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{{disambig2|Greninja's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''|the character in other contexts|Greninja}} | {{disambig2|Greninja's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''|the character in other contexts|Greninja}} | ||
{{Infobox Character | {{Infobox Character | ||
|name | |name = Greninja | ||
|image | |image = [[File:Greninja SSB4.png|250px]] | ||
|game | |game = SSB4 | ||
|ssbgame1 | |ssbgame1 = SSBU | ||
|availability = [[Starter character|Starter]] | |availability = [[Starter character|Starter]] | ||
|tier = C | |tier = C | ||
|ranking = 26 | |ranking = 26 | ||
}} | }} | ||
:{{cquote|Greninja Makes a Splash!|cite=Introduction Tagline}} | :{{cquote|''Greninja Makes a Splash!''|cite=Introduction Tagline}} | ||
'''Greninja''' ({{ja|ゲッコウガ|Gekkōga}}, '' | '''Greninja''' ({{ja|ゲッコウガ|Gekkōga}}, ''Gekkouga'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. It was revealed during the April 8th, 2014 [[Nintendo Direct|Super Smash Bros. Direct]], alongside fellow ''Pokémon'' fighter {{SSB4|Charizard}}. Greninja is voiced by Billy Bob Thompson in English and Yūji Ueda in Japanese, both having previously voiced {{iw|bulbapedia|Ash's Froakie}} in the ''Pokémon'' anime. Like numerous other Pokémon, it has different voice actors in the French and German versions due to name changes, similarly to {{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}. | ||
Greninja is | Greninja is ranked 26th out of 54 on the [[tier list]], placing it in the C tier. Greninja's greatest strength is its overall mobility: its [[walk]]ing speed, [[dash]]ing speed, [[air speed]], [[jump]] and [[double jump]] are each among the top 10 within their respective categories. It also has an impressive combo game courtesy of a number of moves, most notably its up and down tilts, its neutral and up aerials, and its down throw, all of which are decently fast. Its recovery is also above average, with [[Shadow Sneak]] being able to cover a noticeable amount of horizontal distance, while [[Hydro Pump]] is decently fast and maneuverable like [[Quick Attack]]. | ||
Greninja also boasts a decent projectile in [[Water Shuriken]] and a variable [[counterattack]] in [[Substitute]]. Water Shuriken functions as both a decent approach tool and boasts KO potential when fully charged against highly damaged opponents, while Substitute possesses combo, recovery and mindgame potential due to its unique ability to be aimed in various angles during the counterattack. Lastly, Greninja has some of the best smash attacks in regard to overall utility, with its up smash being one of the strongest in the game. | Greninja also boasts a decent projectile in [[Water Shuriken]] and a variable [[counterattack]] in [[Substitute]]. Water Shuriken functions as both a decent approach tool and boasts KO potential when fully charged against highly damaged opponents, while Substitute possesses combo, recovery and mindgame potential due to its unique ability to be aimed in various angles during the counterattack. Lastly, Greninja has some of the best smash attacks in regard to overall utility, with its up smash being one of the strongest in the game. | ||
Despite these strengths, Greninja has a number of flaws. It has rather high ending lag on many of its attacks (with its aerials being notorious in this regard), requiring Greninja players to know when they can safely use such attacks. Greninja's recovery is also decent at best | Despite these strengths, Greninja has a number of flaws. It has rather high ending lag on many of its attacks (with its aerials being notorious in this regard), requiring Greninja players to know when they can safely use such attacks. Greninja's recovery is also decent at best: while it has a number of good options to choose from, [[Hydro Pump]] and [[Shadow Sneak]] can both be predictable. Furthermore, while Greninja does boast a number of powerful KO moves, they are difficult to sweetspot due to their unusual hitbox placements, and some of them are slow and unsafe to use in a neutral situation. | ||
Overall, Greninja has a fairly high learning curve, but can become a potent character when mastered. As a result, it has average matchups with the rest of the cast with decent tournament results along with a few dedicated and noteworthy players, such as {{Sm|iStudying}} and {{Sm|Some}}. | Overall, Greninja has a fairly high learning curve, but can become a potent character when mastered. As a result, it has average matchups with the rest of the cast with decent tournament results along with a few dedicated and noteworthy players, such as {{Sm|iStudying}} and {{Sm|Some}}. | ||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
Fittingly for a ninja-inspired character, Greninja fits the "hit-and-run" archetype alongside the likes of {{SSB4|Sonic}}, {{SSB4|Sheik}} and {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}. This is clearly evident in regard to its mobility: it has the fourth fastest [[walking]] speed, the sixth fastest [[dash]]ing speed, the eighth fastest [[air speed]] and the second highest [[jump]]s. It also possesses the ability to both [[wall jump]] and [[wall cling]]. Unlike said characters, however, Greninja's KO power is more consistent overall, which is evident in its up smash, forward aerial and up throw, all of which are powerful relative to ''SSB4'''s cast. As such, Greninja can be considered a good mix of speed and power. | Fittingly for a ninja-inspired character, Greninja fits the "hit-and-run" archetype alongside the likes of {{SSB4|Sonic}}, {{SSB4|Sheik}} and {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}. This is clearly evident in regard to its mobility: it has the fourth fastest [[walking]] speed, the sixth fastest [[dash]]ing speed, the eighth fastest [[air speed]] and the second highest [[jump]]s. It also possesses the ability to both [[wall jump]] and [[wall cling]]. Unlike said characters, however, Greninja's KO power is more consistent overall, which is evident in its up smash, forward aerial and up throw, all of which are powerful relative to ''SSB4'''s cast. As such, Greninja can be considered a good mix of speed and power with addition of pretty decent weight. | ||
