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'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. Confirmation of Ness's inclusion in ''Brawl'' was leaked on January 18th, 2008 through a promotional video on the Japanese Wii website about [[sticker]] power ups. He was officially confirmed on February 1st, 2008 on the ''Smash Dojo'' website. He is once again voiced by Makiko Ōmoto, with mostly recycled voice clips from ''Melee'', while providing some new ones.
'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. Confirmation of Ness's inclusion in ''Brawl'' was leaked on January 18th, 2008 through a promotional video on the Japanese Wii website about [[sticker]] power ups. He was officially confirmed on February 1st, 2008 on the ''Smash Dojo'' website.  
 
He is once again voiced by Makiko Ōmoto. Ness' voice clips were re-purposed from the recording sessions for ''Melee'', using returning voice clips alongside previously unused ones.


Ness is currently ranked 26th out of 38 on the [[tier list]], a decent improvement from his placement in ''Melee'', where he was ranked 23rd out of 26 characters. Ness possesses a strong aerial game with very useful [[aerial attack]]s, as well as effective [[tilt]]s, effective [[throw]]s, a projectile with great trapping and damage potential in [[PK Fire]], a versatile projectile capable of very early KOs and [[mindgame]]s in [[PK Thunder]], and multiple powerful, reliable finishers (such as his back throw and back aerial). Ness is greatly hindered, however, by his exploitable recovery, the rather poor [[reach]] in most of his attacks, possessing one of the worst ground games in the game (due to his aforementioned poor range, his almost non-existent approach options on the ground, sluggish mobility and poor smash attacks), and by the 10 additional frames of [[lag]] he suffers when [[grab release]]d, leaving him extremely vulnerable to grab release followups from almost every character, as well as [[infinite]] and zero to death grab release [[chain grab]]s (most infamously from {{SSBB|Marth}} and {{SSBB|Donkey Kong}}). Ness overall has below-average matchups with several [[Counter (matchup)|counters]], and he has had average [[tournament]] results.
Ness is currently ranked 26th out of 38 on the [[tier list]], a decent improvement from his placement in ''Melee'', where he was ranked 23rd out of 26 characters. Ness possesses a strong aerial game with very useful [[aerial attack]]s, as well as effective [[tilt]]s, effective [[throw]]s, a projectile with great trapping and damage potential in [[PK Fire]], a versatile projectile capable of very early KOs and [[mindgame]]s in [[PK Thunder]], and multiple powerful, reliable finishers (such as his back throw and back aerial). Ness is greatly hindered, however, by his exploitable recovery, the rather poor [[reach]] in most of his attacks, possessing one of the worst ground games in the game (due to his aforementioned poor range, his almost non-existent approach options on the ground, sluggish mobility and poor smash attacks), and by the 10 additional frames of [[lag]] he suffers when [[grab release]]d, leaving him extremely vulnerable to grab release followups from almost every character, as well as [[infinite]] and zero to death grab release [[chain grab]]s (most infamously from {{SSBB|Marth}} and {{SSBB|Donkey Kong}}). Ness overall has below-average matchups with several [[Counter (matchup)|counters]], and he has had average [[tournament]] results.
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==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
Ness has received a mix of buffs and nerfs, but given that he was one of the worst characters in ''Melee'', he was noticeably buffed overall in the transition to ''Brawl''. While he has seen relatively few direct changes compared to other characters, he has nevertheless seen improvements. His aerial game has seen noticeable improvements as his aerial mobility has improved, most of his aerials have less landing lag, his forward aerial while weaker connects more reliably making it a more effective spacing tool and his up and down aerials have more range and are overall more effective KO moves due to the changes to ''Brawl'''s mechanics. His recovery, while still poor, is more reliable due to his higher air speed, lower falling speed, and the removal of [[double jump cancel]]ing. A number of moves have stronger knockback; some examples being his up and down aerials, his smash attacks, and [[PK Thunder]] 2. These give him more reliable and stronger KO potential.
Ness has received a mix of buffs and nerfs, but given that he was one of the worst characters in ''Melee'', he was noticeably buffed overall in the transition to ''Brawl''. While he has seen relatively few direct changes compared to other characters, he has nevertheless seen improvements. His aerial game has seen noticeable improvements as his aerial mobility has improved, most of his aerials have less landing lag, his forward aerial while weaker connects more reliably making it a more effective spacing tool and his up and down aerials have more range and are overall more effective KO moves due to the changes to ''Brawl''{{'}}s mechanics. His recovery, while still poor, is more reliable due to his higher air speed, lower falling speed, and the removal of [[double jump cancel]]ing. A number of moves have stronger knockback; some examples being his up and down aerials, his smash attacks, and [[PK Thunder]] 2. These give him more reliable and stronger KO potential.


