Yoshi (SSBU): Difference between revisions

|ranking = 20

As in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', ''Ultimate'' uses all of Kazumi Totaka's ''Yoshi's Story'' voice clips that were last used in ''Brawl''.

Yoshi is ranked 20th out of 82 on the current [[tier list]], placing him in the A+ tier. This is a significant improvement from his 33rd out of 54 placement in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', and it's his best placement in the series.

As stated previously, Yoshi sports excellent mobility: he has the 27th fastest [[walking speed]], the 19th fastest [[dashing speed]] (with an above-average [[initial dash]] as well), the single fastest [[air speed]] in the game, and the 14th highest [[air acceleration]]. Additionally, Yoshi sports among the highest [[jump]]ing prowesses in the game; this can especially be owed to his [[double jump]], which is the second-highest in the game, only behind {{SSBU|Mewtwo}}'s. Along with this, his double jump possesses a unique form of subtractive knockback [[armor]] that is active immediately on frame 1, granting him an excellent combo breaker. However, his [[traction]] and [[gravity]] are the 23rd and 20th lowest in the game, respectively; further compounding this, his [[fall]]ing and [[fast-fall]]ing speeds are among the bottom 10 in the game (the 7th slowest to be specific). Thus, Yoshi is quite speedy overall, yet at the same time, he's one of the floatiest characters in the game, which is incredibly unorthodox for a heavyweight, arguably more so than any other in the game.

However, Yoshi is not without a few nerfs. His [[up tilt]] has less range, no longer hitting opponents up close, which limits its combo potential to hitting opponents above or behind him, and forces Yoshi to use his improved forward tilt in front of himself. [[Dash attack]] can no longer cross-up shields, making it more punishable and risky as an approach option. Finally, Yoshi's overall jump height, while still impressive, has nevertheless been lowered, hampering his vertical survivability offstage; further compounding this are the increased ending lag on air dodges and the ability to use one at a time before landing or getting hit, forcing Yoshi to cautiously use his own air dodge in tandem with his recovery options to avoid a guaranteed self-destruct. Of note is that Yoshi still retains one of his most noticeable flaws from ''SSB4'', that being his very underwhelming grab game.

Overall, Yoshi's changes have improved his core kit from ''SSB4'', resulting in a lower learning curve; while this doesn't change his playstyle significantly, this allows Yoshi to better play to his strengths thanks his moves' improved consistency and utility. Because of this, and a comparatively lower amount of nerfs, Yoshi is a significantly better character than he was in ''SSB4'', resulting in a positive perception since the game's release that has only improved over time.   

*Yoshi uses a {{iw|mariowiki|Yoshi Egg}} as his shield instead of a bubble-like the rest of the cast. Rather than shrinking, his shield grows darker as it weakens, rendering him immune to [[shield stab]]bing.

|usmashdesc=A bicycle kick. The attack has a clean hitbox and can be a potential KO option. It can hit opponents who are behind Yoshi but has somewhat punishable ending lag.

|fairdesc=Rears his head back and then performs a downward headbutt. Possibly Yoshi's best edge guarding tool, with both hitboxes dealing an impressive amount of damage, knockback, and the tip is a [[meteor smash]]. But it has significant startup lag (16 frames) and can no longer autocancel in a short hop.

|bairdesc=Swings his tail upward, then downward, and then upward. Moderate startup lag, with its first hit coming out at frame 11, but has a solid damage output and good knockback. Grounded opponents receive low vertical knockback from the first two hits, making them effective at starting combos. Autocancels in a full hop.

|dairdesc=A {{iw|mariowiki|Flutter Jump}}-styled series of kicks. Notorious for being the most damaging aerial move in every installment of the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series, it deals 28% base damage if all the hits connect. Hits link reliably into each other and the final hit has high base knockback, making the move a powerful vertical KO option when near the top blast zone.

|grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}})

|pummeldesc=Chews the opponent. A relatively fast pummel that doesn't deal too much damage.