Complementing Greninja's fast mobility is a set of relatively fast attacks and a strong combo game, most notably with its jab; when cancelled, it is one of Greninja's best combo starters, being able to set up a forward tilt, down tilt, neutral aerial, or a grab. All of Greninja's ground attacks additionally have no more than 15 frames of startup (barring its down smash, which is active at frame 16), which makes it easy for it to land attacks, while a few of its moves such as its up tilt, down tilt, neutral aerial, back aerial (first two hits only), down aerial (late hit), up throw, and down throw, work effectively for starting combos. Altogether, these traits grant Greninja arguably one of the best neutral games and damage racking abilities out of all middleweight characters. | Complementing Greninja's fast mobility is a set of relatively fast attacks and a strong combo game, most notably with its jab; when cancelled, it is one of Greninja's best combo starters, being able to set up a forward tilt, down tilt, neutral aerial, or a grab. All of Greninja's ground attacks additionally have no more than 15 frames of startup (barring its down smash, which is active at frame 16), which makes it easy for it to land attacks, while a few of its moves such as its up tilt, down tilt, neutral aerial, back aerial (first two hits only), down aerial (late hit), up throw, and down throw, work effectively for starting combos. Altogether, these traits grant Greninja arguably one of the best neutral games and damage racking abilities out of all middleweight characters. | ||
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Greninja's [[Character customization|custom moves]] are rather polarizing, as the majority of them are inferior to their regular versions, while only very few are very useful. One example of this involves its versions of Water Shuriken. Stagnant Shuriken is a very poor alternative due to it only staying in front of Greninja. However, Shifting Shuriken is extremely useful in that while it slightly detracts from Greninja's already poor range, it addresses its combo game's issues: when uncharged, it launches opponents straight up, and when charged, launches opponents toward Greninja. Shadow Dash is an instant warp that can give Greninja a more viable recovery option, but travels a fixed distance, removing Greninja's best mindgame tool. Shadow Strike has more power and covers more distance, but the shadow moves much slower, rendering it useless for both recovery and efficient mindgames. High-Capacity Pump, on the other hand, is very useful, as it covers far more distance and is much easier to control, while only being slightly slower. This greatly improves Greninja's already fearsome recovery. Single-Shot Pump is significantly inferior to Hydro Pump due to it being very linear and lacking any edgeguarding potential due to it only propelling Greninja straight up. Although Substitute Ambush may make it even easier to intercept, it gives the player more time to pick a direction and also does high shield damage. However, Exploding Attack is a superior option to both due to being more practical, powerful, and easier to hit with, though sacrificing the range and recovery potential. | Greninja's [[Character customization|custom moves]] are rather polarizing, as the majority of them are inferior to their regular versions, while only very few are very useful. One example of this involves its versions of Water Shuriken. Stagnant Shuriken is a very poor alternative due to it only staying in front of Greninja. However, Shifting Shuriken is extremely useful in that while it slightly detracts from Greninja's already poor range, it addresses its combo game's issues: when uncharged, it launches opponents straight up, and when charged, launches opponents toward Greninja. Shadow Dash is an instant warp that can give Greninja a more viable recovery option, but travels a fixed distance, removing Greninja's best mindgame tool. Shadow Strike has more power and covers more distance, but the shadow moves much slower, rendering it useless for both recovery and efficient mindgames. High-Capacity Pump, on the other hand, is very useful, as it covers far more distance and is much easier to control, while only being slightly slower. This greatly improves Greninja's already fearsome recovery. Single-Shot Pump is significantly inferior to Hydro Pump due to it being very linear and lacking any edgeguarding potential due to it only propelling Greninja straight up. Although Substitute Ambush may make it even easier to intercept, it gives the player more time to pick a direction and also does high shield damage. However, Exploding Attack is a superior option to both due to being more practical, powerful, and easier to hit with, though sacrificing the range and recovery potential. | ||
Overall, Greninja is a quick-footed yet somewhat unorthodox combo-oriented fighter, balancing respectable combo ability with stronger yet more punishable KO potential. True to its name, mastering Greninja requires the art of deception through mastering its unique special moves along with knowledge of its unusual combo and KO setups, while minimizing openings due to the ending lag of its attacks and sluggish grab game. While Greninja's learning curve only gives it an average amount of representation, players such as {{Sm|iStudying}} have spearheaded its metagame and shown Greninja's strengths in competitive play. | Overall, Greninja is a quick-footed yet somewhat unorthodox combo-oriented fighter, balancing respectable combo ability with stronger yet more punishable KO potential and Weight. True to its name, mastering Greninja requires the art of deception through mastering its unique special moves along with knowledge of its unusual combo and KO setups, while minimizing openings due to the ending lag of its attacks and sluggish grab game. While Greninja's learning curve only gives it an average amount of representation, players such as {{Sm|iStudying}} have spearheaded its metagame and shown Greninja's strengths in competitive play. | ||
==Update history== | ==Update history== | ||
Greninja has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates. Update [[1.0.4]] notably nerfed Greninja by lowering the knockback on a handful of its | Greninja has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates. Update [[1.0.4]] notably nerfed Greninja by lowering the knockback on a handful of its moves, and removing the Shadow Sneak glitch that allowed it to cancel the landing lag of its aerials. The most significantly nerfed move, however, was its up smash; initially one of the best anti-airs and smash attacks in the game, by virtue of its huge range and fast interpretability allowing it to more easily beat out aerials and juggle opponents while even comboing into Greninja's own aerials, its ending lag and hitbox sizes were significantly increased and decreased respectively, so it is much harder for Greninja to take full advantage of the move. Greninja's hurtbox size at the top of its head was also increased in 1.0.4, making it easier to hit and rendering its once-decent [[crouch]] nearly useless. However, these nerfs were slightly compensated for as Shadow Sneak was buffed to a degree. Like 1.0.4, [[List of updates (SSB4-3DS)#1.0.5|1.0.5]] removed another exploitable glitch, the running Shadow Sneak glitch. | ||
However, Greninja has also seen some improvements in later updates. [[1.0.8]] noticeably improved its forward tilt's | However, Greninja has also seen some improvements in later updates. [[1.0.8]] noticeably improved its forward tilt's utility for spacing. Update [[1.1.0]] gave Greninja a mix of buffs and nerfs, though the former was more prevalent than the latter. While its down throw's damage output was decreased and Water Shuriken no longer stalls Greninja in the air after a jump, its down throw's ending lag was reduced, while Water Shuriken's startup was decreased, allowing it to camp more effectively. In addition to its ending lag, down throw's damage decrease indirectly improved its combo potential; one notable combo is into forward aerial for a potential KO at high percentages, although it is nevertheless dependent on DI. Update [[1.1.1]] only changed Greninja's Shadow Dash custom, decreasing its ending lag. | ||
The changes to the shield mechanics brought about by updates 1.1.0 and 1.1.1 were overall beneficial for Greninja: although its poor [[out of shield]] game was further weakened, several of its attacks have increased hitlag multipliers (such as the last hits of its jab, back aerial, up aerial and fully charged Water Shuriken, as well as its forward and down aerials) and are therefore safer on shield; particularly, forward aerial has become a much more useful move thanks to its safety on shield while providing relatively lenient spacing, and its neutral aerial also benefits due to its average damage and low landing lag. | |||
Update [[1.1.3]] buffed the knockback to Greninja's smash attacks and all variations of Shadow Sneak, which helps compensate for 1.0.4's weakening of its KO potential. Lastly, update [[1.1.5]] decreased | Update [[1.1.3]] slightly buffed the knockback to Greninja's smash attacks and all variations of Shadow Sneak, which helps compensate for 1.0.4's weakening of its KO potential. Lastly, update [[1.1.5]] decreased dash attack's and standing grab's startup lag, and its forward and back aerials' landing lag. It also considerably improved Hydro Pump's reliability by tweaking its angle to avoid it from "headbonking". | ||
Despite popular perception of being heavily nerfed, Greninja fares about the same as he did at launch. | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} [[1.0.4]]''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} [[1.0.4]]''' | ||
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'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.0.8]]''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.0.8]]''' | ||
*{{buff|Forward tilt deals | *{{buff|Forward tilt has much less ending lag (FAF 42 → 33), greatly improving its spacing potential.}} | ||
*{{buff|Forward tilt deals more damage (6.5% → 7.3%). The foot hitbox’s knockback scaling was not fully compensated (112 → 110), improving its KO potential.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Forward tilt’s leg and body hitboxes deal less knockback 20 (base), 112 (scaling) → 30/90 (leg)/40/70 (body), hindering their KO potential.}} | |||
**{{buff|However, their higher base knockback along with the move’s lower ending lag greatly improves their safety on hit, with the move no longer being punishable on hit at lower percents.}} | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.0]]''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.0]]''' | ||
*{{ | *{{nerf|Down throw deals 1% less damage|6%|5%.}} | ||
*{{buff|Water Shuriken's | *{{buff|Down throw has decreased ending lag (FAF 50 → 43), and altered knockback (65 base/50 growth → 53 base/75 scaling). Alongside the decreased damage, this grants it combo potential especially at low-mid percents.}} | ||
*{{ | *{{buff|Water Shuriken's startup lag decreased (frame 25 → 20).}} | ||
*{{bugfix|Fixed a glitch where Water Shuriken stalled Greninja in midair after a jump.}} | |||
**{{nerf|This worsens its recovery potential.}} | |||
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]''' | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]''' | ||
*{{buff|Shadow Dash's ending lag decreased.}} | *{{buff|Shadow Dash's ending lag decreased.}} | ||
*{{change|Second [[victory pose]] slightly changed.}} | *{{change|Second [[victory pose]] slightly changed.}} | ||
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==Moveset== | ==Moveset== | ||
*Greninja | *Greninja can [[Crawling|crawl]], [[wall cling]], and [[wall jump]]. | ||
''For a gallery of Greninja's hitboxes, see [[/Hitboxes|here]].'' | |||
{{MovesetTable | {{MovesetTable | ||
|game=SSB4 | |game=SSB4 | ||
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|uthrowname= | |uthrowname= | ||
|uthrowdmg=5% | |uthrowdmg=5% | ||
|uthrowdesc=Heaves the opponent upward. Possibly Greninja's most useful throw, as it can be followed up with up smash at low percents, up aerial at medium percents and can KO around 150%-200%, the latter of which depends on the opponent's DI and weight. | |uthrowdesc=Heaves the opponent upward. Possibly Greninja's most useful throw, as it can be followed up with up smash at low percents, up aerial at medium percents and can KO around 150%-200%, the latter of which depends on the opponent's DI and weight. | ||
|dthrowname= | |dthrowname= | ||
|dthrowdmg= | |dthrowdmg=5% | ||
|dthrowdesc=Slams opponents onto the ground in front of itself. It can be followed reliably with forward tilt, forward smash or [[Shadow Sneak]] at low percents, or a full hopped forward aerial at high percents. | |dthrowdesc=Slams opponents onto the ground in front of itself. It can be followed reliably with forward tilt, forward smash or [[Shadow Sneak]] at low percents, or a full hopped forward aerial at high percents. | ||
|floorfname= | |floorfname= | ||
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|edgedesc=Performs a roundhouse kick while climbing up. | |edgedesc=Performs a roundhouse kick while climbing up. | ||
|nsdefname=Water Shuriken | |nsdefname=Water Shuriken | ||
|nsdefdmg=3%-11% (uncharged), 0.7% (fully charged loop), 9% (fully charged last) | |nsdefdmg=3%-11% (uncharged), 0.7% (fully charged loop, 1-5 hits), 9% (fully charged last) | ||
|nsdefdesc=[[bulbapedia:Water Shuriken (move)|Throws a shuriken made of water]]. It is chargeable, but its charge cannot be held indefinitely. Additionally, charging the move noticeably increases its power, but reduces its speed and range. When fully charged, the shuriken hits multiple times, ending with a final hit that has KO potential at the edge. The first use in midair lifts Greninja into the air very slightly. | |nsdefdesc=[[bulbapedia:Water Shuriken (move)|Throws a shuriken made of water]]. It is chargeable, but its charge cannot be held indefinitely. Additionally, charging the move noticeably increases its power, but reduces its speed and range. When fully charged, the shuriken hits multiple times, ending with a final hit that has KO potential at the edge. The first use in midair lifts Greninja into the air very slightly. | ||
|nsc1name=Stagnant Shuriken | |nsc1name=Stagnant Shuriken | ||
|nsc1dmg=1 | |nsc1dmg=1% (loop, 1-6 hits), 2% (fully charged loop, 1-7 hits) | ||
|nsc1desc=The shuriken | |nsc1desc=The shuriken has two charge levels, each striking multiple times, and spins in place in front of Greninja. | ||
|nsc2name=Shifting Shuriken | |nsc2name=Shifting Shuriken | ||
|nsc2dmg=3% | |nsc2dmg=3% (uncharged), 3% (charged, 1-2 hits) | ||
|nsc2desc=Uncharged shurikens deal strong upward knockback, while charged ones pierce opponents. Damage stays the same regardless of charge. | |nsc2desc=Uncharged shurikens are bigger but much slower, and deal strong upward knockback, while charged ones are smaller than normal and pierce opponents. Damage stays the same regardless of charge. | ||
|ssdefname=Shadow Sneak | |ssdefname=Shadow Sneak | ||
|ssdefdmg=10% (normal), 12% (reverse) | |ssdefdmg=10% (normal), 12% (reverse) | ||
|ssdefdesc=Silently prepares to [[bulbapedia:Shadow Sneak (move)|teleport to a moving shadow]], which activates when either attack button is released. The shadow moves relative to Greninja's position, and while it is being prepared, Greninja cannot run, shield, grab or attack, but can walk, jump and taunt. If the shadow is in front of the opponent, Greninja performs a handstand-initiated backflip kick. If the shadow is behind the opponent, Greninja dropkicks them instead. The latter strike is slightly stronger than the former, making it a deceptively strong finishing move, especially if used off-stage. Can be used to extend Greninja's recovery as it does not cause [[helpless|helplessness]]. If used with the correct timing, Greninja can escape some multi-hitting moves, but the ending lag will leave it in a vulnerable state. | |ssdefdesc=Silently prepares to [[bulbapedia:Shadow Sneak (move)|teleport to a moving shadow]], which activates when either attack button is released. The shadow moves relative to Greninja's position, and while it is being prepared, Greninja cannot run, shield, grab or attack, but can walk, jump and taunt. If the shadow is in front of the opponent, Greninja performs a handstand-initiated backflip kick. If the shadow is behind the opponent, Greninja dropkicks them instead. The latter strike is slightly stronger than the former, making it a deceptively strong finishing move, especially if used off-stage. Can be used to extend Greninja's recovery as it does not cause [[helpless|helplessness]]. If used with the correct timing, Greninja can dodge attacks and escape some multi-hitting moves, but the ending lag will leave it in a vulnerable state. | ||
|ssc1name=Shadow Strike | |ssc1name=Shadow Strike | ||
|ssc1dmg=15% (normal), 17% (reverse) | |ssc1dmg=15% (normal), 17% (reverse) | ||
|ssc1desc=The shadow moves slower and farther while the attack is much stronger. Additionally, Greninja takes longer to reappear. | |ssc1desc=The shadow moves slower and farther while the attack is much stronger. Additionally, Greninja takes longer to reappear and suffers increased end lag. | ||
|ssc2name=Shadow Dash | |ssc2name=Shadow Dash | ||
|ssc2dmg=6% (normal), 7% (reverse) | |ssc2dmg=6% (normal), 7% (reverse) | ||
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|usdefname=Hydro Pump | |usdefname=Hydro Pump | ||
|usdefdmg=2% (per shot) | |usdefdmg=2% (per shot) | ||
|usdefdesc=[[bulbapedia:Hydro Pump (move)|Shoots two streams of water]] from one of its hands in the opposite direction of travel, propelling Greninja in the input directions. Functions similarly to [[Quick Attack]], though it can be used twice in the same direction. Each water stream has a [[push]] effect, allowing it to be used as an unorthodox edgeguarding technique; on the ground, Greninja can also fire a single spurt of water in one direction and then cancel it by aiming downward. While it offers excellent distance, Greninja will immediately start falling once the second water stream ends, making it easy to underestimate vertical distance gained. Unlike other up specials, Greninja's up special input will trigger a Shadow Sneak charge instead if the Control Stick is angled to the side enough. | |usdefdesc=[[bulbapedia:Hydro Pump (move)|Shoots two streams of water]] from one of its hands in the opposite direction of travel, propelling Greninja in the input directions. Functions similarly to [[Quick Attack]], though it can be used twice in the same direction. Each water stream has a [[push]] effect, allowing it to be used as an unorthodox edgeguarding technique; on the ground, Greninja can also fire a single spurt of water in one direction and then cancel it by aiming downward. While it offers excellent distance, Greninja will immediately start falling once the second water stream ends, making it easy to underestimate vertical distance gained. Unlike other up specials, Greninja's up special input will trigger a Shadow Sneak charge instead if the Control Stick is angled to the side enough. | ||
|usc1name=High-Capacity Pump | |usc1name=High-Capacity Pump | ||
|usc1dmg=— | |usc1dmg=— | ||
|usc1desc=The water streams are more controllable, but deal no damage. | |usc1desc=The water streams are more controllable and travel farther, but are slower and deal no damage. | ||
|usc2name=Single-Shot Pump | |usc2name=Single-Shot Pump | ||
|usc2dmg=5% | |usc2dmg=5% | ||
|usc2desc= | |usc2desc=One single longer-ranged water stream is fired that can only go up, though it is slightly more powerful and flinches opponents. | ||
|dsdefname=Substitute | |dsdefname=Substitute | ||
|dsdefdmg=14% | |dsdefdmg=14% (up or down), 13% (diagonally), 11% (left or right) | ||
|dsdefdesc=Assumes a defensive stance. If attacked, Greninja disappears and [[counterattack]]s while leaving a [[bulbapedia:Substitute (move)|plush doll]] or a log in its place before counterattacking with a flying kick upon reappearing. The kick's direction can be inputted while Greninja has vanished, which can result mindgames due to the kick being able to function as a vertical KOing option, a semi-spike or even a meteor smash. It is unique as a counterattack due to its fixed damage, along with Greninja being vulnerable during the retaliating hit, allowing multi-hit moves to interrupt the counterattack. | |dsdefdesc=Assumes a defensive stance. If attacked, Greninja disappears and [[counterattack]]s while leaving a [[bulbapedia:Substitute (move)|plush doll]] or a log in its place before counterattacking with a flying kick upon reappearing. Only one log/doll per Greninja can be active at once, but they can block attacks after being summoned. The kick's direction can be inputted while Greninja has vanished, which can result in mindgames due to the kick being able to function as a vertical KOing option, a semi-spike or even a meteor smash. It is unique as a counterattack due to its fixed damage, along with Greninja being vulnerable during the retaliating hit, allowing multi-hit moves to interrupt the counterattack. | ||
|dsc1name=Exploding Attack | |dsc1name=Exploding Attack | ||
|dsc1dmg=10% (close), 8% (far) | |dsc1dmg=10% (close), 8% (far) | ||
|dsc1desc=Vanishes and reappears with an explosion around itself instead of counterattacking. | |dsc1desc=Vanishes and reappears with an explosion around itself instead of counterattacking. Can still dodge attacks. | ||
|dsc2name=Substitute Ambush | |dsc2name=Substitute Ambush | ||
|dsc2dmg=18% | |dsc2dmg=18% (up or down), 17% (diagonally), 15% (left or right) | ||
|dsc2desc=Disappears for a longer amount of time, but performs a stronger counterattack upon reappearing. | |dsc2desc=Disappears for a longer amount of time, but performs a stronger counterattack upon reappearing. | ||
|fsname=Secret Ninja Attack | |fsname=Secret Ninja Attack | ||
|fsdmg=2% (snag), 5% (flip), 2% (hits 1-15), 15% (hit 16) | |fsdmg=2% (snag), 5% (flip), 2% (hits 1-15), 15% (hit 16) | ||
|fsdesc=Launches opponents into the air with [[bulbapedia:Mat Block (move)|Mat Block]], its former signature move in the ''Pokémon'' games. It then proceeds to slash them several times in midair while a moonlit backdrop appears, and then finally spikes them down to the stage with a downward knifehand strike. | |fsdesc=Launches opponents into the air with [[bulbapedia:Mat Block (move)|Mat Block]], its former signature move in the ''Pokémon'' games. It then proceeds to slash them several times in midair while a moonlit backdrop appears, and then finally spikes them down to the stage with a downward knifehand strike. | ||
|dtauntname= | |||
|dtauntdmg=0.5% | |||
|dtauntdesc=Poses upright and holds out arms to either side, releasing fountains of water from its palms. The water fountains deal vertical knockback to nearby opponents. It can even KO, though only at extremely high percents (in the 400%-600% range for most characters).<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-0l0s5nKrc What Percentage Does Greninja's Taunt Kill At in Super Smash Bros Wii U]</ref> However, it is the only attack it can still use during [[Shadow Sneak]]. It is surprisingly effective in [[Multi-Man Smash]]. | |||
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===Stats=== | |||
{{Attributes | |||
|cast = 58 | |||
|weight = 94 | |||
|rweight = 33-36 | |||
|dash = 1.6 | |||
|rdash = 15-23 | |||
|run = 2.08 | |||
|rrun = 6 | |||
|walk = 1.43 | |||
|rwalk = 4 | |||
|trac = 0.045 | |||
|rtrac = 44-52 | |||
|airfric = 0.015 | |||
|rairfric = 6-19 | |||
|air = 1.18 | |||
|rair = 8 | |||
|baseaccel = 0.01 | |||
|rbaseaccel = 10-54 | |||
|addaccel = 0.07 | |||
|raddaccel = 18-28 | |||
|gravity = 0.18 | |||
|rgravity = 2 | |||
|fall = 1.85 | |||
|rfall = 3 | |||
|ff = 2.96 | |||
|rff = 4 | |||
|jumpsquat = 4 | |||
|rjumpsquat = 1-13 | |||
|jumpheight = 46 | |||
|rjumpheight = 2 | |||
|shorthop = 22.114738 | |||
|rshorthop = 1 | |||
|djump = 46 | |||
|rdjump = 4 | |||
}} | }} | ||
===[[Announcer]] call=== | |||
{{audio|Needs announcer calls from other languages.}} | |||
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===[[On-screen appearance]]=== | ===[[On-screen appearance]]=== | ||
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|desc-up=Strikes a pose, then rises slightly more upright to strike a ninjutsu pose. | |desc-up=Strikes a pose, then rises slightly more upright to strike a ninjutsu pose. The stance resembles one of its attack animations from the ''Pokémon'' series. | ||
|desc-side=Shakes head from side to side, causing its tongue to whip out in the same directions. | |desc-side=Shakes head from side to side, causing its tongue to whip out in the same directions as saliva flies off. | ||
|desc-down=Poses | |desc-down=Poses with arms out and palms upward, and summons small sprays of water from them, which deal a small amount of damage.}} | ||
===[[Idle Pose]]s=== | ===[[Idle Pose]]s=== | ||
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|victory-desc=An orchestral excerpt of the title theme from [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|''Pokémon Red'', ''Blue'']] and [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Red and Green Versions|''Green Versions'']], which has since become the main theme of the ''Pokémon'' series. | |victory-desc=An orchestral excerpt of the title theme from [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|''Pokémon Red'', ''Blue'']] and [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Red and Green Versions|''Green Versions'']], which has since become the main theme of the ''Pokémon'' series. | ||
|desc-1=Performs [[bulbapedia:Double Team (move)|Double Team]] to briefly create three afterimages of itself. | |desc-1=Performs [[bulbapedia:Double Team (move)|Double Team]] to briefly create three afterimages of itself. | ||
|desc-2=Performs a few ninjutsu hand signs that emit small bursts of water and then strikes a ninjutsu pose similar to its up taunt | |desc-2=Performs a few ninjutsu hand signs that emit small bursts of water and then strikes a ninjutsu pose similar to its up taunt. It resembles one of its attack animations in [[bulbapedia:Pokémon X and Y|''Pokémon X'' and ''Y'']]. | ||
|desc-3=Performs a flip and then crosses its arms after landing. | |||
|char=Greninja}} | |char=Greninja}} | ||
==In [[competitive play]]== | ==In [[competitive play]]== | ||
===Tier placement and history=== | |||
Upon the game's release, Greninja was played extensively in Japanese tournaments. However, it would soon infamously receive nerfs in update [[1.0.4]], hurting its KO options, hurtbox, and also fixing a glitch that it had with Shadow Sneak. This, along with better characters up and coming, lowered Greninja's representation in tournaments, and it was beginning to be looked down upon due to its slow aerials, lackluster grab game, and lack of reliable KO options, and was passed over for characters perceived to be more viable. This and its high learning curve made it very distasteful to pick up. Despite this, Greninja still saw solid placings all around at tournaments, which caused its perception to not be as tough as it was after its nerfs. Greninja would at first rank at 25th on the first [[tier list]] released by the ''4BR''. | |||
However, updates [[1.1.3]] and [[1.1.5]] gave Greninja noteworthy buffs, with an increase to its KO power and combo options, as well as reduced landing lag on some of its aerial moves. With these buffs, Greninja began to see higher representation and some players began to realize its potential once again, largely due to the work of {{Sm|DarkAura}}, {{Sm|Eddy}}, {{Sm|Oisiitofu}}, {{Sm|Some}}, {{Sm|Venia}}, and most notably {{Sm|iStudying}}, who achieved 2nd place at [[B.E.A.S.T 6]]. These results allowed it to rise to 21st on the second tier list. | |||
Despite its slightly rare results, Greninja was ranked 22nd on the third tier list, and is seen to be a viable option in tournaments, while also being backed by excellent tournament representation. After Some placed 9th at [[Frostbite 2017]], however, Greninja's results dropped once again. Greninja was once again thought to not be as great as initially perceived, especially after [[2GGC: Greninja Saga]] saw it placing rather inconsistently (this is largely attributed to the Greninja players eliminating themselves during the top 48 part of the bracket). Despite an explosion of Greninja results appearing recently in tournaments, voting for its tier placement was already done, resulting in Greninja being ranked at 26th on the fourth and final tier list, its lowest placement so far. Regardless, it was generally agreed that this burst of good tournament results could cause Greninja's placement to rise on a future tier list, but this ultimately didn’t happen. | |||
===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]=== | ===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]=== | ||
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=== | ===Most historically significant players=== | ||
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*{{Sm|DarkAura|Canada}} - The best Greninja player in Canada. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Canada Cup 2016}}, 9th at both {{Trn|Get On My Level 2017}} and {{Trn|Canada Cup 2017}}, 25th at {{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|Shine 2017}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Alphicans}}, {{Sm|taranito}}, and {{Sm|Deathorse}}. Formerly ranked 16th on the [[Smash Canada Rankings]]. | |||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|Donquavious|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Clash of the Carolinas II}}, 13th at both {{Trn|Super FamiCon 2017}} and {{Trn|DreamHack Atlanta 2018}}, and 25th at both {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}} and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2018}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Fatality}}, {{Sm|Darkshad}}, and {{Sm|Sho}}. | ||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|Elexiao|France}} - One of the best Greninja players in Europe. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Neokan Party 2}}, 9th at {{Trn|SALT}}, 17th at {{Trn|Smashdown World}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|The Big House 7}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Vinnie}}, {{Sm|S1}}, and {{Sm|iStudying}}. Ranked 11th on the [[European Smash 4 Power Rankings]]. | ||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|iStudying|Netherlands}} - One of the best Greninja players in the world. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 6}}, 4th at {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 7}}, 5th at {{Trn|Syndicate 2017}}, 17th at {{Trn|UGC Smash Open}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Pound 2016}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Ally}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|MVD}}. Formerly ranked 42nd on the [[Panda Global Rankings v1]]. | ||
*{{Sm|Jw|Canada}} - Placed 9th at {{Trn|Canada Cup 2018}}, 17th at both {{Trn|Canada Cup 2017}} and {{Trn|DreamHack Montreal 2018}}, 25th at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2017}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|The Big House 8}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Lima}}, {{Sm|Mistake}}, and {{Sm|Blacktwins}}. | |||
*{{Sm|Lea|Japan}} - One of the best Greninja players in the world. Placed 4th at {{Trn|Umebura 34}}, 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 30}}, 7th at {{Trn|Umebura Smash 4 Final}}, 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major 2017}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|KEN}}, {{Sm|VoiD}}, and {{Sm|Kameme}}. | |||
*{{Sm|Oisiitofu|Japan}} - One of the best Greninja players in Japan. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|Sumabato 16}}, 5th at both {{Trn|Sumabato 12}} and {{Trn|Sumabato 26}}, 13th at {{Trn|Sumabato 10}}, and 17th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|9B}}, {{Sm|Etsuji}}, and {{Sm|Taiheita}}. | |||
*{{Sm|P2P with Gibus|USA}} - The best Greninja player in Texas. Placed 7th at {{Trn|Low Tier City 4}}, 9th at {{Trn|Clutch City Clash}}, 17th at both {{Trn|DreamHack Austin 2017}} and {{Trn|DreamHack Austin 2018}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Low Tier City 5}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Ryo}}, {{Sm|Konga}}, and {{Sm|MJG}}. | |||
*{{Sm|Some|Japan}} - One of the best Greninja players in Japan. Placed 3rd at {{Trn|Sumabato 4U FINAL}}, 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 26}}, 9th at {{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}, 13th at {{Trn|Umebura 28}}, and 17th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Captain Zack}}, {{Sm|Kameme}}, and {{Sm|Fatality}}. | |||
*{{Sm|Stroder|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: West Side Saga}}, 17th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: SCR Saga}}, and 33rd at both {{Trn|EVO 2016}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Nairo}}, {{Sm|Elegant}}, and {{Sm|falln}}. Formerly ranked in Area 51 on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]]. | |||
=== | ==In Solo Modes== | ||
===[[All-Star Mode]]=== | |||
In All-Star Mode, Greninja is fought in Stage 7 in the 3DS version or Stage 1 in the Wii U version alongside {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}, {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Corrin}}, and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}. | |||
