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:''For the tournament, see [[Tournament:Limit Break]].'' | :''For the tournament, see [[Tournament:Limit Break]].'' | ||
{{disambig2|Cloud's fighter ability|his down special move|Limit Charge / Finishing Touch}} | {{disambig2|Cloud's fighter ability|his down special move|Limit Charge / Finishing Touch}} | ||
[[File:LimitFullyCharged.jpg|thumb|right|Cloud's appearance while the Limit Gauge is full.]] | [[File:LimitFullyCharged.jpg|thumb|right|Cloud's appearance while the Limit Gauge is full.]] | ||
'''Limit''' is [[Cloud]] | '''Limit''' is [[Cloud]]'s [[fighter ability]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' and ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. It takes the form of a gauge that gradually fills over the course of a game. A full gauge temporarily changes Cloud's stats and some of his moveset while active. | ||
==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
Cloud posesses a bar known as the Limit Gauge. It appears above his head whenever performing [[Limit Charge]], and is constantly shown above his [[damage meter]] in ''Ultimate''. | [[File:Cloud SSBU Skill Preview Extra 1.png|left|thumb|Cloud with a fully charged Limit Break, as shown by the Move List.]] | ||
Cloud posesses a bar known as the Limit Gauge. It appears above his head whenever performing [[Limit Charge]], and is constantly shown above his [[damage meter]] in ''Ultimate''. Once the Limit Gauge is full, Cloud will undergo a "'''Limit Break'''" and emit a blue, flame-like aura from his body, accompanied by the sound effect from ''Final Fantasy VII''. If the gauge is fully charged via his down special Limit Charge, Cloud will also announce "{{ja|限界を超える|Genkai o koeru}}" (lit. "Exceed the limit") (localized in Cloud's reveal trailer as "Limits are meant to be broken"). While in Limit Break status, most of his [[:Category:Character attributes|attributes]] change, with various increases to all his mobility stats. It also allows him a one-time use of a more powerful version of his special moves, fully expending the Limit Gauge once performed. Limit Break lasts until Cloud expends the gauge or gets KO'd in ''Smash 4'', though this was changed to also automatically deplete if gone unused after 15 seconds in ''Ultimate'', much like the [[FS Meter]] does, forcing Cloud to behave more aggressively and charge wisely, as he can otherwise lose a valuable KO option or be forced to use his regular, much less effective [[Climhazzard]] during a [[recovery]] situation. | |||
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===Charging=== | ===Charging=== | ||
Cloud's Limit Gauge follows its own system of units for filling up, with a total of 100 units needed to reach Limit Break status. Dealing damage adds units equal to 0.4× of the amount dealt in ''Smash 4'', and 0.667× in ''Ultimate'', while taking damage adds units equal to the respective amount. As a result, filling up the Limit Gauge only by dealing damage requires a sum of at least 250% in ''Smash 4'', and 150% in ''Ultimate'', while filling it up only by taking damage requires a sum of at least 100% in both games. Dealing damage to [[shield]]s, with [[item]]s, [[equipment]] effects (such as [[Equipment#Equipment_bonus_effects|Speed Crasher and Shield Exploder]]), or to targets not affiliated to players (such as item or stage hurtboxes) do | Cloud's Limit Gauge follows its own system of units for filling up, with a total of 100 units needed to reach Limit Break status. The limit gauge can be filled through several methods. Dealing damage adds units equal to 0.4× of the amount dealt in ''Smash 4'', and 0.667× in ''Ultimate'', while taking damage adds units equal to the respective amount. As a result, filling up the Limit Gauge only by dealing damage requires a sum of at least 250% in ''Smash 4'', and 150% in ''Ultimate'', while filling it up only by taking damage requires a sum of at least 100% in both games. Dealing damage to [[shield]]s, with [[item]]s, [[equipment]] effects (such as [[Equipment#Equipment_bonus_effects|Speed Crasher and Shield Exploder]]), or to targets not affiliated to players (such as item or stage hurtboxes) do not count towards filling up the gauge. | ||
Limit Charge, on the other hand, adds a specific amount of units each [[frame]] it is active. In ''Smash 4'', this is equal to 0.25 from version [[1.1.5]] onward, and 0.28 prior to this version, so Limit Charge needs to be active for 400 and 358 frames (6.667 and 5.967 seconds), respectively, to reach Limit Break status without dealing or taking damage. In ''Ultimate'', Limit Charge adds 0.3 units per frame from version {{SSBU|7.0.0}} onward, or 0.25 prior to this version, so within the same conditions, it needs to be active for 334 and 400 frames (5.567 and 6.667 seconds), respectively. | Limit Charge, on the other hand, adds a specific amount of units each [[frame]] it is active. In ''Smash 4'', this is equal to 0.25 from version [[1.1.5]] onward, and 0.28 prior to this version, so Limit Charge needs to be active for 400 and 358 frames (6.667 and 5.967 seconds), respectively, to reach Limit Break status without dealing or taking damage. In ''Ultimate'', Limit Charge adds 0.3 units per frame from version {{SSBU|7.0.0}} onward, or 0.25 prior to this version, so within the same conditions, it needs to be active for 334 and 400 frames (5.567 and 6.667 seconds), respectively. | ||
