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As in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', ''Ultimate'' uses all of Kazumi Totaka's ''Yoshi's Story'' voice clips that were last used in ''Brawl''.
As in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', ''Ultimate'' uses all of Kazumi Totaka's ''Yoshi's Story'' voice clips that were last used in ''Brawl''.


Yoshi is ranked 14th out of 82 on the current [[tier list]], placing him at the bottom of the A+ tier. This is a significant improvement from his 33rd out of 54 placement in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', and it's his best placement in the series. Yoshi is gifted with high movement speed all around, especially his [[Air speed|air mobility]], allowing him to often weave in and out of opposing attacks and microspace effectively, as well as allowing him to have fantastic [[Edgeguarding|edgeguarding]] with his long lasting neutral air and [[Egg Throw]], with his neutral air also being a strong [[Out of shield|out of shield option]]. He also has high damage output due to his solid combo game, and he has a fantastic air game, with versatile and powerful aerials, like his [[Yoshi (SSBU)/Down aerial|down air]], which is the most damaging down aerial in the game. In addition, he has among the best endurances in ''Ultimate'', as not only he's heavy, but his Double Jump armor allows him to take potentially fatal attacks, which makes it difficult to KO him. His unique shield also always covers his entire body, protecting him from [[shield stabbing]]. Yoshi also has a solid recovery, with [[Egg Throw]] giving Yoshi some height whenever it is used, a high double jump, and a directional [[air dodge]] thanks to the new mechanic added into ''Ultimate''.
Yoshi is ranked 14th out of 82 on the current [[tier list]], placing him at the bottom of the A+ tier. This is a significant improvement from his 33rd out of 54 placement in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', and is his best placement in the series. Yoshi is gifted with high movement speed all around, especially his [[Air speed|air mobility]], allowing him to often weave in and out of opposing attacks and microspace effectively, as well as allowing him to have fantastic [[edgeguarding]] with his long-lasting neutral aerial and [[Egg Throw]], with his neutral aerial also being a strong [[out of shield]] option. He also has high damage output due to his solid combo game, and he has a fantastic air game, with versatile and powerful aerials, like his [[Yoshi (SSBU)/Down aerial|down air]], which is the most damaging down aerial in the game. In addition, he has among the best endurances in ''Ultimate'', as not only is he heavy, but his Double Jump armor allows him to take potentially fatal attacks, which makes it difficult to KO him. His unique shield also always covers his entire body, protecting him from [[shield stabbing]]. Yoshi also has a solid recovery, with [[Egg Throw]] giving him some height whenever it is used, a high double jump, and a directional [[air dodge]] thanks to the new mechanic added into ''Ultimate''.


Despite these strengths, Yoshi still has several notable flaws, as due to possessing little amount of range, it can cause him to get stuffed out by characters with disjointed hitboxes and struggle against certain zoners. In addition, some of his special moves are also inconsistent, with [[Egg Roll]] being considered one of the worst [[special moves]] in the entire game, and [[Egg Lay]] being rather niche. His double jump armor also has a weakness where if a strong enough move hits Yoshi, it breaks armor and can potentially gimp him when he’s offstage, as his recovery options are limited. Yoshi also struggles to contend with juggling, as he's surprisingly floaty for a heavyweight and most of his aerial attacks are ineffective when he's in disadvantage, as they have a noticeable amount of start-up and/or ending lag, which can also limit his approach options.
Despite these strengths, Yoshi still has several notable flaws, as due to possessing little amount of range, it can cause him to get stuffed out by characters with disjointed hitboxes and struggle against certain zoners. In addition, some of his [[special move]]s are also inconsistent, with [[Egg Roll]] being considered one of the worst special moves in the entire game, and [[Egg Lay]] being rather niche. His double jump armor also has a weakness where if a strong enough move hits Yoshi, it breaks armor and can potentially gimp him when he’s offstage, as his recovery options are limited. Yoshi also struggles to contend with juggling, as he's surprisingly floaty for a heavyweight and most of his aerial attacks are ineffective when he's in disadvantage, as they have a noticeable amount of start-up and/or ending lag, which can also limit his approach options.


