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==In ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U''==
==In ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U''==
8-Player Smash is a mode accessible within the Smash menu. It is similar to the regular Smash mode, but it allows up to eight players to join, instead of only four as in other modes. [[Coin Battle]]s and [[Special Smash]] cannot be used in conjunction with 8-Player Smash. The 8-Player Smash mode can still be played with four or fewer players, in which case it functions largely identically to the regular Smash mode, with the exception of being able to do Coin Battles or Special Smash. With more than four players, many stages function differently, and some stages cannot be selected depending on the number of players.  
8-Player Smash is a mode accessible within the Smash menu. It is similar to the regular Smash mode, but it allows up to eight players to join, instead of only four as in other modes. [[Coin Battle]]s and [[Special Smash]] cannot be used in conjunction with 8-Player Smash. The 8-Player Smash mode can still be played with four or fewer players, in which case it functions largely identically to the regular Smash mode, with the exception of being unable to partake in Coin Battles or Special Smash. With more than four players, many stages function differently, and some stages cannot be selected depending on the number of players.  


In addition to red, blue, yellow, and green player colors for players 1-4 (red for player 1, blue for player 2, yellow for player 3, green for player 4), players 5-8 use the colors orange, cyan, purple, and slate, respectively. In [[Team Battle]]s, an additional team color, the yellow team, can be selected, in addition to red, blue and green teams.
In addition to red, blue, yellow, and green player colors for players 1-4 (red for player 1, blue for player 2, yellow for player 3, green for player 4), players 5-8 use the colors orange, cyan, purple, and slate, respectively. In [[Team Battle]]s, an additional team color, the yellow team, can be selected, in addition to red, blue and green teams.
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**{{OmegaStage|Wii Fit Studio}} (previously supported max 6 players)
**{{OmegaStage|Wii Fit Studio}} (previously supported max 6 players)
**{{OmegaStage|Woolly World}}
**{{OmegaStage|Woolly World}}
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.0.8'''
*Added 8-player mode versions of the following stages:
**[[Dream Land (64)]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Dream Land (64)}} (DLC)
**[[Suzaku Castle]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Suzaku Castle}} (DLC)
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.1.0'''
*Added 8-player mode versions of the following stages:
**[[Peach's Castle|Peach's Castle (64)]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Peach's Castle}} (DLC)
**[[Hyrule Castle|Hyrule Castle (64)]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Hyrule Castle}} (DLC)
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.1.1'''
*Added 8-player mode versions of the following stages:
**[[Super Mario Maker]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Super Mario Maker}} (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Pirate Ship}} (DLC)
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.1.3'''
*Added 8-player mode versions of the following stages:
**[[Midgar]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Midgar}} (DLC)
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.1.4'''
*Added 8-player mode versions of the following stages:
**[[Umbra Clock Tower]] (DLC)
**{{OmegaStage|Umbra Clock Tower}} (DLC)


==In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''==
==In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''==
8-Player Smash is not a separate mode in ''Ultimate'', and instead, all Smash modes (except for Custom Smash) allow up to eight players to join. Stages are not restricted by number of players, and only a few stages have differences by number of players.
8-Player Smash is not a separate mode in ''Ultimate'', and instead, all Smash modes (except for Custom Smash) allow up to eight players to join. Stages are not restricted by number of players, and only a few stages have differences by number of players.


Players 1-6 reuse their ''SSB4'' colors (red for player 1, blue for player 2, yellow for player 3, green for player 4, orange for player 5, cyan for player 6), while players 7 and 8 have a switch of colors (pink for player 7 and violet for player 8). In [[Team Battle]]s, the yellow team can be selected regardless of the number of players.
Players 1-6 reuse their ''SSB4'' colors (red for player 1, blue for player 2, yellow for player 3, green for player 4, orange for player 5, cyan for player 6), while players 7 and 8 have a switch of colors (pink for player 7 and violet for player 8). In [[Team Battle]]s, the yellow team can be selected regardless of the number of players.


{{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}} functions differently in battles with more than four players. In such battles, the Pokémon Trainer will not be visible, but their voice can still be heard. The Poké Ball and its energy effects can be seen travelling to and from the foreground, implying that the Pokémon Trainer is in the foreground, outside of the camera's view.
{{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}} functions differently in battles with more than four players. In such battles, the Pokémon Trainer will not be visible, but their voice can still be heard. The Poké Ball and its energy effects can be seen travelling to and from the foreground, implying that the Pokémon Trainer is in the foreground, outside of the camera's view.


[[Ditto]] cannot be summoned if there are eight fighters
[[Ditto]] cannot be summoned if there are eight fighters.


