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::::Okay... I seriously understand what you're saying, and it does slightly frustrate me as well. But, as has been said, Language, in in itself, what it's speakers make of it. What the page title needs to be is something they will find and understand - practically every other site uses this term, which therefore makes it a form of slang. And, sadly, yes, we have to cater to people who don't do their research, because this is a '''wiki'''. Which means this is where they're doing research. Yes, we do have to cater to the majority. Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 13:23, 18 September 2014 (EDT) | ::::Okay... I seriously understand what you're saying, and it does slightly frustrate me as well. But, as has been said, Language, in in itself, what it's speakers make of it. What the page title needs to be is something they will find and understand - practically every other site uses this term, which therefore makes it a form of slang. And, sadly, yes, we have to cater to people who don't do their research, because this is a '''wiki'''. Which means this is where they're doing research. Yes, we do have to cater to the majority. Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 13:23, 18 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::::Renaming the "beta element" articles to "development history of..." articles and making "beta elements" a redirect is not going to make it harder for a bunch of people who want to find out what the character select menu of Melee looked like earlier in development.[[User:Murabito|Murabito]] ([[User talk:Murabito|talk]]) 13:26, 18 September 2014 (EDT) | :::::Renaming the "beta element" articles to "development history of..." articles and making "beta elements" a redirect is not going to make it harder for a bunch of people who want to find out what the character select menu of Melee looked like earlier in development.[[User:Murabito|Murabito]] ([[User talk:Murabito|talk]]) 13:26, 18 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
:Hold up. Aggressiveness will get you nowhere here; it will only make things worse. When someone disagrees with you, it's not because they're not listening. Please consider what they have to say; if you feel they are wrong, state a valid reason instead of restating your view baselessly. If you cannot discuss this in a civil manner, you may need to take a break for a little while. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 14:27, 18 September 2014 (EDT) | |||