Overall, Yoshi is considered a strong character in the metagame, particularly in Japan, who considers Yoshi a top 10 character and is home to a slew of top Yoshi players such as {{Sm|Yoshidora}} and {{Sm|Ron}}. Although less popular outside of Japan, Yoshi continues to have a positive reception and strong results from players such as {{Sm|Meme}}.
Overall, Yoshi is considered a strong character in the metagame, particularly in Japan, where he is considered a top 10 character, and is home to a slew of top Yoshi players such as {{Sm|Yoshidora}} and {{Sm|Ron}}. Although less popular outside of Japan, Yoshi continues to have a positive reception and strong results from players such as {{Sm|Meme}}.


==Attributes==
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|fsname=Stampede!
|fsname=Stampede!
|fsdmg=1% (dash), 4% (headbutt), 30.428571% (cutscene), 13% (last hit)
|fsdmg=1% (dash), 4% (headbutt), 30.428571% (cutscene), 13% (last hit)
|fsdesc=Yoshi rushes forward and attacks the opponent with an upward headbutt. If the attack hits, it cuts to a cinematic cutscene that occurs in a rocky gorge. Suddenly, various colored Yoshis are seen stampeding down the gorge, and they attack by trampling the opponent. It is almost identical to a segment seen in the ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' [[opening movie]], which features a similar stampede in a comparable rocky environment before Yoshi himself stops briefly to observe the stampede. The entire Final Smash deals up to 48.428571% damage, but it can only trap up to 3 opponents at a time. The cutsence portion of the Final Smash is intended to deal 30% over 70 frames, however in practice there is an additional frame that adds another 0.<span style="text-decoration:overline;">428571</span>%. The cutscene damage also ignores all damage modifiers, including the 1v1 multiplier.
|fsdesc=Yoshi rushes forward and attacks the opponent with an upward headbutt. If the attack hits, it cuts to a cinematic cutscene that occurs in a rocky gorge. Suddenly, various colored Yoshis are seen stampeding down the gorge, and they attack by trampling the opponent. It is almost identical to a segment seen in the ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' [[opening movie]], which features a similar stampede in a comparable rocky environment before Yoshi himself stops briefly to observe the stampede. The entire Final Smash deals up to 48.428571% damage, but it can only trap up to 3 opponents at a time. The cutsence portion of the Final Smash is intended to deal 30% over 70 frames; however, in practice, there is an additional frame that adds another 0.<span style="text-decoration:overline;">428571</span>%. The cutscene damage also ignores all damage modifiers, including the 1v1 multiplier.
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*{{Sm|Fui|Japan}} - First known for his back-to-back 25th place finishes at the supermajors {{Trn|Umebura SP 9}} and {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}} despite being relatively new to the offline scene, and has since become the third-best Yoshi player in Japan, placing 2nd at {{Trn|WAVE Champions 6}} defeating {{Sm|KEN}}, 5th at {{Trn|UltCore Second}} defeating {{Sm|ApolloKage}}, and 9th at [[Tournament:DELTA 7 FAT|DELTA 7 [FAT]]] defeating {{Sm|Neo|p=Japan}}.
*{{Sm|Fui|Japan}} - First known for his back-to-back 25th place finishes at the supermajors {{Trn|Umebura SP 9}} and {{Trn|Kagaribi 9}} despite being relatively new to the offline scene, and has since become the third-best Yoshi player in Japan, placing 2nd at {{Trn|WAVE Champions 6}} defeating {{Sm|KEN}}, 5th at {{Trn|UltCore Second}} defeating {{Sm|ApolloKage}}, and 9th at [[Tournament:DELTA 7 FAT|DELTA 7 [FAT]]] defeating {{Sm|Neo|p=Japan}}.
*{{Sm|JMafia|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the United States since late-2019, where he was first known for defeating {{Sm|ESAM}} to place 3rd at {{Trn|Fight For 95}}. He has seen success at several majors since, including placing 17th at {{Trn|Cirque Du CFL 3}} and {{Trn|MomoCon 2022}}, defeating {{Sm|Kola}} in the former tournament while using Yoshi to win the last 2 games, and placing 33rd at {{Trn|2GG: Kongo Saga}} and {{Trn|Let's Make Moves Miami}}.
*{{Sm|JMafia|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the United States since late 2019, when he was first known for defeating {{Sm|ESAM}} to place 3rd at {{Trn|Fight For 95}}. He has seen success at several majors since, including placing 17th at {{Trn|Cirque Du CFL 3}} and {{Trn|MomoCon 2022}}, defeating {{Sm|Kola}} in the former tournament while using Yoshi to win the last 2 games, and placing 33rd at {{Trn|2GG: Kongo Saga}} and {{Trn|Let's Make Moves Miami}}.