In ''Ultimate'', when Cloud gets hit out of Limit Charge (or grabbed alongside any subsequent damage until release), the Limit Gauge loses the amount of units it would have gained instead, so with a gauge close to full, taking slightly below 100% damage is enough to fully empty it. Additionally, once Limit Break status is reached, the Limit Gauge is emptied (therefore removing the status as well) if a special move is not used within 15 seconds; unlike the [[Final Smash Meter]]'s similar timeout mechanic from version {{SSBU|4.0.0}} onward, no visual indication is offered to players of how close the Limit Break status is to being lost. | If Cloud is hit during Limit charge, most of the limit gained is taken away. In ''Ultimate'', when Cloud gets hit out of Limit Charge (or grabbed alongside any subsequent damage until release), the Limit Gauge loses the amount of units it would have gained instead, so with a gauge close to full, taking slightly below 100% damage is enough to fully empty it. Additionally, once Limit Break status is reached, the Limit Gauge is emptied (therefore removing the status as well) if a special move is not used within 15 seconds; unlike the [[Final Smash Meter]]'s similar timeout mechanic from version {{SSBU|4.0.0}} onward, no visual indication is offered to players of how close the Limit Break status is to being lost. | ||
===Move | ===Move changes=== | ||
Limit | While in Limit Break, Cloud has access to a powered-up version of one of his special moves. Cloud can choose any move, but Limit Break immediately ends after use, and the process of gaining limit starts again. | ||
[[Blade Beam]] | The Limit Break version of [[Blade Beam]] is larger, moves faster, hits multiple times, is colored blue instead of green and has [[transcendent priority]]. When used from the ground, its burst hits multiple times for a total of 19% damage on the first target and 13% on any targets immediately behind the first, then launches all affected with much more knockback than the regular version. This move now becomes an effective kill option to an opponent that is already offstage or is at a high percent. However, only being used once per Limit Break means the Cloud player has to be patient and careful when lining up a shot. | ||
The Limit Break version of [[Cross Slash]] involves Cloud unleashing the entire sequence at high speed, regardless of whether it hits anything or whether the player makes additional inputs. These slashes deal much more damage (27% total) and greater knockback than the base version of the move, with the final hit's hitbox also becoming slightly larger.<ref>[https://twitter.com/ruben_dal/status/859110965501206528 | The Limit Break version of [[Cross Slash]] is no longer a [[natural combo]] and instead involves Cloud unleashing the entire sequence at high speed, regardless of whether it hits anything or whether the player makes additional inputs. These slashes deal much more damage (27% total) and greater knockback than the base version of the move, with the final hit's hitbox also becoming slightly larger.<ref>[https://twitter.com/ruben_dal/status/859110965501206528]</ref> The camera will also zoom in on the opponent if the final hit connects while time slows down for a split second, similar to {{SSB4|Little Mac}}'s [[KO Uppercut]]. As Limit Cross Slash possesses very fast startup, a large hitbox, surprisingly low ending lag, and deals high [[shield damage]], it is often considered one of Cloud's most effective and all-purpose Limit Break special moves, though its ending lag still being relatively high makes it a risky move if used recklessly. | ||
The Limit Break version of [[Climhazzard]] | The Limit Break version of [[Climhazzard]] propels Cloud 1.5 times higher than the original height and has significant horizontal maneuverability while rising, while additionally being able to carry Cloud's horizontal momentum as he falls. It will also [[Edge sweet spot|allow grabbing the ledge while it is in progress]]. The second phase of Climhazzard can still be activated, but it does not have any enhancements. This version is also effective as an option to surprise opponents near the top [[Blast line]] to potentially kill them very early. However, Cloud players should be wary of using this variant of the move on stages where the main platform has an underside, as the horizontal component may get them stuck in a fatal position if misused. The initial stab deals 6% and the rising slash deals 7% with increased knockback. | ||