==={{GameIcon|SSB4-U}}[[Event Match]]es=== | |||
====Solo Events==== | |||
* '''[[Fire-Type Frenzy]]''': As {{SSB4|Charizard}}, the player must defeat Greninja, {{SSB4|Pikachu}} and {{SSB4|Lucario}}. | |||
* '''[[New Challengers 2]]''': Greninja is one of the seven opponents fought in this event alongside {{SSB4|Palutena}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Mega Man}}, and {{SSB4|Pac-Man}}. | |||
* '''{{b|Pokémon Battle|SSB4}}''': Greninja must defeat Pikachu, Charizard, and Lucario. | |||
====Co-op Events==== | |||
* '''[[Pokémon Multi Battle!]]''': Greninja is one of the player's Pokémon to use, as well as being one of the opponents. | |||
* '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. | |||
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===[[Congratulations screen]]s=== | |||
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====3DS==== | |||
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SSB4-3DS Congratulations Classic Greninja.png|Classic Mode | |||
SSB4-3DS Congratulations All-Star Greninja.png|All-Star Mode | |||
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====Wii U==== | |||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
SSB4-Wii U Congratulations Classic Greninja.png|Classic Mode | |||
SSB4-Wii U Congratulations All-Star Greninja.png|All-Star Mode | |||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
</center> | </center> | ||
== | ==[[Trophies]]== | ||
=== | Greninja's default trophy is obtained by clearing Classic Mode as Greninja. Its alternate trophy is obtained by clearing All-Star Mode as Greninja in the 3DS version or purchasing it in the Trophy Shop for 1000G in the Wii U version. The Secret Ninja Attack trophy is obtained only in the Wii U version by clearing All-Star Mode as Greninja. | ||
{{Trophy/Fighter | |||
|name=Greninja | |||
|image-3ds=GreninjaTrophy3DS.png | |||
|image-wiiu=GreninjaTrophyWiiU.png | |||
|mode=Classic | |||
|desc-ntsc=This Water/Dark-type Pokémon is the fully evolved form of Froakie. It's just as fast and dangerous as any other ninja, and the throwing stars it can make out of water can shear metal. In Smash Bros., as well as being a graceful, speedy fighter, it can also use moves like Hydro Pump that let it travel through the air and avoid falling. | |||
|desc-pal=This Water- and Dark-type Pokémon is the fully evolved form of Froakie. It is just as fast and dangerous as its name suggests, and the throwing stars it can make out of water can shear metal. In this game, as well as being a graceful, speedy fighter, it can also use moves like Hydro Pump to let it move through the air and avoid falling. | |||
|gamelist-ntsc={{Trophy games|console1=3DS|game1=Pokémon X & Pokémon Y|release1=10/2013}} | |||
|gamelist-pal={{Trophy games|console1=3DS|game1=Pokémon X/Y|release1=10/2013}} | |||
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{{Trophy/Fighter | |||
|name=Greninja (Alt.) | |||
|image-3ds=GreninjaAltTrophy3DS.png | |||
|image-wiiu=GreninjaAltTrophyWiiU.png | |||
|mode=Alt | |||
|desc-ntsc=Greninja's Substitute down special lets you teleport to dodge attacks and then strike back, making it an effective and hard-to-predict way to counterattack. You can also control where you reappear by inputting directions. When you vanish, sometimes you'll be replaced by a log, other times by a cuddly toy. | |||
|desc-pal=Greninja's Substitute down special lets you teleport to dodge attacks and then strike back, making it an effective and hard-to-predict way to counter-attack. You can also control where you reappear. When you vanish, sometimes you'll be replaced by a log, and other times by a Substitute doll. | |||
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|gamelist-pal={{Trophy games|console1=3DS|game1=Pokémon X/Y|release1=10/2013}} | |||
}} | |||
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== | {{Trophy/Fighter | ||
|name=Secret Ninja Attack | |||
|image=SecretNinjaAttackTrophyWiiU.png | |||
|desc-ntsc=In Greninja's Final Smash, it uses its Mat Block move to flip opponents into the air. It then slices them repeatedly in front of the bright moon before smacking them back down to the ground and launching them. The initial Mat Block flip doesn't have much range, but should it hit home, the rest of the attack is unavoidable. | |||
|desc-pal=In Greninja's Final Smash, it uses its Mat Block move to flip an opponent into the air. It then slices them repeatedly in front of the shining moon, before smacking them down to the ground so hard they get launched. The initial Mat Block flip doesn't have much range, but if it hits home, there's no evading the rest of the attack. | |||
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==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Greninja|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Greninja|Alternate costumes]]== | ||
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|{{Head|Greninja|g=SSB4|s=50px|cl=Purple}} | |{{Head|Greninja|g=SSB4|s=50px|cl=Purple}} | ||
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==[[List of Super Smash Bros. 4 character trailers#Charizard and Greninja|Reveal trailer]]== | |||
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==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
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SSB4 Newcomer Introduction Greninja.png|Greninja's splash art. | SSB4 Newcomer Introduction Greninja.png|Greninja's splash art. | ||
Greninja amiibo.png|Greninja's [[amiibo]]. | Greninja amiibo.png|Greninja's [[amiibo]]. | ||
Greninja_Poster.jpg|Artwork of Greninja used on the website. | |||
SSB4 - Greninja Screen-9.jpg|In {{for3ds}}. | SSB4 - Greninja Screen-9.jpg|In {{for3ds}}. | ||
SSB4 - Greninja 01.jpg|In {{forwiiu}}. | SSB4 - Greninja 01.jpg|In {{forwiiu}}. | ||
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==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
*From December 9, 2014 to January 29, 2015, Japanese players of [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|''Pokémon Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'']] were able to gain a serial code to download a Greninja based on this Greninja, complete with a moveset consisting of ''SSB4'' Greninja's special moves; an {{s|bulbapedia|Original Trainer}} listed as スマブラ (''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|SmaBra]]''); and the [[bulbapedia:Ability#Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability]] {{s|bulbapedia|Protean}}.<ref>[ | *Prior to the addition of {{SSB4|Corrin}} via DLC, Greninja was the most recent playable character in ''Smash 4'', with ''Pokémon X & Y'' predating ''SSB4''{{'}}s release by eleven months. Incidentally, {{SSBU|Incineroar}} also held this title in the next game, before being superseded by {{SSBU|Byleth}} (like Corrin, a {{uv|Fire Emblem}} character). Both are part Dark types who are the final evolutions of starter Pokémon and they were the only Pokémon debutants in their ''Smash'' debut. | ||
