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The exceptions to the above is the characters added in Ultimate (except Daisy who was grandfathered in with Peach's articles). Looking at the linked discussion with Black Vulpine, it seems the crux of the issue is the reasoning used. If you say something like "It is [CHAR]'s only [DIRECTION] special, no need to mention [GAME]" or "Simplifying/saving bytes. Don't need to mention every game" would be more acceptable. Heck, "Consistency with how other special move articles word the intro" would be fine, just not "future proofing" which gives no indication on what the edit is about. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 14:11, March 26, 2024 (EDT) | The exceptions to the above is the characters added in Ultimate (except Daisy who was grandfathered in with Peach's articles). Looking at the linked discussion with Black Vulpine, it seems the crux of the issue is the reasoning used. If you say something like "It is [CHAR]'s only [DIRECTION] special, no need to mention [GAME]" or "Simplifying/saving bytes. Don't need to mention every game" would be more acceptable. Heck, "Consistency with how other special move articles word the intro" would be fine, just not "future proofing" which gives no indication on what the edit is about. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 14:11, March 26, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:Hey, saving bytes is a another good reason to remove these title mentions! Good catch. I should add that [[Hammer Flip]] does not follow the "one or two games" rule — that article should be corrected. Going back to Young Link's Triforce Slash and Pichu's Volt Tackle, should we apply the same logic to them? Their page openings are very clunky, and not mentioning ''Ultimate'' probably wouldn't create the false implication that these characters are in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'' — the special move tables at the bottoms of the pages already account for this. [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 18:59, March 26, 2024 (EDT) | :Hey, saving bytes is a another good reason to remove these title mentions! Good catch. I should add that [[Hammer Flip]] does not follow the "one or two games" rule — that article should be corrected. Going back to Young Link's Triforce Slash and Pichu's Volt Tackle, should we apply the same logic to them? Their page openings are very clunky, and not mentioning ''Ultimate'' probably wouldn't create the false implication that these characters are in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'' — the special move tables at the bottoms of the pages already account for this. [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 18:59, March 26, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::I wouldn't use what I listed as hard rules, I only looked at like 10 articles. I think Hammer Flip's intro is fine. Volt Tackle can probably be reduced to "Pikachu's and Pichu's Final Smash". For Triforce Slash, I'm thinking "...serves as the Final Smash of Link (prior to ''Ultimate''), Toon Link, and Young Link". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:05, March 26, 2024 (EDT) | |||