However, he also received several drastic nerfs that magnify his flaws, the most significant of which being the 10 extra frames added to his grounded grab release animation. This is detrimental for Ness as it makes him vulnerable to inescapable kill confirms and even infinite [[chain grab]]s from some characters. His combo potential is also significantly lower due to the introduction of [[hitstun canceling]], the universally decreased falling speeds and the removal of double jump cancelling. Furthermore, many of his notable buffs have failed to completely alleviate many of his most glaring flaws; his barely improved recovery remains glaringly easy to gimp or edgeguard, while his marginally better overall range is still short relative to the cast, which is exacerbated by the loss of his powerful yo-yo glitch. This, alongside his overall slow mobility, still makes him heavily struggle in approaching most of his opponents. Finally, while his KOing ability is much better than in ''Melee'', Ness still struggles KO foes consistently, as his slightly better smash attacks are still sluggish and somewhat weak compared to the rest of the cast, while his other most powerful KO moves still suffer from his aforementioned poor range.
However, he also received several drastic nerfs that magnify his flaws, the most significant of which being the 10 extra frames added to his grounded grab release animation. This is detrimental for Ness as it makes him vulnerable to inescapable kill confirms and even infinite [[chain grab]]s from some characters. His combo potential is also significantly lower due to the introduction of [[hitstun canceling]], the universally decreased falling speeds and the removal of double jump cancelling. Furthermore, many of his notable buffs have failed to completely alleviate many of his most glaring flaws; his barely improved recovery remains glaringly easy to gimp or edgeguard, while his marginally better overall range is still short relative to the cast, which is exacerbated by the loss of his powerful yo-yo glitch. This, alongside his overall slow mobility, still makes him heavily struggle in approaching most of his opponents. Finally, while his KOing ability is much better than in ''Melee'', Ness still struggles KO foes consistently, as his slightly better smash attacks are still sluggish and somewhat weak compared to the rest of the cast, while his other most powerful KO moves still suffer from his aforementioned poor range.
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===[[Crowd cheer]]===
===[[Crowd cheer]]===
{{Crowd
{| class="wikitable"
|char=Ness
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|game=Brawl
!{{{name|}}}
|desc-us=Ness Ness Ness OOOO!
!Cheer (English)
|desc-jp=Ness Ness Ne-su!
!Cheer (Japanese)
|pitch-us=Group chant
!Cheer (German)
|pitch-jp=Group chant}}
!Cheer (Korean)
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! scope="row"|Cheer
|[[File:Ness Cheer English SSBB.ogg|center]]||[[File:Ness Cheer Japanese SSBB.ogg|center]]||[[File:Ness Cheer German SSBB.ogg|center]]||rowspan="4"|[[File:Ness Cheer Korean SSBB.ogg|center]]
|-
! scope="row"|Description
|Ness - Ness - Ness - OOOO! || Ness - Ness - Ne - ss! || Ness Ness Ness! Jaaaaa!
|-
!{{{name|}}}
!Cheer (French)
!Cheer (Italian)
!Cheer (Spanish)
|-
! scope="row"|Cheer
|[[File:Ness Cheer French SSBB.ogg|center]]||[[File:Ness Cheer Italian SSBB.ogg|center]]||[[File:Ness Cheer Spanish SSBB.ogg|center]]
|-
! scope="row"|Description
|Ness Ness Ness ! Ohhhhh ! || Forza Ness ole ole! || Ne - ss! Eh! Eh! || Ness - Ness - Neeess!
|}