{{SSBU|Joker}}'s taunts will not summon Morgana with 5 or more fighters.
{{SSBU|Joker}}'s taunts will not summon Morgana with 5 or more fighters.
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==Gallery==
==Gallery==
<gallery>
<gallery>
8-Player Smash Newcomers.jpg |On [[Big Battlefield]].
Match Start (Super Smash Bros. for Wii U).jpg|An 8-player match about to start
8-Player Smash 1.jpg |On [[Palutena's Temple]].
8-PlayerSSBU_1.jpg|An 8-player match on {{SSBU|Battlefield}} in ''Ultimate''.
8-Player Smash 2.jpg |On [[Gaur Plain]].
8-Player Smash 3.jpg |On [[Mario Galaxy]].
8-Player Smash 4.jpg |On [[Onett]].
Match Start (Super Smash Bros. for Wii U).jpg|On [[Castle Siege]]
8-Player Smash Koopalings.png |Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings on [[Mario Galaxy]].
8-PlayerSSBU_1.jpg|On {{SSBU|Battlefield}} in ''Ultimate''.
SSBUFireEmblemJPTwitter1.jpg|All of the {{uv|Fire Emblem}} veterans on [[Coliseum]].
8 Player Smash Pokémon.jpg|All eight Pokémon characters on {{SSBU|Big Battlefield}} in ''Ultimate''
Fire Emblem 8 Player Smash.jpg|All eight Fire Emblem characters on {{SSBU|Big Battlefield}} in ''Ultimate''
</gallery>
</gallery>


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**{{SSB4|Final Destination}} being shown with 5 players in a [[:File:SSB4-Wii U challenge image R04C04.png|challenge grid image]].
**{{SSB4|Final Destination}} being shown with 5 players in a [[:File:SSB4-Wii U challenge image R04C04.png|challenge grid image]].
**Final Destination being shown with 6 players in another [[:File:SSB4-Wii U challenge image R10C03.png|challenge grid image]].
**Final Destination being shown with 6 players in another [[:File:SSB4-Wii U challenge image R10C03.png|challenge grid image]].
***It is unknown what exactly dictates why some stages are playable and some aren't, as a smaller stage like [[Smashville]] is playable but a larger stage like [[Boxing Ring]] is not.
*The normal versions of Flat Zone X, Pac-Land, and Skyworld are the only stages without a maximum limit of 4 or 8 players (6).
*The normal versions of Flat Zone X, Pac-Land, and Skyworld are the only stages without a maximum limit of 4 or 8 players (6).
*While Ω forms of stages are available in 8-Player Smash, {{SSB4|Final Destination}} itself cannot be selected in 8-Player Smash. This is likely due to the visual-intensiveness of the stage's background animations.
*While Ω forms of stages are available in 8-Player Smash, {{SSB4|Final Destination}} itself cannot be selected in 8-Player Smash.  
*After the 1.0.8 update, players no longer have to select a separate page for Ω forms and can now simply press a button on the controller for the Ω version, like in a normal Smash. This means that the blue stage select color scheme previously used for the Ω form page is now unused.
*After the 1.0.8 update, players no longer have to select a separate page for Ω forms and can now simply press a button on the controller for the Ω version, like in a normal Smash. This means that the blue stage select color scheme previously used for the Ω form page is now unused.
*Every familiar stage in ''Smash Wii U'' has at least its Ω form available in 8-Player Smash. Only four of them ([[Delfino Plaza]], [[Halberd]], [[Port Town Aero Dive]] and [[Pirate Ship]]) have their normal form unavailable in 8-Player Smash.
*Every familiar stage in ''Smash Wii U'' has at least its Ω form available in 8-Player Smash. Only four of them ([[Delfino Plaza]], [[Halberd]], [[Port Town Aero Dive]] and [[Pirate Ship]]) have their normal form unavailable in 8-Player Smash.
**Pirate Ship and [[Miiverse]] are the only DLC stages in ''Smash Wii U'' that are not completely available in 8-Player Smash, with Pirate Ship being unavailable in its normal form and Miiverse being unavailable in either form.
**Pirate Ship and [[Miiverse]] are the only DLC stages in ''Smash Wii U'' that are not completely available in 8-Player Smash, with Pirate Ship being unavailable in its normal form and Miiverse being unavailable in either form.
*Through game modifications, it is possible to allow any stage or Ω form to be selected in 8-Player Smash. The stages are all functional, but some stages (such as [[Miiverse]]) will cause the game to lag due to the intensity.
*Through game modifications, it is possible to allow any stage or Ω form to be selected in 8-Player Smash. The stages are all functional, but [[Miiverse]] will notably cause the game to lag.
*The majority of fighters have separate models for 8-Player Smash battles, to improve game performance. These models lack fluid hand animation, instead using sharp transitions between different hand states.
*The majority of fighters have separate models for 8-Player Smash battles, to improve game performance. These models lack fluid hand animation, instead using sharp transitions between different hand states.
*Due to the fact that everything on Ω forms is scaled up in 8-Player Smash, stages with fog in the background have the fog visibly covering more of the geometry. This is most noticeable on the Ω form of [[Kalos Pokémon League]].
*Due to the fact that everything on Ω forms is scaled up in 8-Player Smash, stages with fog in the background have the fog visibly covering more of the geometry. This is most noticeable on the Ω form of [[Kalos Pokémon League]].
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