|fsdesc=Yoshi rushes forward and attacks the opponent with an upward headbutt. If the attack hits, it cuts to a cinematic cutscene that occurs in a rocky gorge. Suddenly, various colored Yoshis are seen stampeding down the gorge, and they attack by trampling the opponent. It is almost identical to a segment seen in the ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' [[opening movie]], which features a similar stampede in a comparable rocky environment before Yoshi himself stops briefly to observe the stampede. The entire Final Smash deals up to 48.428571% damage, but it can only trap up to 3 opponents at a time. The cutsence portion of the Final Smash is intended to deal 30% over 70 frames, however in practice there is an additional frame that adds another 0.<span style="text-decoration:overline;">428571</span>%. The cutscene damage also ignores all damage modifiers, including the 1v1 multiplier.

*Bursts out of a Yoshi Egg and strikes a pose.

*{{Sm|Bluesky|France}} - The best Yoshi player in Europe, with several strong placements at European events including 25th at the major {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2022}} and the supermajor {{Trn|Temple: Hermès Edition}}.

*{{Sm|JMafia|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the United States for most of the game's competitive lifespan, having placed 33rd at the major {{Trn|CEO 2021}} as well as the supermajors {{Trn|2GG: Kongo Saga}} and {{Trn|Let's Make Moves Miami}}.

*{{Sm|Meme|Mexico}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world in the early metagame who was a top 5 player in Mexico during his prime. Although he had lower activity in the post-online metagame, he has still seen strong results, including placing 7th at the supermajor {{Trn|Smash Factor X}}.

*{{Sm|Myles|USA}} - The best Yoshi player in North America in 2021, ranking 83rd on the [[OrionRank Ultimate: Eclipse]] and notably placing 13th at the supermajor {{Trn|Riptide}} defeating {{Sm|Zomba}} and {{Sm|Ned}}.  

*{{Sm|Ron|Japan}} - One of the strongest hidden bosses in ''Ultimate'', and is also one of the best Yoshi players in the world despite his limited activity, having been ranked 50th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]] and placing highly at multiple events, including 2nd at the major {{Trn|Sumabato SP Ultimate}} and 7th at the major {{Trn|Umebura SP 6}}.

*{{Sm|Rotsuku|Japan}} - One of the best Yoshi players in Japan in the early metagame, placing highly at several majors including 13th at the major {{Trn|Umebura SP 5}}, 17th at the supermajor {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major 2019}}, and 25th at the supermajor {{Trn|EVO 2019}}.

*{{Sm|Suarez|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world in early metagame and the first Yoshi player ranked on a notable global ranking, ranking 49th on the [[Spring 2019 PGRU]].  

*{{Sm|Yoshidora|Japan}} - The best Yoshi player of all-time. He is the only Yoshi player to win a major, doing so at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}}, and the only Yoshi player to be ranked top 10 on a global ranking, ranking 10th on the [[LumiRank Mid-Year 2023]].

However, Yoshi's representation began to take a hit as the metagame progressed. Yoshi's best players in the early metagame either saw a stagnation in results (Suarez) or became far less active than before (Meme). Furthermore, Yoshi's weaknesses, particularly his linear recovery and weakness to disjoints, became more apparent. These negatives slowly decreased Yoshi's representation in the metagame, with it ultimately hitting 36th by the end of 2022.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRlzy4z_dpqb2ZRhGoqtbDcuvUKz_ROsMZHGegon53M/edit#gid=329450080|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2022}}</ref> Nevertheless, Yoshi players still managed to find success, particularly in Japan thanks to Ron's occasional appearances in tournaments and the rise of {{Sm|Yoshidora}}, who since the pandemic period has place top 8 at multiple majors. These strong results have helped keep Yoshi's reputation afloat, and as a result Yoshi currently sits at 20th on the tier list in the high tier, with some players believing he should be ranked higher, especially in Japan, where panelists for the first tier list ranked him in the top 10.

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