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[[File:300px_Marth_Forward_Smash_Hitbox_Melee.gif|thumb|Hitbox duration of Marth's forward smash.]]
[[File:Marth_Forward_Smash_Hitbox_Melee.gif|thumb|Hitbox duration of Marth's forward smash.]]
[[File:Fsmash_with_text.png|thumb|Hitbox data]]
[[File:Fsmash_with_text.png|thumb|Hitbox data]]
[[File:Fsmash_lighten_mode.png|thumb|All 4 hitbox frames together]]
[[File:Fsmash_lighten_mode.png|thumb|All 4 hitbox frames together]]
==Overview==
==Overview==
Marth does a overhead slash, doing 14% at the base, and a high 20% at the tip with very high base knockback (the 2nd highest among [[forward smash]]es, only after {{mvsub|Pichu|SSBM|forward smash|alt=Pichu's}}), but with lower knockback scaling. This attack is fast with great vertical and horizontal [[reach]], and high power when tipped, with a tipped forward smash being capable of reliably KOing under 100%, and can even KO under 75% in certain situations. Additionally, the [[tipper]] is not that difficult to land when [[space]]d properly, with its rather large [[hitbox]] size. All of this combined with its ability to [[edgeguard]] opponents rather easily makes this one of best forward smashes in ''Melee''. However, if the move is not [[sweet spot]]ted, it deals much lower damage with moderate knockback, and can have difficulty KOing from the center stage under 150%. Also, since this move has a large amount of [[ending lag]], the move is very [[punish]]able if whiffed and/or not spaced properly. Nonetheless, it remains as Marth`s main KO move (other than his {{mvsub|Marth|SSBM|down aerial}}), being Marth's strongest attack in terms of damage outside a charged [[Shield Breaker]], while having the [[startup]] and reach to be easily landable.
Marth does an overhead slash, doing 14% at the base, and a high 20% at the tip with very high base knockback (the 2nd highest among [[forward smash]]es, only after {{mvsub|Pichu|SSBM|forward smash|alt=Pichu's}}), but with lower knockback scaling. This attack is fast with great vertical and horizontal [[reach]], and high power when tipped, with a tipped forward smash being capable of reliably KOing under 100%, and can even KO under 75% in certain situations. Additionally, the [[tipper]] is not that difficult to land when [[space]]d properly, with its rather large [[hitbox]] size. All of this combined with its ability to [[edgeguard]] opponents rather easily makes this one of best forward smashes in ''Melee''. However, if the move is not [[sweet spot]]ted, it deals much lower damage with moderate knockback, and can have difficulty KOing from the center stage under 150%. Also, since this move has a large amount of [[ending lag]], the move is very [[punish]]able if whiffed and/or not spaced properly. Nonetheless, it remains as Marth's main KO move (other than his {{mvsub|Marth|SSBM|down aerial}}), being Marth's strongest attack in terms of damage outside a charged [[Shield Breaker]], while having the [[startup]] and reach to be easily landable.


==Hitboxes==
==Hitboxes==
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==Trivia==
==Trivia==
* Marth's forward smash is the second strongest at 0% damage (only Pichu's forward smash has more knockback due to an even higher base knockback of 90), but only the 8th strongest at 100% damage. This is due to the rather low knockback growth on Marth's forward smash. His has only 70 while most other characters have 100.
* Marth's forward smash is the second strongest at 0% damage (only Pichu's forward smash has more knockback due to an even higher base knockback of 90), but only the 8th strongest at 100% damage. This is due to the rather low knockback scaling on Marth's forward smash. His has only 70 while most other characters have 100.
**Similarly, Roy`s forward smash is the third strongest at 0% damage, but the 12th strongest at 100% damage. This is due to it having a scaling of 65.


==Similar moves==
==Similar moves==
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[[Category:Marth (SSBM)]]
[[Category:Marth (SSBM)]]
[[Category:Forward smashes]]
[[Category:Forward smashes (SSBM)]]
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