*{{Sm|Meme|Mexico}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world in the early metagame who was a top 5 player in Mexico during his prime, winning several large Mexican events including {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}} and {{Trn|BIT MASTER MTY 9}}. He has also seen success outside of Mexico, most notably placing 9th at {{Trn|Low Tier City 7}} defeating {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} and 17th at {{Trn|GENESIS 7}} defeating {{Sm|VoiD}}. Although less active since 2019, he continues to place highly at events he does attend, most notably placing 7th at {{Trn|Smash Factor X}}.
*{{Sm|Meme|Mexico}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world, and a top 5 player in Mexico, during his prime in the early metagame, winning several large Mexican events including {{Trn|Smash Fest to the Sky}} and {{Trn|BIT MASTER MTY 9}}. He has also seen success outside of Mexico, most notably placing 9th at {{Trn|Low Tier City 7}} defeating {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} and 17th at {{Trn|GENESIS 7}} defeating {{Sm|VoiD}}. Although less active since 2019, he continues to place highly at events he does attend, most notably placing 7th at {{Trn|Smash Factor X}}.
*{{Sm|Ron|Japan}} - The second-best Yoshi player of all-time, having been a top Yoshi player since 2019 thanks to performances such as 2nd at {{Trn|Sumabato SP Ultimate}} defeating {{Sm|Miya|p=Honshu}}, 3rd at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 6}} defeating {{Sm|Shuton}}, and 9th at {{Trn|Battle of BC 6}} defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}}. However due to his location he infrequently attends tournaments, and as such is often considered ''Ultimate''{{'}}s strongest hidden boss.  
*{{Sm|Ron|Japan}} - The second-best Yoshi player of all-time, having been a top Yoshi player since 2019 thanks to performances such as 2nd at {{Trn|Sumabato SP Ultimate}} defeating {{Sm|Miya|p=Honshu}}, 3rd at {{Trn|Sumabato SP 6}} defeating {{Sm|Shuton}}, and 9th at {{Trn|Battle of BC 6}} defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}}. However, due to his location, he infrequently attends tournaments, and as such, is often considered ''Ultimate''{{'}}s strongest hidden boss.  
*{{Sm|Rotsuku|Japan}} - The second-best Yoshi player in the world in 2019, placing highly at a multitude of majors including 13th at {{Trn|Umebura SP 3}} defeating {{Sm|Kuro}} and {{Trn|Umebura SP 5}} defeating {{Sm|Tea}}, as well as 25th at {{Trn|EVO 2019}} defeating {{Sm|VoiD}}. He became significantly less active in the post-online metagame, with his performances varying at the events he does attend.
*{{Sm|Rotsuku|Japan}} - The second-best Yoshi player in the world in 2019, placing highly at a multitude of majors including 13th at {{Trn|Umebura SP 3}} defeating {{Sm|Kuro}} and {{Trn|Umebura SP 5}} defeating {{Sm|Tea}}, as well as 25th at {{Trn|EVO 2019}} defeating {{Sm|VoiD}}. He became significantly less active in the post-online metagame, with his performances varying at the events he does attend.
*{{Sm|Suarez|USA}} - The best Yoshi player in ''Ultimate''{{'}}s early months and the first Yoshi player ever ranked globally, ranking 49th on the [[Spring 2019 PGRU]] thanks to consistently strong performances at majors including 9th at {{Trn|Collision 2019}}, 17th at {{Trn|MomoCon 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Pound 2019}}. Although less consistent since 2019, he remained one of the best Yoshi players in the United States, with his best recent performances being 17th at {{Trn|Glitch - Infinite }} and 25th at {{Trn|Collision 2022}}, before becoming inactive in early-2023.
*{{Sm|Suarez|USA}} - The best Yoshi player in ''Ultimate''{{'}}s early months and the first Yoshi player ever ranked globally, ranking 49th on the [[Spring 2019 PGRU]] thanks to consistently strong performances at majors including 9th at {{Trn|Collision 2019}}, 17th at {{Trn|MomoCon 2019}}, and 25th at {{Trn|Pound 2019}}. Although less consistent since 2019, he remained one of the best Yoshi players in the United States, with his best recent performances being 17th at {{Trn|Glitch - Infinite }} and 25th at {{Trn|Collision 2022}}, before becoming inactive in early 2023.
*{{Sm|Yoshidora|Japan}} - The best Yoshi player of all-time who is the only Yoshi player ever ranked top 10 globally, ranking 8th on the [[LumiRank 2023]]. He most notably won {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}}, the only Yoshi player to win a major, and had came close several other times, such as placing 2nd at both {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 14.5 "in Hyogo"}} and {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 15 "FINAL"}} as well as 3rd at {{Trn|Umebura SP 9}}.
*{{Sm|Yoshidora|Japan}} - The best Yoshi player of all-time, as well as the only Yoshi player ever ranked top 10 globally, ranking 8th on the [[LumiRank 2023]]. He most notably won {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}}, making him the only Yoshi player to win a major, and has come close several other times, such as placing 2nd at both {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 14.5 "in Hyogo"}} and {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 15 "FINAL"}}, as well as 3rd at {{Trn|Umebura SP 9}}.


