'm not allowed to.--[[User:Raph the Great|Raph the Great]] ([[User talk:Raph the Great|talk]]) 18:19, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
:Anyone can upload anything, (less porn and shit) so, yeah, you can. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 18:51, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
== Duck Hunt ==
Duck Hunt has a palette which makes the dog dark brown/black and the duck blue[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r16HoG92hs] and supposedly another one which makes the dog dark brown and the duck red, reminiscent of Banjo and Kazooie[http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/banjokazooie.jpg]. Could anyone at least add the first one to the page? --[[User:Murabito|Murabito]] ([[User talk:Murabito|talk]]) 10:37, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
==All Palette Swaps==
So...I found [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5L4OuGBog this]. Can someone use this to put more information on Dark Pit, Dr. Mario, Duck Hunt, Wario, Ness, Jigglypuff, R.O.B., and Mr. Game & Watch? [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Intermediate Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 13:03, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
== Ness's Light Blue Shirt ==
Currently, Ness's light blue shirt has no description. The character featured on it is Master Belch, if that helps. [[User:LordOfSwaws|LordOfSwaws]] ([[User talk:LordOfSwaws|talk]]) 21:43, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
== All alts as they appear on the menu ==
Found [http://imgur.com/a/10RXF this] gallery; should these be used to show the alts for the characters that were revealed after the Famitsu scans were made? [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
:It's not bad per se, but the menu images aren't necessarily the best to use. With some characters (e.g. Ganondorf), it's hard to tell what it really looks like in gameplay. They'd be appropriate placeholders, but we should use either the wider menu shots from the Wii U version and/or gameplay images in the long run. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:00, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
It's what we do for the other palette swap pages, why not for this one? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Different 13:05, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
:Only for Melee and Brawl, where the menu shows a much larger portrait of the character. The limited 3DS screen space shows, and makes it harder to get a full view. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:12, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
::We'll just replace the 3DS menu screen images with Wii U ones once we can, no big deal. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 16:13, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
:::I say use it. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 22:04, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
:: A bunch of larger portraits are here in separate images. anyone want to composite them http://imgur.com/a/YxrUP - http://imgur.com/a/5RZpX - http://imgur.com/a/mKMY4 [[User:Allsalts|Allsalts]] ([[User talk:Allsalts|talk]]) 01:19, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm in the process of taking those and stitching them together, I'l upload them all once I'm done. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] El Pollo 10:09, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
I'm currently in the process of adding them. It'll probably take me awhile, so if anyone has a good reason not to, please speak now. Also please refrain from editing it for the next few minutes so I don't have to redo it '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 13:40, 16 September 2014 (EDT)
==Beta Alts?==
In the screenshot currently used for Bowser's yellow color scheme, he has a golden shell, not the purple one shown at E3. Additionally, as i've mentioned before, Kirby's costume is now dark blue even though several older pictures clearly show it as black (this one is more arguable, but still). Is it possible that either the magazine scan or the E3 demo use a beta alt? '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 22:04, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
:The image currently used for Kirby's costumes also seems black to me. I'm gonna compare the colors to see if it's the same, but I think that the magazine might have beta colors. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 16:01, 16 September 2014 (EDT)
== R.O.B.'s alt and StarTropics ==
Given that is blue alt is much more purple this time around, can we go ahead and list it as based on Nav-Com from ''StarTropics''?  [http://www.nindb.net/img/cameo/star-tropics/navcom_th.png] I think it's a lot less questionable than in Brawl. [[Special:Contributions/71.226.144.42|71.226.144.42]] 15:21, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
== Donkey / Diddy / Fox ==
There were a few edits made on the SSBB Palette swap page to make it more accurate. Can we change them here to relfect it? Namely which ones of the Kongs alts actually come from DK64, and that none of Fox's alts come from SFAssault, Adventures, nor James McCloud. [[User:Allsalts|Allsalts]] ([[User talk:Allsalts|talk]]) 01:23, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
== Little Mac's Orange Pallete swap ==
Is a reference to the 2P mode of the wii Punch Out, specificlly the color of the second player
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRc0IRYwltw --[[Special:Contributions/69.204.151.118|69.204.151.118]] 18:29, 23 September 2014 (EDT)
:The colors are reversed though, not sure if that counts. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 18:53, 23 September 2014 (EDT)
::don't understand why it wouldn't count. They have the same gloves and everything is the same if you swap the black and the yellow. The Blue and Yellow costumes don't align 100% to their source costumes yet no one complains that they don't count.
