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Was that directed at fyre? I don't think and didn't say I was at any point a smash expert. Assuming you're right, no one would have a problem if I started using the c-stick for all attacks previously performed using A? I'm also assuming I'm naive in thinking that the "big boys" that I watch on youtube simply had near-perfect timing and placement with their attacks? Are they any notable players that you have at least heard use the c-stick? Also, I was mainly talking about air attacks ( primarily f-air's and d-air's). I've been killed quite a bit lately by being f-aired while returning and have been curious as to whether or not they c-stick, considering they seemed to be swinging at me faster than I do at them with my air attacks. Going back to what I said in my first sentence, would it be tolerable for me to use the c-stick with Ness's bat, Bowser and Peach's f-air, or any of Falcon's attacks? --SUDS <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:S U D S|S U D S]] ([[User talk:S U D S|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/S U D S|contribs]]) 16:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)</small> | Was that directed at fyre? I don't think and didn't say I was at any point a smash expert. Assuming you're right, no one would have a problem if I started using the c-stick for all attacks previously performed using A? I'm also assuming I'm naive in thinking that the "big boys" that I watch on youtube simply had near-perfect timing and placement with their attacks? Are they any notable players that you have at least heard use the c-stick? Also, I was mainly talking about air attacks ( primarily f-air's and d-air's). I've been killed quite a bit lately by being f-aired while returning and have been curious as to whether or not they c-stick, considering they seemed to be swinging at me faster than I do at them with my air attacks. Going back to what I said in my first sentence, would it be tolerable for me to use the c-stick with Ness's bat, Bowser and Peach's f-air, or any of Falcon's attacks? --SUDS <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:S U D S|S U D S]] ([[User talk:S U D S|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/S U D S|contribs]]) 16:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)</small> | ||
:No, if it were directed at Fyre, it would've been threaded below her comment and prior to the follow-up question. | :No, if it were directed at Fyre, it would've been threaded below her comment and prior to the follow-up question. | ||
:To follow up, though, the C-stick is very, very widely used by competitive players and I'd be hard pressed to name names because it's far more unusual for a smasher to NOT use the C-stick in most situations. It absolutely applies to aerials as well, and actually opens up a lot of interesting opportunities because it allows you to perform an aerial in one direction while [[DI]]'ing in the other. Something that is extremely challenging, nigh impossible, to perform without the C-stick. It's not necessarily a lot ''faster'' than an aerial with the A button, but it frees you up a bit to establish better control of your character. It's much easier to short-hop and immediately tap the C-stick to the right for a static f-air, whereas using the A button and a directional influence from the analog will likely propel you forward in the air immediately after leaving the ground. Ness's bat is just a smash and Peach and Bowser have f-airs like everybody else, so it's all fair game. Anything that you can make those characters do with the wide variety of controls offered is more than tolerable. *thumbs up* --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 10:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC) | :To follow up, though, the C-stick is very, very widely used by competitive players and I'd be hard pressed to name names because it's far more unusual for a smasher to NOT use the C-stick in most situations. It absolutely applies to aerials as well, and actually opens up a lot of interesting opportunities because it allows you to perform an aerial in one direction while [[DI]]'ing in the other. Something that is extremely challenging, nigh impossible, to perform without the C-stick. It's not necessarily a lot ''faster'' than an aerial with the A button, but it frees you up a bit to establish better control of your character. It's much easier to short-hop and immediately tap the C-stick to the right for a static f-air, whereas using the A button and a directional influence from the analog will likely propel you forward in the air immediately after leaving the ground. Ness's bat is just a smash and Peach and Bowser have f-airs like everybody else, so it's all fair game. Anything that you can make those characters do with the wide variety of controls offered is more than tolerable. *thumbs up* --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 10:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
No way is the C stick cheating. It actually has distinct differences between it and smashing with the A button. The C stick is one frame slower than using A and cannot be charged. The A, on the other hand, can do more knockback (with the charge) and is easier to repeatedly tap. In short, the C stick is just like using X to jump or Y to grab. It's a different mechanism for control that can be used without any form of bad sportsmanship. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] ([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]]) 16:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
HA HA if blatant exploits of the game's physics engine like wavedashing isn't considered cheating then a purposely implemented part of the controller definitely isn't cheating. [[User:Knifeblade|Knifeblade]] ([[User talk:Knifeblade|talk]]) 17:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Har de har. l2play. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 07:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I've mode this thread to a shortened title; it was annoying me to see such a long title.--[[User:Richard1990|Richard]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | |||