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Since their release, Pyra and Mythra have received very positive reception from competitive players. This is largely owed to Mythra's outstanding mobility and frame data, overall one of the best in the game, alongside her unique Foresight ability, though this is at the cost of her damage output being largely unimpressive. On the other hand, Pyra brings to the table overwhelming power and range, while losing out on mobility and, to an extent, frame data. Their polarized attributes overall complement very well and leave the duo with few collective weaknesses (most notably, an overall mediocre recovery). Although it is unclear how exactly they will fare in the long run due to their recent release and the still-ongoing [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]] making offline tournaments relatively sparse at the time of their initial release, thanks to their strengths and results from players such as {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Sparg0}}, and {{Sm|Cosmos}}, most people consider the character to not just be top tier, but one of the best characters in the current metagame.
===Most historically significant players===
===Most historically significant players===
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''See also: [[:Category:Pyra and Mythra players (SSBU)]]''
*{{Sm|Cosmos|USA}} - The best Aegis player in the United States. He is the first solo-Aegis player to win a major, doing so at {{Trn|Glitch - Infinite}}, and has also placed top 8 at several major events, including placing 2nd at both {{Trn|Smash World Tour 2021 Championships}} and {{Trn|L'Odyssée - Chant I}}.
*{{Sm|MkLeo|Mexico}} - The best ''Ultimate'' player of all-time, having picked up Aegis towards the end of the online metagame and has since used them as either a main, co-main, or counterpick throughout his career.
*{{Sm|Shuton|Japan}} -  The best Aegis player in Japan, co-maining them along with {{SSBU|Olimar}}. He used Aegis alongside Olimar to win the majors {{Trn|KOWLOON 5}} and {{Trn|Wave 4}}.
*{{Sm|Space|Netherlands}} - Although initially known for his {{SSBU|Inkling}}, he picked up Aegis in mid-2022 and has become the best Aegis player in Europe while maintaining his top 10 status in the continent, placing top 8 at several majors including 5th at {{Trn|King Of Fields 95 3}} and 7th at {{Trn|VCA 2022}}.
*{{Sm|Sparg0|Mexico}} - One of the [[Four Horsemen]] and one of the best ''Ultimate'' players in the post-online metagame. He picked up Aegis during the online metagame and used them as his main for most of 2021. He has since relegated the character to a secondary, often using the character for {{SSBU|Cloud}}'s difficult matchups or matchups that are better for Aegis.


''See also: [[:Category:Pyra and Mythra professionals (SSBU)]]''
===Tier placement and history===
*{{Sm|Cosmos|USA}} - One of the best Aegis players in the world. Placed 1st at both {{Trn|Bourbon State Gaming: Stop Your Friendlies}} and {{Trn|Mega Smash Mondays 240}}, 2nd at {{Trn|The Comeback}}, 5th at {{Trn|Low Tide City}}, and 7th at {{Trn|Glitch 8.5 - Konami Code}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Dabuz}}, {{Sm|WaDi}}, and {{Sm|Ned}}.
Since the Aegis' release, they have received very positive reception from competitive players. This is largely owed to Mythra's outstanding mobility and frame data, overall one of the best in the game, alongside her unique Foresight ability, though this is at the cost of her damage output being largely unimpressive. On the other hand, Pyra brings to the table overwhelming power and range, while losing out on mobility and, to an extent, frame data. These polarized attributes overall complement each other very well and leave Pyra and Mythra with few collective weaknesses, most notably a poor recovery with mediocre distance and vulnerability to edgeguarding. As a result, they have seen strong usage since their debut, with {{Sm|Cosmos}}, {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Sparg0}}, and {{Sm|Shuton}} using them to place highly at multiple major events. This strong reception led many players to consider them as one of the best characters in the game, and they were ranked 2nd on the first tier list, ranking in the S+ tier alongside {{SSBU|Steve}} and {{SSBU|Joker}}.
*{{Sm|Sparg0|Mexico}} - The best Aegis player in the world. Placed 1st at {{Trn|Cherry's Glasmine 001}}, 2nd at {{Trn|Abierto Puerto Vallarta}}, and 3rd at {{Trn|Smash Ultimate Summit 3}} and {{Trn|Riptide}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Tweek}}, {{Sm|Zackray}}, and {{Sm|Maister}}. Online, placed 1st at {{Trn|Collision Online 2021}} and 2nd at {{Trn|Maruchan Gaming Series}}. Currently ranked 1st on the [[Wi-Fi Warrior Rank v7]].
 
However following this list, Aegis's overall representation began taking a noticeable hit as more players began exploiting their weaknesses, most notably their poor recovery. In addition, Pyra and Mythra's individual weaknesses began more apparent as the metagame shifted towards a campier, more patient playstyle. Although Mythra's speed allows her to overwhelm other characters and match the speed of faster characters, her mediocre KO ability and lightweight means that she will likely be KO'd first. Conversely, although Pyra has the raw power, her slow mobility leaves her vulnerable to camping and being overwhelmed herself. Finally, as the Aegis were often one of the most common characters in competitive play and have a rather linear playstyle, many players began figuring out the matchup and therefore were better equipped at dealing with the characters. Due to all of this, the Aegis' representation at the top level saw a small decline in 2023: most notably, Cosmos's results took a massive downturn in 2023 while MkLeo's results also took a hit as he dropped and added Aegis to his roster several times. Nevertheless, Aegis's overall representation remained strong, with Shuton continuing to pilot the character alongside Olimar and Sparg0 successfully using the character in certain matchups, albeit with increasingly mixed results as the year went on. As such, the Aegis only suffered a small drop to 5th on the second tier list, falling to the S-tier.