===[[Victory pose]]s===
===[[Victory pose]]s===
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==In [[competitive play]]==
==In [[competitive play]]==
===Notable players===
===Notable players===
:''See also: [[:Category:Ness players (SSBB)]]
:''See also: [[:Category:Ness players (SSBB)]]''
*{{sm|FOW|USA}} - Considered one of the best Ness mains in the world before switching to {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}.
*{{Sm|FOW|USA}} - Considered one of the best Ness mains in the world before switching to {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}.
*{{sm|Fsann|Japan}} - Japan's top Ness player.
*{{Sm|Fsann|Japan}} - Japan's top Ness player.
*{{sm|Shaky|USA}} - Considered the undisputed best Ness following FOW's switch to Meta Knight.
*{{Sm|Shaky|USA}} - Considered the undisputed best Ness following FOW's switch to Meta Knight.
*{{sm|Ness682|USA}} - The current active Ness player online in recent years. Ranked 7 in the Brawl Central Power Ranking. He had also made top 16 solo Ness at Super Smash Con 2023.
*{{Sm|Ness682|USA}} - The current active Ness player online in recent years. Ranked 7 in the Brawl Central Power Ranking. He had also made top 16 solo Ness at Super Smash Con 2023.


===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
Ness' standing in the metagame initially had not changed much, in spite of his buffs in the transition. He was originally seen as a low tier character, lying at 31st. Players at the time immediately noticed the presence of the 10 extra frames to his grab release animation, making him very vulnerable his grab release combos by many characters in the cast, where common characters like {{SSBB|Marth}} could easily exploit such detriments, resulting in his quality-of-life buffs being insufficient to alleviate his most significant problems (most notably his atrocious recovery, his barely improved mobility, range, and KO power and his horrible neutral game), as well as the loss of double jump canceling, the overall slower falling speeds and the ability to act out of hitstun having severely decreased his combo ability. However, he did increase to 27th by the third tier list as new Ness professionals were discovered, and he stayed there for every single tier list in ''Brawl'', until the last one, where he was slightly bolstered by one tier.
Ness' standing in the metagame initially had not changed much, in spite of his buffs in the transition. He was originally seen as a low tier character, lying at 31st. Players at the time immediately noticed the presence of the 10 extra frames to his grab release animation, making him very vulnerable his grab release combos by many characters in the cast, where common characters like {{SSBB|Marth}} could easily exploit such detriments, resulting in his quality-of-life buffs being insufficient to alleviate his most significant problems (most notably his atrocious recovery, his barely improved mobility, range, and KO power and his horrible neutral game), as well as the loss of double jump canceling, the overall slower falling speeds and the ability to act out of hitstun having severely decreased his combo ability. However, he did increase to 27th by the third tier list as new Ness professionals were discovered, and he stayed there for every single tier list in ''Brawl'', until the last one, where he was slightly bolstered by one tier.
However, Ness had heavily struggled throughout the game’s competitive lifespan, as aside from making approaches {{SSBB|Olimar}} difficult, his amplified consequences upon getting punished made it extremely hard for him to approach the rest of the cast.
However, Ness had heavily struggled throughout the game's competitive lifespan, as aside from making approaches {{SSBB|Olimar}} difficult, his amplified consequences upon getting punished made it extremely hard for him to approach the rest of the cast.
 
==Role in [[The Subspace Emissary]]==
[[File:Subspace ness.PNG|thumb|250px|Ness in ''[[SSE]]''.]]
Ness shows up saving {{SSBB|Lucas}} from the giant [[Pig King Statue]], which is soon revealed to be their mutual nemesis, [[Porky Minch]]. Ness and Lucas team up to defeat Porky and his machine. Afterward, {{SSBB|Wario}} attacks him with his [[Dark Cannon]], but Ness successfully dodges each shot. Wario, however, then aims at Lucas, forcing Ness to push Lucas out of harm's way and take the arrow from the Dark Cannon, which turns him into a trophy. As Lucas is too scared to face Wario, he leaves Ness behind as Wario cackles in the rain. Most of Lucas's story in SSE involves getting revenge on Wario and trying to find Ness.
 