*From December 9, 2014 to January 29, 2015, Japanese players of [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|''Pokémon Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'']] were able to gain a serial code to download a Greninja based on this Greninja, complete with a moveset consisting of ''SSB4'' Greninja's special moves; an {{s|bulbapedia|Original Trainer}} listed as スマブラ (''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|SmaBra]]''); and the [[bulbapedia:Ability#Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability]] {{s|bulbapedia|Protean}}.<ref>[[bulbapedia:List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Super Smash Bros. Greninja|List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions]]</ref> | |||
**Interestingly, the event Greninja is always male, which suggests that the ''SSB4'' Greninja is as well. Despite this, it is not listed under a specific gender per Nintendo and its affiliates' stance on, for the most part, using gender-neutral pronouns for all Pokémon, regardless of a species' appearance/gender ratio or lack thereof. | **Interestingly, the event Greninja is always male, which suggests that the ''SSB4'' Greninja is as well. Despite this, it is not listed under a specific gender per Nintendo and its affiliates' stance on, for the most part, using gender-neutral pronouns for all Pokémon, regardless of a species' appearance/gender ratio or lack thereof. | ||
**Prior to the release of ''Pokémon Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', | **Prior to the release of ''Pokémon Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', {{iw|bulbapedia|Water Shuriken|move}} was also one of Greninja's signature moves. However, {{iw|bulbapedia|Accelgor|Pokémon}} later gained access to Water Shuriken in ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', albeit via {{s|bulbapedia|Move Reminder}}. | ||
*Greninja knows six official Pokémon {{s|bulbapedia|move}}s, all of which it can legally learn in the ''Pokémon'' {{s|bulbapedia|core series}}. In addition to Water Shuriken, | *Greninja knows six official Pokémon {{s|bulbapedia|move}}s, all of which it can legally learn in the ''Pokémon'' {{s|bulbapedia|core series}}. In addition to Water Shuriken, {{iw|bulbapedia|Shadow Sneak|move}}, {{iw|bulbapedia|Hydro Pump|move}}, and {{iw|bulbapedia|Substitute|move}}, it uses {{iw|bulbapedia|Mat Block|move}} to initiate [[Secret Ninja Attack]], and {{iw|bulbapedia|Double Team|move}} during one of its [[victory pose]]s. | ||
*Greninja's color palette of its official artwork and in-game appearance are slightly different. For its in-game appearance, its body and legs are a slightly darker shade of blue, while its webbings, face, and chest are cream instead of beige. | *Greninja's color palette of its official artwork and in-game appearance are slightly different. For its in-game appearance, its body and legs are a slightly darker shade of blue, while its webbings, face, and chest are cream instead of beige. | ||
*Greninja and {{SSB4|Lucario}} are the only Pokémon to not have a custom move that share a name with an actual Pokémon move. | *Greninja and {{SSB4|Lucario}} are the only Pokémon to not have a custom move that share a name with an actual Pokémon move. | ||
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*Greninja's forward smash when wielding a battering item is identical to its normal forward smash, albeit with the held item in lieu of its water katana. | *Greninja's forward smash when wielding a battering item is identical to its normal forward smash, albeit with the held item in lieu of its water katana. | ||
*During Greninja's reveal trailer, several people [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJMCIt9Zz9g mistakenly] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfszq4OBYA believed] that Greninja was [[Mewtwo]], despite the fact that Water Shuriken was clearly shown (with that being mistaken for Mewtwo's [[Shadow Ball]]). Although Mewtwo [[Mewtwo (SSB4)|did eventually appear in ''SSB4'' as a DLC character]], at the time, the community had countless discussions about whether or not Mewtwo would be in the final roster. | *During Greninja's reveal trailer, several people [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJMCIt9Zz9g mistakenly] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfszq4OBYA believed] that Greninja was [[Mewtwo]], despite the fact that Water Shuriken was clearly shown (with that being mistaken for Mewtwo's [[Shadow Ball]]). Although Mewtwo [[Mewtwo (SSB4)|did eventually appear in ''SSB4'' as a DLC character]], at the time, the community had countless discussions about whether or not Mewtwo would be in the final roster. | ||
*Due to being considered an exceptionally effective character at the time, Greninja was [[nerf]]ed in update 1.0.4, and later had one of its beneficial glitches removed in update 1.0.5. These changes started the "Better Nerf Greninja" meme, where Greninja was photoshopped with {{s|wikipedia|Nerf}} products with the caption "Better Nerf Greninja". It was inspired by the similarly named "Better Nerf Irelia" meme from the ''{{s|wikipedia|League of Legends}}'' community, which was started under similar circumstances. | *Due to being considered an exceptionally effective character at the time, Greninja was [[nerf]]ed in update 1.0.4, and later had one of its beneficial glitches removed in update 1.0.5. These changes started the "Better Nerf Greninja" meme, where Greninja was photoshopped with {{s|wikipedia|Nerf}} products with the caption "Better Nerf Greninja". It was inspired by the similarly named "Better Nerf Irelia" meme from the ''{{s|wikipedia|League of Legends}}'' community, which was started under similar circumstances. | ||
*Greninja's ''Smash 4'' artwork looks very similar to its ''Pokémon X and Y'' artwork, although with its legs positioned differently. | |||
*Despite Greninja's tongue changing color when using its alternate costumes, the pink trail on its [[up tilt]] is retained. | |||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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[[Category:Trophies (SSB4-3DS)]] | [[Category:Trophies (SSB4-3DS)]] | ||
[[Category:Trophies (SSB4-Wii U)]] | [[Category:Trophies (SSB4-Wii U)]] | ||
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