After getting the Limit status, Cloud gets a new move called [[Finishing Touch]] | After getting the Limit status, Cloud gets a new move called [[Finishing Touch]] for his down special. This move only deals 1% of damage, but has among the highest knockback of any move in the game and fairly strong windboxes, nearly guaranteeing a KO at medium percents on most stages. However, its high ending lag makes it easily punishable if the move does not connect properly, which is exacerbated by its deceptively small hitbox given its bombastic particle effects. | ||
Limit has no effect on [[Omnislash]], and vice versa. | Limit has no effect on [[Omnislash]], and vice versa. | ||
==Technical Data== | ==Technical Data== | ||
===Stat increases=== | ===Stat increases=== | ||
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| [[Fall speed]] || 1.68 || 1.1× || 1.848 | | [[Fall speed]] || 1.68 || 1.1× || 1.848 | ||
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==Origin== | ==Origin== | ||
[[File: | [[File:LimitGaugeOrigin.jpg|thumb|left|150px|The Limit Gauge in ''Final Fantasy VII''.]] | ||
The term [https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Limit_(Final_Fantasy_VII) Limit Break] first appeared in ''Final Fantasy VII'' but with the concept first appearing in ''Final Fantasy VI'' as Desperation Attacks. They are a key feature of fights in this game and many future entries. Limit is gained over time and large amounts are gained after taking damage. Once the Limit Gauge is filled, the character can use a Limit Break, which, in Cloud's case, is any of his Special Moves in ''Smash''. Unlike in the Smash series, the Limit Breaks in Final Fantasy | The term [https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Limit_(Final_Fantasy_VII) Limit Break] first appeared in ''Final Fantasy VII'' but with the concept first appearing in ''Final Fantasy VI'' as Desperation Attacks. They are a key feature of fights in this game and many future entries. | ||
Limit is gained over time and large amounts are gained after taking damage. Once the Limit Gauge is filled, the character can use a Limit Break, which, in Cloud's case, is any of his Special Moves in ''Smash''. Unlike in the ''Smash'' series, the Limit Breaks in ''Final Fantasy VII'' don't boost or change a character's attributes. It's also not lost after being KOed unlike in ''Smash''. | |||
[https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Braver_(Final_Fantasy_VII) Braver] and [https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Meteorain_(Final_Fantasy_VII) Meteorain] are Cloud's only Limit Breaks in ''Final Fantasy VII'' that aren't directly referenced in Cloud's Smash moveset. | |||
Limit Break status effect is a reference to the flame-colored light which emits from the ground before a Limit Break is being used. The flames being blue is a reference to the Advent | Limit Break status effect is a reference to the flame-colored light which emits from the ground before a Limit Break is being used. The flames being blue is a reference to the Advent Children version where a blue aura is used instead. | ||
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Limit Break EFFECT FFVIIAC.png|Cloud before he uses his Limit Breaks in ''Advent Children''. | |||
FF7 Blade beam.gif|Blade Beam in ''Final Fantasy VII''. | |||
FF7 Cross Slash.gif|Cross Slash in ''Final Fantasy VII''. | |||
FF7 Climhazzard.gif|Climhazzard in ''Final Fantasy VII''. | |||
FF7 Finishing touch.gif|Finishing Touch in ''Final Fantasy VII''. | |||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
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==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Cloud Neutral B 2 SSBU.gif|Limit Break version of Blade Beam. | Cloud Neutral B 2 SSBU.gif|Limit Break version of Blade Beam. | ||
Cloud Side B 2 SSBU.gif|Limit Break version of Cross Slash. | Cloud Side B 2 SSBU.gif|Limit Break version of Cross Slash. | ||
Cloud Up B 2 SSBU.gif|Limit Break version of Climhazzard. | Cloud Up B 2 SSBU.gif|Limit Break version of Climhazzard. | ||
Cloud Down B 2 SSBU.gif|Finishing Touch | Cloud Down B 2 SSBU.gif|Finishing Touch | ||
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==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
*In ''Smash 4'', there existed a minor glitch where hitting Cloud the moment his Limit Gauge filled up ''and'' he attempted to unleash a Limit Break Special Attack would deplete his Limit Gauge without any attack performed, thus removing the blue aura effect, but would still cause his next attack to be a Limit Break version. | *In ''Smash 4'', there existed a minor glitch where hitting Cloud the moment his Limit Gauge filled up ''and'' he attempted to unleash a Limit Break Special Attack would deplete his Limit Gauge without any attack performed, thus removing the blue aura effect, but would still cause his next attack to be a Limit Break version. | ||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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[[Category:Character-specific terminology]] | [[Category:Character-specific terminology]] |
Latest revision as of 14:40, January 28, 2024
- For the tournament, see Tournament:Limit Break.