As Wario is driving his [[Cargo]] with Ness' and Peach/Zelda's trophies on board, he finds {{SSBB|Luigi}}'s trophy and prepares to take it until he is ambushed by an army of [[Waddle Dee]]s, who throw Luigi's trophy into the cargo, which is stolen by {{SSBB|King Dedede}}. At his hideout, Dedede puts a [[Dedede Badge|badge]] on Luigi's, Ness', and Peach/Zelda's trophies before the roof collapses on them, turning Dedede into a trophy in the process, and {{SSBB|Bowser}} takes Peach/Zelda's trophy. Soon afterward the Ancient Minister detonates a Subspace Bomb that consumes Dedede's castle along with Ness', Luigi's and Dedede's trophies by Subspace.
 
Ness is not seen again until much later in the story, where he and Luigi are revived thanks to the Dedede Badges. Upon inspecting Luigi's badge, he notices that it looks like Dedede, and, assuming that Dedede made them, proceeds to revive him. Upon being revived, King Dedede gives both of them a hug before they team up and rescue Lucas, along with most of the other characters. Kirby, who was revived by the Dedede brooch he swallowed earlier, revives whatever characters that Ness' group did not come across, including Wario. Wario then bashes Dedede in the head as revenge for Dedede stealing his cargo and trophies. He is then surprised to see Ness and Luigi on Dedede's side. They offer to let Wario join them, and he agrees and rides his bike up to the entrance of The Great Maze. Ness, along with {{SSBB|Sonic}} and the other characters team up to defeat [[Tabuu]].
 
===Playable appearances===
Ness was captured by {{SSBB|Wario}} during [[The Ruined Zoo]], and he is brought into {{SSBB|King Dedede}}'s castle after he previously stole Wario's trophy cart. But after [[The Cave]], a Subspace Bomb was detonated near his castle, bringing Ness into Subspace.
 
*[[The Ruined Zoo]]
*[[Subspace (Part I)]]
*[[The Great Maze]]


==In Solo Modes==
==In Solo Modes==
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*'''[[Co-Op Event 21: The True All-Star Battle]]''': Both players select a character and take on the entire roster on {{SSBB|Battlefield}}.
*'''[[Co-Op Event 21: The True All-Star Battle]]''': Both players select a character and take on the entire roster on {{SSBB|Battlefield}}.