Also, BTW, the white costume has an incorrect source, I noticed. It's not based off of Piston Hondo/Honda, it's more likely based off a quirk (not really a glitch since it's intentional) where Little Mac has white gloves/pants at the beginning and end of matches, along with when enemy boxers were on the floor
Source again: http://youtu.be/GdZOp1bnLzE?t=1m36s --[[Special:Contributions/69.204.151.118|69.204.151.118]] 20:02, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
== Eddie the Yeti ==
Does anyone think D.K.'s white palette swap is based on Eddie the Yeti from the TV show and hispink one is based on Pink D.K. Jr. from Donkey Kong Jr. Math?
[[User:Whitey|Whitey]] ([[User talk:Whitey|talk]]) 12:40, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
:Just because two characters are the same colours doesn't mean they're based off each other. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brazen 12:49, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
Then Bowser's brown costume isn't based on Morton.
And Sheik's Green isn't Saria.
[[User:Whitey|Whitey]] ([[User talk:Whitey|talk]]) 13:13, 27 September 2014 (EDT) 13:12, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
:This page has a ton of selective speculation. It's safer to say a palette swap resembles something than to say it's directly based off of it, or even to say it ''might'' be based off of it. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 20:10, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
Yes!! [[User:Whitey|Whitey]] ([[User talk:Whitey|talk]]) 10:33, 28 September 2014 (EDT)
==R.O.B. Blue and White==
I feel pretty strongly about that R.O.B.'s White/ Light Blue is representative of the Wii. WiiU's color scheme, when taking into account the white version of the console. I originally had it under his Palette swaps, but that and other edits I made to the Palette swaps that I felt were relevant were delted, possibly Rolled back. This Palette swap in particular I feel is accurate, especially since it seems many of his palette swaps are based on the color schemes of various consoles. Please let me know what you think of this addition that I am proposing. [[User:Gpev96|Gpev96 (SHAZAM!)]] ([[User talk:Gpev96|talk]]) 11:46, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
:The only thing that is light blue on the Wii/Wii U are the LED lights, and even then it's not the same blue as seen in the palette swap. And only one of his palette swaps is based off another console: The Virtual Boy. The first two are just based off how R.O.B.s look in Japan and America respectively. The other characters I felt were either irrelevant/not notable or an unlikely reference. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 11:57, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
::To be fair, the Wii U's logo and boxart include white and light blue elements. Not sure that qualifies, but it's not a clear-cut "no" on that one. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:03, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
:I'm just saying that the majority seemed to be based off of hardware colors, and, like Miles noted, it could represent the boxart for the WiiU as well. The Blue and White have been the logo for both of those consoles. [[User:Gpev96|Gpev96 (SHAZAM!)]] ([[User talk:Gpev96|talk]]) 12:38, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
::That's a much darker blue than what's used on R.O.B.'s swap. [http://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/4/48/20130505132736!Wii_U_Logo.svg] [http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/8/8c/R.O.B._Palette_%28SSB4%29.png] [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:31, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
:::It's more about the combination of colors though [[User:Gpev96|Gpev96 (SHAZAM!)]] ([[User talk:Gpev96|talk]]) 13:43, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
::::It's not the right color. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:53, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
==Blue Charizard==
Didn't blue pallete swap of Charizard resemble Zubat/Golbat? (blue skin, purple wings) [[Special:Contributions/80.50.140.58|80.50.140.58]] 06:37, 4 October 2014 (EDT)
== Good enough trivia? ==
Is it notable that ganondorf's palette swap heads show hair color changes that are not in the actual palette swap?[[User:Littlesquirtle|Littlesquirtle, the one who fails slightly less than he used to.]] ([[User talk:Littlesquirtle|talk]]) 11:05, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
:That happened in a lot of previous game's palette swaps (e.g. Gravity Suit Samus' purple helmet icon). {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 11:14, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
So it's not? Reply if so[[User:Littlesquirtle|Littlesquirtle, the one who fails slightly less than he used to.]] ([[User talk:Littlesquirtle|talk]]) 11:25, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
:I'd say it would be interesting Trivia, so go for it!! [[User:Gpev96|Gpev96 (SHAZAM!)]] ([[User talk:Gpev96|talk]]) 12:27, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
::It's not, don't. This happens all the time in the smash series, see Roy's heads in Melee. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:31, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
I see[[User:Littlesquirtle|Littlesquirtle, the Phillip.]] ([[User talk:Littlesquirtle|talk]]) 16:21, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
==Dark Pit Brown==
Different hair color and tan: the dark grey hair and tan with black clothes strongly hint at Magnus resemblance to me. [[User:SleepyRiri|SleepyRiri]] ([[User talk:SleepyRiri|talk]]) 18:33, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
==Bowser Orange==
The fluorescent pink hair tuft sort of resembles Bowletta from Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga.
