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==Update history== | ==Update history== | ||
Greninja has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates. Update [[1.0.4]] notably nerfed Greninja by lowering the knockback on a handful of its | Greninja has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates. Update [[1.0.4]] notably nerfed Greninja by lowering the knockback on a handful of its moves, and removing the Shadow Sneak glitch that allowed it to cancel the landing lag of its aerials. The most significantly nerfed move, however, was its up smash; initially one of the best anti-airs and smash attacks in the game, by virtue of its huge range and fast interpretability allowing it to more easily beat out aerials and juggle opponents while even comboing into Greninja's own aerials, its ending lag and hitbox sizes were significantly increased and decreased respectively, so it is much harder for Greninja to take full advantage of the move. Greninja's hurtbox size at the top of its head was also increased in 1.0.4, making it easier to hit and rendering its once-decent [[crouch]] nearly useless. However, these nerfs were slightly compensated for as Shadow Sneak was buffed to a degree. Like 1.0.4, [[List of updates (SSB4-3DS)#1.0.5|1.0.5]] removed another exploitable glitch, the running Shadow Sneak glitch. | ||
However, Greninja has also seen some improvements in later updates. [[1.0.8]] noticeably improved its forward tilt's utility for spacing. Update [[1.1.0]] gave Greninja a mix of buffs and nerfs, though the former was more prevalent than the latter. While its down throw's damage output was decreased and Water Shuriken no longer stalls Greninja in the air after a jump, its down throw's ending lag was reduced, while Water Shuriken's startup was decreased, allowing it to camp more effectively. In addition to its ending lag, down throw's damage decrease indirectly improved its combo potential; one notable combo is into forward aerial for a potential KO at high percentages, although it is nevertheless dependent on DI. Update [[1.1.1]] only changed Greninja's Shadow Dash custom, decreasing its ending lag. | However, Greninja has also seen some improvements in later updates. [[1.0.8]] noticeably improved its forward tilt's utility for spacing. Update [[1.1.0]] gave Greninja a mix of buffs and nerfs, though the former was more prevalent than the latter. While its down throw's damage output was decreased and Water Shuriken no longer stalls Greninja in the air after a jump, its down throw's ending lag was reduced, while Water Shuriken's startup was decreased, allowing it to camp more effectively. In addition to its ending lag, down throw's damage decrease indirectly improved its combo potential; one notable combo is into forward aerial for a potential KO at high percentages, although it is nevertheless dependent on DI. Update [[1.1.1]] only changed Greninja's Shadow Dash custom, decreasing its ending lag. | ||
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Update [[1.1.3]] slightly buffed the knockback to Greninja's smash attacks and all variations of Shadow Sneak, which helps compensate for 1.0.4's weakening of its KO potential. Lastly, update [[1.1.5]] decreased dash attack's and standing grab's startup lag, and its forward and back aerials' landing lag. It also considerably improved Hydro Pump's reliability by tweaking its angle to avoid it from "headbonking". | Update [[1.1.3]] slightly buffed the knockback to Greninja's smash attacks and all variations of Shadow Sneak, which helps compensate for 1.0.4's weakening of its KO potential. Lastly, update [[1.1.5]] decreased dash attack's and standing grab's startup lag, and its forward and back aerials' landing lag. It also considerably improved Hydro Pump's reliability by tweaking its angle to avoid it from "headbonking". | ||
Despite popular perception of being heavily nerfed, Greninja fares about the same as he did at launch. | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} [[1.0.4]]''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} [[1.0.4]]''' | ||
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*{{Sm|Some|Japan}} - One of the best Greninja players in Japan. Placed 3rd at {{Trn|Sumabato 4U FINAL}}, 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 26}}, 9th at {{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}, 13th at {{Trn|Umebura 28}}, and 17th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Captain Zack}}, {{Sm|Kameme}}, and {{Sm|Fatality}}. | *{{Sm|Some|Japan}} - One of the best Greninja players in Japan. Placed 3rd at {{Trn|Sumabato 4U FINAL}}, 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 26}}, 9th at {{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}, 13th at {{Trn|Umebura 28}}, and 17th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Captain Zack}}, {{Sm|Kameme}}, and {{Sm|Fatality}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Stroder|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: West Side Saga}}, 17th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: SCR Saga}}, and 33rd at both {{Trn|EVO 2016}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Nairo}}, {{Sm|Elegant}}, and {{Sm|falln}}. Formerly ranked in Area 51 on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]]. | *{{Sm|Stroder|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: West Side Saga}}, 17th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: SCR Saga}}, and 33rd at both {{Trn|EVO 2016}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Nairo}}, {{Sm|Elegant}}, and {{Sm|falln}}. Formerly ranked in Area 51 on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]]. | ||
==In Solo Modes== | |||
===[[All-Star Mode]]=== | |||
In All-Star Mode, Greninja is fought in Stage 7 in the 3DS version or Stage 1 in the Wii U version alongside {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}, {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Corrin}}, and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}. | |||
==={{GameIcon|SSB4-U}}[[Event Match]]es=== | |||
====Solo Events==== | |||
* '''[[Fire-Type Frenzy]]''': As {{SSB4|Charizard}}, the player must defeat Greninja, {{SSB4|Pikachu}} and {{SSB4|Lucario}}. | |||
* '''[[New Challengers 2]]''': Greninja is one of the seven opponents fought in this event alongside {{SSB4|Palutena}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Mega Man}}, and {{SSB4|Pac-Man}}. | |||
* '''{{b|Pokémon Battle|SSB4}}''': Greninja must defeat Pikachu, Charizard, and Lucario. | |||
====Co-op Events==== | |||
* '''[[Pokémon Multi Battle!]]''': Greninja is one of the player's Pokémon to use, as well as being one of the opponents. | |||
* '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. | |||
===[[Congratulations screen]]s=== | |||
<center> | |||
====3DS==== | |||
<gallery> | |||
SSB4-3DS Congratulations Classic Greninja.png|Classic Mode | |||
SSB4-3DS Congratulations All-Star Greninja.png|All-Star Mode | |||
</gallery> | |||
====Wii U==== | |||
<gallery> | |||
SSB4-Wii U Congratulations Classic Greninja.png|Classic Mode | |||
SSB4-Wii U Congratulations All-Star Greninja.png|All-Star Mode | |||
</gallery> | |||
</center> | |||
==[[Trophies]]== | ==[[Trophies]]== | ||
Greninja's default trophy is obtained by clearing Classic Mode as Greninja. Its alternate trophy is obtained by clearing All-Star Mode as Greninja in the 3DS version or purchasing it in the Trophy Shop for 1000G in the Wii U version. The Secret Ninja Attack trophy is obtained only in the Wii U version by clearing All-Star Mode as Greninja. | |||
{{Trophy/Fighter | {{Trophy/Fighter | ||
|name=Greninja | |name=Greninja | ||
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==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Greninja|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Greninja|Alternate costumes]]== | ||