===[[Congratulations_screen#Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl|Ending Images]]===
===[[Congratulations_screen#Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl|Congratulations Screens]]===
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==Role in [[The Subspace Emissary]]==
[[File:Subspace ness.PNG|thumb|250px|Ness in ''[[SSE]]''.]]
Ness shows up saving {{SSBB|Lucas}} from the giant [[Pig King Statue]], which is soon revealed to be their mutual nemesis, [[Porky Minch]]. Ness and Lucas team up to defeat Porky and his machine. Afterward, {{SSBB|Wario}} attacks him with his [[Dark Cannon]], but Ness successfully dodges each shot. Wario, however, then aims at Lucas, forcing Ness to push Lucas out of harm's way and take the arrow from the Dark Cannon, which turns him into a trophy. As Lucas is too scared to face Wario, he leaves Ness behind as Wario cackles in the rain. Most of Lucas's story in SSE involves getting revenge on Wario and trying to find Ness.
As Wario is driving his [[Cargo]] with Ness' and Peach/Zelda's trophies on board, he finds {{SSBB|Luigi}}'s trophy and prepares to take it until he is ambushed by an army of [[Waddle Dee]]s, who throw Luigi's trophy into the cargo, which is stolen by {{SSBB|King Dedede}}. At his hideout, Dedede puts a [[Dedede Badge|badge]] on Luigi's, Ness', and Peach/Zelda's trophies before the roof collapses on them, turning Dedede into a trophy in the process, and {{SSBB|Bowser}} takes Peach/Zelda's trophy. Soon afterward the Ancient Minister detonates a Subspace Bomb that consumes Dedede's castle along with Ness', Luigi's and Dedede's trophies by Subspace.
Ness is not seen again until much later in the story, where he and Luigi are revived thanks to the Dedede Badges. Upon inspecting Luigi's badge, he notices that it looks like Dedede, and, assuming that Dedede made them, proceeds to revive him. Upon being revived, King Dedede gives both of them a hug before they team up and rescue Lucas, along with most of the other characters. Kirby, who was revived by the Dedede brooch he swallowed earlier, revives whatever characters that Ness' group did not come across, including Wario. Wario then bashes Dedede in the head as revenge for Dedede stealing his cargo and trophies. He is then surprised to see Ness and Luigi on Dedede's side. They offer to let Wario join them, and he agrees and rides his bike up to the entrance of The Great Maze. Ness, along with {{SSBB|Sonic}} and the other characters team up to defeat [[Tabuu]].
===Playable appearances===
Ness was captured by {{SSBB|Wario}} during [[The Ruined Zoo]], and he is brought into {{SSBB|King Dedede}}'s castle after he previously stole Wario's trophy cart. But after [[The Cave]], a Subspace Bomb was detonated near his castle, bringing Ness into Subspace.
*[[The Ruined Zoo]]
*[[Subspace (Part I)]]
*[[The Great Maze]]
===Exclusive [[sticker]]s===
These stickers can only be used by Ness or Lucas.
*Boney: [PK] Attack +16
*Claus: [PK] Attack +13
*Crazy Redd: [PK] Attack +16
*Devil Car: [PK] Attack +14
*Duster: [Leg] Attack +4
*Flint: [Specials: Indirect] Attack +4
*Hinawa: [Normal] Resistance +4
*Jeff: [PK] Attack +24
*Kumatora: [PK] Attack +11
*Lloyd: [PK] Attack +6
*Lucas: [PK] Attack +13
*Mad Truck: [Normal] Resistance +23
*Magkid: [PK] Attack +9
*Mr. Saturn: [PK] Attack +7
*Ness: [PK] Attack +33
*New Age Retro Hippie: [PK] Attack +11
*Ninten: [PK] Attack +24
*Pigmask: [PK] Attack +7
*Paula: [PK] Attack +10
*Poo: [PK] Attack +9
*Porky: [PK] Attack +15
*Salsa: [PK] Attack +9
*Starman (EarthBound): [PK] Attack +10
*Stork Stop: [PK] Attack +12


==[[Trophies]]==
==[[Trophies]]==
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==Trivia==
==Trivia==
*Ness was briefly considered being cut from ''Brawl'', but ''Mother 3'' only releasing in Japan resulted in both Ness and Lucas being included. <ref>https://twitter.com/pushdustin/status/1626015096781836288</ref>
*Ness was briefly considered being cut from ''Brawl'', but ''Mother 3'' only releasing in Japan resulted in both Ness and Lucas being included.<ref>https://twitter.com/pushdustin/status/1626015096781836288</ref>
*Despite being the first character unlocked through playing Brawls, Ness is one of the last characters unlocked by playing ''The Subspace Emissary''. He is also the first unlockable character to be playable in ''The Subspace Emissary'', despite not joining the player's team until near the end of the game.
*Despite being the first character unlocked through playing Brawls, Ness is one of the last characters unlocked by playing ''The Subspace Emissary''. He is also the first unlockable character to be playable in ''The Subspace Emissary'', despite not joining the player's team until near the end of the game.
*Strangely, Ness has visible teeth during the cutscenes of the Subspace Emissary, but not during the actual gameplay. {{SSBB|Lucas}} has this distinction as well.
*Strangely, Ness has visible teeth during the cutscenes of the Subspace Emissary, but not during the actual gameplay. {{SSBB|Lucas}} has this distinction as well.
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*Ness is the only character to be fought on a [[Melee Stage]] ([[Onett]]) when being unlocked.
*Ness is the only character to be fought on a [[Melee Stage]] ([[Onett]]) when being unlocked.
*Ness is one of the only four unlockable characters to appear in the opening cinematic of ''Brawl''. The three others sharing this attribute are {{SSBB|Marth}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, and {{SSBB|Sonic}}.
*Ness is one of the only four unlockable characters to appear in the opening cinematic of ''Brawl''. The three others sharing this attribute are {{SSBB|Marth}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, and {{SSBB|Sonic}}.
==References==
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