Guest [[Special:Contributions/101.115.16.66|101.115.16.66]] 02:19, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
==Duck Hunt==
http://www.wildfowl-photography.co.uk/identification/types-of-duck.htm this might help with the Duck Hunt pallete swap. [[User:Lucoshi|Lucoshi]] ([[User talk:Lucoshi|talk]]) 19:34, 12 October 2014 (EDT)
== All Color Palettes in HD ==
http://imgur.com/a/0RQtP#9tMtvwm
Its every single color palette in the game with a full render, so I think these should replace the current ones since they are blurry from the 3DS. [[User:GamerGuy09|GamerGuy09]] ([[User talk:GamerGuy09|talk]]) 15:19, 15 October 2014 (EDT)
:If that was transparent it would be my dream page... :D
:Anyhow. I see no real problem besides transparency. But it would take quite a bit of editing. Anyone? '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 15:24, 15 October 2014 (EDT)
The last time I saw this list, it accidentally had one of the Robins duplicated (yellow), was therefore missing something (pink), and so was turned down (the set's description even says "Pink Haired Female Robin is MIA"). That particular problem seems to have been fixed, but the set as a whole still has some issues in my opinion:
#Size. We have a general rule that images shouldn't be any larger than they need to be, and these certainly push that. They're also of inconsistent size, which may make them a challenge to put together in a cohesive way.
#Mario has the fireball in his set. Personally I think it's a bit jarring, and makes it more obvious that he's being inconsistent in some way.
#Transparency shouldn't be a big deal, but if/when we get extractions of similar quality plus transparency from the Wii U version, these ones will be ousted.
#They're .jpgs. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but it may mean that resizing them will produce artifacts. It's kind of impossible to predict or control.
Now, all that being said, there are a few things that could potentially be done to alleviate these issues. I'll have a look at XL and see if he's capable of lessening the manual workload. As it stands I give it a 50-50 shot that I should be able to at least have a comparison available within say a week. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Engineer 17:13, 15 October 2014 (EDT)
== Blue Shoes Sonic is Classic Sonic. ==
I added this to the page and it got reverted, but [http://imgur.com/FfUrOn8 it looks spot-on to me.] - [[Special:Contributions/82.42.253.53|82.42.253.53]] 05:58, 19 October 2014 (EDT)
:...as the reverter, I stand corrected. Give me a sec, and I'll change it back. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 09:53, 19 October 2014 (EDT)
== Greninja Swaps ==
I'm pretty sure the dark purple one is meant to represent Gengar's color scheme, that evolutionary line has typically been shown in the games and anime to use the move Lick a lot, which is a perfect representation on Greninja. I changed the pink one earlier today to mention is resembles Lickilicky. I don't have an account, sorry.
:Lickilicky is a good match for pink Greninja, yes, but Gengar's purple is far darker than that of Greninja's. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 19:40, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
::That, and Greninja can't normally learn Lick. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 19:42, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
== Side by Side comparisons ==
Fairly comprehensive. gets a few things missed on the wiki. Still being updated.
