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:It would've been better if you quoted only the parts you wanted to address instead of the entire paragraph, bringing the talk page to 2/3rds the archive limit. Especially needless when you copy an entire paragraph just to say "this is fine". The majority of things you brought up are sensible changes and probably could be changed on the article without discussion. | :It would've been better if you quoted only the parts you wanted to address instead of the entire paragraph, bringing the talk page to 2/3rds the archive limit. Especially needless when you copy an entire paragraph just to say "this is fine". The majority of things you brought up are sensible changes and probably could be changed on the article without discussion. | ||
:I do have a few nitpicks of my own. First regarding Rest KO%, the unwritten guideline is that KO%s are on Final Destination, no Rage, optimal DI, and either fresh or no staling; most legal stages are similar in size to FD, so these restrictions give a good baseline and testing every percent on Palutena's Temple would result in ridiculously high values. With that in mind, Bowser is KOd around 75-80% (depending on fresh or not), so the percent just needs to be raised a bit. Second, if you have issue with the term "Neutral attack", see this [[Talk:Neutral_attack#Move_proposal|failed proposal]] about the matter. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 10:36, May 6, 2023 (EDT) | :I do have a few nitpicks of my own. First regarding Rest KO%, the unwritten guideline is that KO%s are on Final Destination, no Rage, optimal DI, and either fresh or no staling; most legal stages are similar in size to FD, so these restrictions give a good baseline and testing every percent on Palutena's Temple would result in ridiculously high values. With that in mind, Bowser is KOd around 75-80% (depending on fresh or not), so the percent just needs to be raised a bit. Second, if you have issue with the term "Neutral attack", see this [[Talk:Neutral_attack#Move_proposal|failed proposal]] about the matter. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 10:36, May 6, 2023 (EDT) | ||
::Thank you for replying! I wanted to be very thorough with my analysis, but I had no idea there was an archive limit and I also had no idea that there was an unwritten rule about KO percents. That could probably change! And I had no idea that the neutral attack thing had a proposal that failed. I think that's very silly, but honestly I don't care enough to bother with making an effort to change it. I am a Jigglypuff specialist, after all. I will go ahead and start making some changes to the Attributes section involving the things I brought up earlier. Thank you for your helpful critique! [[User:CitrusJigglypuff|CitrusJigglypuff]] ([[User talk:CitrusJigglypuff|talk]]) | ::Thank you for replying! I wanted to be very thorough with my analysis, but I had no idea there was an archive limit and I also had no idea that there was an unwritten rule about KO percents. That could probably change! And I had no idea that the neutral attack thing had a proposal that failed. I think that's very silly, but honestly I don't care enough to bother with making an effort to change it. I am a Jigglypuff specialist, after all. I will go ahead and start making some changes to the Attributes section involving the things I brought up earlier. Thank you for your helpful critique! --[[User:CitrusJigglypuff|CitrusJigglypuff]] ([[User talk:CitrusJigglypuff|talk]]) | ||
:::The [[SmashWiki:Talk_pages#Archiving|archive limit]] is more a rule-of-thumb and I think there was talk of raising it—even if there wasn't a limit, a 21,000 byte talk page post is a bit much. And it isn't a surprise you haven't heard of the unwritten rule because... it isn't written (except for cases like now). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:14, May 6, 2023 (EDT) | :::The [[SmashWiki:Talk_pages#Archiving|archive limit]] is more a rule-of-thumb and I think there was talk of raising it—even if there wasn't a limit, a 21,000 byte talk page post is a bit much. And it isn't a surprise you haven't heard of the unwritten rule because... it isn't written (except for cases like now). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:14, May 6, 2023 (EDT) | ||
::::Understandable. Thank you for letting me know, I'll definitely try to make these a little shorter next time! :) --[[User:CitrusJigglypuff|CitrusJigglypuff]] ([[User talk:CitrusJigglypuff|talk]]) | |||
== Lillis voicing Jigglypuff for the last time == | |||
Is it actually true that ''Ultimate'' is the last time Lillis will ever voice Puff before retiring from voice acting in 2019? There's always a possibility that her voice clips would still be reused in future games. | |||
For example, there were undone edits on [[Mario (SSBU)|Mario]]'s page claiming that ''Ultimate'' is the last ''Smash'' game where Charles Martinet voices Mario, even though there's a possibility that his voice clips from ''Brawl'' would be repurposed for future ''Smash'' games. Plus, [[Zero Suit Samus (SSB4)|the ''Smash 4'' incarnation of Zero Suit Samus]] still reuses her ''Brawl'' voice clips despite getting a new voice actress in ''Other M'', and Glidewell's ''Brawl'' voice clips were also reused in ''Ultimate''. | |||
So, is it '''true''' that Puff's ''Ultimate'' incarnation will be the last time Lillis voices it? Because there's always a possibility for her voice clips to still be repurposed for future ''Smash'' games. --[[File:RandomGame57NewSignature.png|x19px]]<span style="color: green;">'''RandomGame57'''</span> [[User talk:RandomGame57|<span style="color: green;">''I don't really know''</span>]] [[File:RandomGame57NewSignature3.png|x19px]] 09:51, June 15, 2024 (CET) | |||
:"So, is it true that Puff's Ultimate incarnation will be the last time Lillis voices it?" We won't know until another game comes out since we aren't told about future development. Given her voice was reused for 5 games, it isn't unlikely it will be reused again. | |||
:I think what the editor who added it intended to mean is that Michele Knotz took over most roles after Rachael Lillis' retirement, but worded it really weirdly. Also Ultimate came out in 2018, making a 2019 retirement irrelevant (also Lillis claims [https://x.com/RachaelLillis/status/1698866499023462487 she hasn't retired]). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 06:32, June 15, 2024 (EDT) |
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