===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
Following ''Ultimate''{{'}}s release, numerous players of all skill levels took an interest in Yoshi due to his overall similarity to how he was in the previous game, making him rather easy to play and learn the game with. Yoshi's new strengths, especially his improved KO power, also reinvigorated his playerbase from the previous game, allowing him to have a sizeable representation in the early metagame, which was spearheaded by players such as {{Sm|Suarez}}, {{Sm|Meme}}, and {{Sm|Ron}}. As such, most players considered Yoshi to be a high-tier character, with his overall representation peaking at 20th by the end of 2019.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AJs-mj5TTdkmkl7nhj4twJymVPTLTUdT0MBToL1cxDs/edit#gid=342014565|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2019}}</ref>
Following ''Ultimate''{{'}}s release, numerous players of all skill levels took an interest in Yoshi due to his overall similarity to how he was in the previous game, making him rather easy to play and learn the game with. Yoshi's new strengths, especially his improved KO power, also reinvigorated his playerbase from the previous game, allowing him to have a sizeable representation in the early metagame, which was spearheaded by players such as {{Sm|Suarez}}, {{Sm|Meme}}, and {{Sm|Ron}}. As such, most players considered Yoshi to be a high-tier character, with his overall representation peaking at 20th by the end of 2019.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AJs-mj5TTdkmkl7nhj4twJymVPTLTUdT0MBToL1cxDs/edit#gid=342014565|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2019}}</ref>


However, Yoshi's representation began to take a hit as the metagame progressed. Yoshi's best players in the early metagame either saw a stagnation in results (Suarez) or became far less active than before (Meme). Furthermore, Yoshi's weaknesses, particularly his linear recovery and weakness to disjoints, became more apparent. These negatives slowly decreased Yoshi's representation in the metagame, with it ultimately hitting 36th by the end of 2022.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRlzy4z_dpqb2ZRhGoqtbDcuvUKz_ROsMZHGegon53M/edit#gid=329450080|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2022}}</ref> Nevertheless, Yoshi players still managed to find success, particularly in Japan thanks to Ron's occasional appearances in tournaments and the rise of {{Sm|Yoshidora}}, who since the pandemic period has place top 8 at multiple majors. These strong results would help keep Yoshi's reputation afloat. As a result, Yoshi would sit at 20th on the first tier list at the top of the high tier, with some players believing he should be ranked higher, especially in Japan, where panelists for this tier list ranked him in the top 10. This higher perception of Yoshi would be reflected further in the second tier list with him being six places higher, at 14th place.
However, Yoshi's representation began to take a hit as the metagame progressed. His best players in the early metagame either saw a stagnation in results (Suarez) or became far less active than before (Meme). Furthermore, Yoshi's weaknesses, particularly his linear recovery and weakness to disjoints, became more apparent. These negatives slowly decreased Yoshi's representation in the metagame, with it ultimately hitting 36th by the end of 2022.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRlzy4z_dpqb2ZRhGoqtbDcuvUKz_ROsMZHGegon53M/edit#gid=329450080|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2022}}</ref> Nevertheless, Yoshi players still managed to find success, particularly in Japan, thanks to Ron's occasional appearances in tournaments and the rise of {{Sm|Yoshidora}}, who has placed top 8 at multiple majors since the pandemic period. These strong results would help keep Yoshi's reputation afloat. As a result, Yoshi would sit at 20th on the first tier list at the top of the high tier, with some players believing he should be ranked higher, especially in Japan, where panelists for this tier list ranked him in the top 10. This higher perception of Yoshi would be reflected further in the second tier list, with him being six places higher, at 14th place.


=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: Jurassic Journey==
=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: Jurassic Journey==