Limit is Cloud's fighter ability in Super Smash Bros. 4 and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. It takes the form of a gauge that gradually fills over the course of a game. A full gauge temporarily changes Cloud's stats and some of his moveset while active.
Overview[edit]
Cloud posesses a bar known as the Limit Gauge. It appears above his head whenever performing Limit Charge, and is constantly shown above his damage meter in Ultimate. Once the Limit Gauge is full, Cloud will undergo a "Limit Break" and emit a blue, flame-like aura from his body, accompanied by the sound effect from Final Fantasy VII. If the gauge is fully charged via his down special Limit Charge, Cloud will also announce "限界を超える" (lit. "Exceed the limit") (localized in Cloud's reveal trailer as "Limits are meant to be broken"). While in Limit Break status, most of his attributes change, with various increases to all his mobility stats. It also allows him a one-time use of a more powerful version of his special moves, fully expending the Limit Gauge once performed. Limit Break lasts until Cloud expends the gauge or gets KO'd in Smash 4, though this was changed to also automatically deplete if gone unused after 15 seconds in Ultimate, much like the FS Meter does, forcing Cloud to behave more aggressively and charge wisely, as he can otherwise lose a valuable KO option or be forced to use his regular, much less effective Climhazzard during a recovery situation.
Charging[edit]
Cloud's Limit Gauge follows its own system of units for filling up, with a total of 100 units needed to reach Limit Break status. The limit gauge can be filled through several methods. Dealing damage adds units equal to 0.4× of the amount dealt in Smash 4, and 0.667× in Ultimate, while taking damage adds units equal to the respective amount. As a result, filling up the Limit Gauge only by dealing damage requires a sum of at least 250% in Smash 4, and 150% in Ultimate, while filling it up only by taking damage requires a sum of at least 100% in both games. Dealing damage to shields, with items, equipment effects (such as Speed Crasher and Shield Exploder), or to targets not affiliated to players (such as item or stage hurtboxes) do not count towards filling up the gauge.
Limit Charge, on the other hand, adds a specific amount of units each frame it is active. In Smash 4, this is equal to 0.25 from version 1.1.5 onward, and 0.28 prior to this version, so Limit Charge needs to be active for 400 and 358 frames (6.667 and 5.967 seconds), respectively, to reach Limit Break status without dealing or taking damage. In Ultimate, Limit Charge adds 0.3 units per frame from version 7.0.0 onward, or 0.25 prior to this version, so within the same conditions, it needs to be active for 334 and 400 frames (5.567 and 6.667 seconds), respectively.
If Cloud is hit during Limit charge, most of the limit gained is taken away. In Ultimate, when Cloud gets hit out of Limit Charge (or grabbed alongside any subsequent damage until release), the Limit Gauge loses the amount of units it would have gained instead, so with a gauge close to full, taking slightly below 100% damage is enough to fully empty it. Additionally, once Limit Break status is reached, the Limit Gauge is emptied (therefore removing the status as well) if a special move is not used within 15 seconds; unlike the Final Smash Meter's similar timeout mechanic from version 4.0.0 onward, no visual indication is offered to players of how close the Limit Break status is to being lost.
Move changes[edit]
While in Limit Break, Cloud has access to a powered-up version of one of his special moves. Cloud can choose any move, but Limit Break immediately ends after use, and the process of gaining limit starts again.