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2k2jis/smash_alts_origins_v7_pokemon/clhaz1a
** Particular note on the Mario page http://furballcan.tumblr.com/post/98874751769/mario-palette-swap-breakdown for the green color. It comes from wrecking crew's box art instead of being "not luigi" <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Allsalts|Allsalts]] ([[User talk:Allsalts|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Allsalts|contribs]]) 12:02, 26 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
== Takamaru ==
Am I the only one who thinks that Robin's White (male) costume resembles Takamaru, rather than White Mage? This should be noted. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.196|75.141.44.196]] 16:14, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
:Not quite. Takamaru's outfit is entirely white, with a red overcoat; Robin's white costume features him donning brown boots and a cape with red trim. White Mage seems more acceptable.
:--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  16:23, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
::But it does resemble Takamaru, it may not look ''exactly'' like Takamaru, but it resembles him nonetheless. In fact, I actually don't see that as white mage, (and I am a fan of Final Fantasy) so it might as well be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.196|75.141.44.196]] 13:58, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
== Reading too much into it: ZSS/Sheik/Palutena/Lucario ==
Someone mentioned in one of the DK topics that just because a character is a certain color, it does not mean that they are based off of another character of that color. In that light, I don't think the description of green Sheik resembling Saria is what was intended. I think it's just... Sheik. In green. If the sleeves/boots were a darker green or something, then maybe, but as it is not even the shade of green is particularly similar.
Similarly, I don't think the darker blue Zero Suit Samus palette is based on anything in particular either, on the basis that the [http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/File:Zero_Suit.png Samus' Zero Suit at the end of MP2] is probably intended to just be her normal suit, since it still has the pink marks that the normal ZS has and whatnot.
Palutena's black palette too. It's basically just black with gold adornment, which is really nothing like [http://www.kidicaruswiki.org/File:Hades_final.png Hades], who has a lot of red and purple in his color scheme with no gold.
Aaaaand while I'm at it Lucario's lightish blue palette is basically nothing like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Riolu_(Pokémon) Riolu] (any more than [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lucario_(Pokémon) Lucario] already is-- they have the same palette).
I think that's all I got for now. Good work overall, but the above descriptions are reaching just a bit too much.
I feel like Brown Ike, Black Peach, and Cyan Pit are probably based off of other characters/iterations as well, but heck if I know who. I'll look into it a bit more. [[User:Banryu|Banryu]] ([[User talk:Banryu|talk]]) 13:38, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:For some things, like an instance of a character appearing as that color or a fairly clear analogue we can use "Resembles" instead of "Based on" but other stuff like Sheik being Saria is just wrong to me. It's just Green Sheik. Palutena's Black costume isnt hades, nor is Dark Pit's.
:Lucario I would say is Riolu just because yes they have the same palette but Riolu is sometimes depicted as a lighter blue and doesnt have the yellow mid section. That's a case of "Resembles" rather than "Based on"
:Speaking of. Lucario's dark blue looks almost identical to his anime/mega designs. Why are those banned on the page while say Greninja's purple arent. And why is it okay for Greninja's pink to be Lickiliki but not Charizards white to be Aerodactyl? [[User:Allsalts|Allsalts]] ([[User talk:Allsalts|talk]]) 23:07, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::Lucario's [[Palette swap (SSBB)#Lucario|Brawl palette swaps]] had one more closer to Riolu. The one we have now is farther away from that distinction.
::As for Greninja, the pink is based off of Licklicky (or whatever the hell it is) because both have similarities. Tongues and pink color. Saying Charizard's white one is based off of [[bulbapedia:Aerodactyl (Pokémon)|Aerodactyl]] is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 23:18, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::: Lickilicky has a pink body, lighter pink tongue, and yellow accents. Just like Greninja's swap. cool. Aerodactly has a whitish gray body and dull purple wings just like Charizard's swap. No go. How is that more of a stretch? I don't understand the distinction you're making. Especially considering Aero's X and Y sprite, its most recent iteration: http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/142/picdex [[User:Allsalts|Allsalts]] ([[User talk:Allsalts|talk]]) 03:24, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
::::In Generations 4 and 5, Aerodactyl's body is more grey than white. That's probably what I was thinking of. Looking at that, I say go ahead and add it. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 07:09, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:::::Also, how does Charizard's blue coloration resemble Golbat. Sure, the color might be similar, but the rest has no resemblance. Plus, we still have no mention of Aerodactyl yet, and Palutena's blue only resembles Pandora in that they're both blue. Other than that, no similarities. Also, I see Zelda's pink sprite as resembling her Ocarina of Time color scheme, but no mention of that. But why in the world does Greninja's purple color say that it resembles its Shiny colors, when in fact, it doesn't resemble it in any way. This page needs some work to be done. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.196|75.141.44.196]] 14:11, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
::::: Golbat is blue with purple wings. We all know Charizard doesn't actually look like a Golbat. The reasoning on Zelda's pink swap is that its the only one that gives her a blue trim on the embroiderers on the bottom of her dress. The only Zelda's who have blue on the bottom of their dresses are ALttP and ALBW. All others tend to have purple, red, or dull grey gold trims. I'll put in the Aerodactly update. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Allsalts|Allsalts]] ([[User talk:Allsalts|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Allsalts|contribs]]) 21:57, 29 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
==Pikachu's Section==
Isn't this section a bit hard to get around? For example, the "White" palette swap has a reddish Pikachu with a white bandana having blue stripes and a red dot. Couldn't we rename some of the colors or something like that so the pictures and words could relate easier? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 15:46, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:I would '''agree''' renaming the less obvious ones (especially Pikachu's), but not the more obvious ones where you can tell "yep, blue." <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 15:50, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::It took much time and effort to generate the existing simple, unique colour names to each costume for every character. If you want them changed, you'll have to make a fully-fleshed suggestion set, not just a "can we change this". [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Irrepressible 17:45, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::How would I do that? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 11:50, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
::::Post here with what you think each of Pikachu's costumes should be named. As with all other characters, try to keep names to one-word simple colours (red, blue, white), move to more complex colours if necessary (chartreuse, lavender), and only move to non-colours if there's no alternative (see Jigglypuff and Shulk). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 12:17, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
== Find Mii/StreetPass Quest ==
The stage [[Find Mii|Find Mii/StreetPass Quest]] has a mechanic where the [[Dark Emperor]] powers up all characters wearing a particular color at once. Preliminary testing has shown that the color of the costume matters. I assume this is based on the 12 colors you can pick for your Mii (Black, Brown, Light Blue, Blue, Light Green, Green, Pink, Red, Orange, Purple, White, Yellow), like in the game Find Mii/StreetPass Quest. Since this is relevant to costumes, I think it should be listed here. I'm not exactly sure how it should be, but my first thought is to title the colors as whatever Find Mii/StreetPass Quest classifies them as, then add any other necessary note in parentheses after it to distinguish from other costumes from the same character. Of course, it's going to be tricky to start adding this before all of the color groups are established. Note that the game never actually states the color, so it's necessary to pick obvious characters and use them as reference points (Kirby and Yoshi are particularly good for this). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:01, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:Interesting - this would be similar how Brawl's tournament mode uses twelve colours to denote costume (though Brawl has grey instead of a second green). If that's the case, we may be able to wait until the Wii U version comes out - if its tournament mode does the same thing as Brawl's does, we can start by assuming that "tournament mode colour" and "Dark Emperor magic colour" are the same, until a piece of evidence shows up proving otherwise. If the Brawl palette swap page is any indication though, we'll carry on naming costumes with colours that make sense, as opposed to just sticking with what they display, and just noting the game-decided colours in the image and/or text. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 14:32, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
::Hmm, if tournament mode could do that, that would be useful. The reason I thought naming them with the colors from Find Mii/StreetPass Quest would be advantageous is that it would remove the subjectivity (although the parenthetical notes would still be subjective). On your note about the Brawl page though, it doesn't seem to note the tournament mode colors at all, so I'm not sure that that's a fair comparison. I don't really feel that strongly about displaying it in the way I suggested though. Also, I have now realized that you could easily use actual Miis to compare colors against, which each fall into known color groups. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:08, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:::The images on the Melee and Brawl pages have coloured bars beneath each option that show its tournament mode colour. It is true that subjectivity is bad, but I'd argue that confusion is worse - Brawl says that Peach's Daisy costume is "orange" (obviously yellow) while Ike's and Snake's defaults are "light blue/cyan" (nonsensical). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Dispenser 15:13, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
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