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:::::Now to real business. Adding "Notability? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" to the talk page is fairly pointless, as you've already said the exact same thing in the delete tag, except that in the delete tag you actually said it in more detail by providing a link to the notability policy. Also, "Notability? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" doesn't really have the potential to spark a debate, which is the whole point of starting the discussion page. I would like to draw your attention to [[Puckgood|this page]], which I tagged for deletion, and which I immediately followed up with [[Talk:Puckgood|this page]]. That's what I think all deletion proposals should be like, but then again I wrote it, so I am naturally biased.
:::::Now to real business. Adding "Notability? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" to the talk page is fairly pointless, as you've already said the exact same thing in the delete tag, except that in the delete tag you actually said it in more detail by providing a link to the notability policy. Also, "Notability? <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" doesn't really have the potential to spark a debate, which is the whole point of starting the discussion page. I would like to draw your attention to [[Puckgood|this page]], which I tagged for deletion, and which I immediately followed up with [[Talk:Puckgood|this page]]. That's what I think all deletion proposals should be like, but then again I wrote it, so I am naturally biased.
:::::By the way, thanks for the support on my RfR. I think my favourite part of your comment was "plenty intelligent". '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 12:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::By the way, thanks for the support on my RfR. I think my favourite part of your comment was "plenty intelligent". '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 12:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Of course it's pointless, that's sorta the point I was trying to make.  All the addenda say is that you have to post a rationale on the talkpage.  If the sum total of your rationale is "This page is not notable," then that's really all you can write on the talk page or the tag. 
::::::I took a look at the page to which you requested that I turn my attention.  First of all, you don't need any kind of consensus to move a Smasher page into the Smasher namespace; you can simply do it -- with a handful of exceptions for very, very notable smashers like Ken, all Smasher pages belong in the Smasher namespace and should be moved there accordingly.  Second of all, there's really no difference whatsoever between writing "Not notable as per [[SW:NOTE]]" on the tag and writing "I propose that this article be deleted in accordance with the [[SmashWiki:Notability|notability policy]]" on the talk page.  There's some minor semantic difference, perhaps, but the meaning is identical for all practical intents and purposes.  Yes, one represents a formal proposal whereas the other is a declarative statement, but, frankly, it's just as easy to debate the second as the first.  In fact, aside from the fact that you provide a link on the talk page that you don't provide on the tag (and you could have easily put that link on the tag), I fail to see how you've provided a more meaningful rationale on the talk page than on the tag.  It seems to me that the link you've provided is, if anything, an excellent example of why (I suspect) most people would deem creating a talk page unnecessary work; the information you put on the talk page is entirely redundant to the information on the tag.  &ndash; [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 16:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)