The Limit Break version of Blade Beam is larger, moves faster, hits multiple times, is colored blue instead of green and has transcendent priority. When used from the ground, its burst hits multiple times for a total of 19% damage on the first target and 13% on any targets immediately behind the first, then launches all affected with much more knockback than the regular version. This move now becomes an effective kill option to an opponent that is already offstage or is at a high percent. However, only being used once per Limit Break means the Cloud player has to be patient and careful when lining up a shot.
The Limit Break version of Cross Slash is no longer a natural combo and instead involves Cloud unleashing the entire sequence at high speed, regardless of whether it hits anything or whether the player makes additional inputs. These slashes deal much more damage (27% total) and greater knockback than the base version of the move, with the final hit's hitbox also becoming slightly larger.[1] The camera will also zoom in on the opponent if the final hit connects while time slows down for a split second, similar to Little Mac's KO Uppercut. As Limit Cross Slash possesses very fast startup, a large hitbox, surprisingly low ending lag, and deals high shield damage, it is often considered one of Cloud's most effective and all-purpose Limit Break special moves, though its ending lag still being relatively high makes it a risky move if used recklessly.
The Limit Break version of Climhazzard propels Cloud 1.5 times higher than the original height and has significant horizontal maneuverability while rising, while additionally being able to carry Cloud's horizontal momentum as he falls. It will also allow grabbing the ledge while it is in progress. The second phase of Climhazzard can still be activated, but it does not have any enhancements. This version is also effective as an option to surprise opponents near the top Blast line to potentially kill them very early. However, Cloud players should be wary of using this variant of the move on stages where the main platform has an underside, as the horizontal component may get them stuck in a fatal position if misused. The initial stab deals 6% and the rising slash deals 7% with increased knockback.
After getting the Limit status, Cloud gets a new move called Finishing Touch for his down special. This move only deals 1% of damage, but has among the highest knockback of any move in the game and fairly strong windboxes, nearly guaranteeing a KO at medium percents on most stages. However, its high ending lag makes it easily punishable if the move does not connect properly, which is exacerbated by its deceptively small hitbox given its bombastic particle effects.
Limit has no effect on Omnislash, and vice versa.
Technical Data[edit]
Stat increases[edit]
Stat | Base value | Multiplier | Resulting value |
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Walk acceleration | 0.1575 0.15 |
1.15× | 0.181125 0.1725 |
Walk speed | 1.155 1.1 |
1.15× | 1.32825 1.265 |
Dash speed | 2.145 1.8 |
1.1× | 2.3595 1.98 |
Run acceleration | 0.11 0.1 |
1.1× | 0.121 0.11 |
Run speed | 2.167 1.97 |
1.1× | 2.3837 2.167 |
Traction | 0.106 0.055 |
1.15× | 0.1219 0.06325 |
Air acceleration | 0.07 | 1.2× | 0.084 |
Air speed | 1.155 1.1 |
1.2× | 1.386 1.32 |
Air friction | 0.009 | 1.15× | 0.01035 |
Gravity | 0.098 | 1.1× | 0.1078 |
Fall speed | 1.68 | 1.1× | 1.848 |
Origin[edit]
The term Limit Break first appeared in Final Fantasy VII but with the concept first appearing in Final Fantasy VI as Desperation Attacks. They are a key feature of fights in this game and many future entries.
Limit is gained over time and large amounts are gained after taking damage. Once the Limit Gauge is filled, the character can use a Limit Break, which, in Cloud's case, is any of his Special Moves in Smash. Unlike in the Smash series, the Limit Breaks in Final Fantasy VII don't boost or change a character's attributes. It's also not lost after being KOed unlike in Smash.
Braver and Meteorain are Cloud's only Limit Breaks in Final Fantasy VII that aren't directly referenced in Cloud's Smash moveset.
Limit Break status effect is a reference to the flame-colored light which emits from the ground before a Limit Break is being used. The flames being blue is a reference to the Advent Children version where a blue aura is used instead.
Gallery[edit]
Trivia[edit]
- In Smash 4, there existed a minor glitch where hitting Cloud the moment his Limit Gauge filled up and he attempted to unleash a Limit Break Special Attack would deplete his Limit Gauge without any attack performed, thus removing the blue aura effect, but would still cause his next attack to be a Limit Break version.