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 :My point is moreso that the per-game split format for pages is standard enough that readers have expectations when it's used. Having certain pages break this expectation - in this case, "Master Hand" having a lot of per-game content while there's also a set of per-game pages - simply feels strange. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spark 23:20, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
 :I don't think I'm trying to say "we shouldn't split the hacked info from the regular boss info". But rather, I'm wondering how we can present this split in a way that is more congruent with how other pages work. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Indescribable 23:24, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
+::I've repeatedly and persistently told you how other pages of the exact same concept work - every Brawl boss motherpage, Giga Bowser, literally all of them, work exactly as I am proposing the Hand pages work. The Hands have consistently been the exception and not the rule. As a user of this wiki itself, I find it stranger that the Hand pages break formula and have such bear appearance sections. -[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 23:27, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
+:::I guess I never made this clear: Before this discussion began, I hadn't previously realised that those other boss pages were "mixed" on where the per-game info is, because when I was looking at per-game pages before I wasn't comparing with the root page. It's due to these two conflicting standards that I'm trying to think of if there's a better way for the idea as a whole. I think you also kind of hope there's a better way, or you would've just gone ahead with your plan instead of asking permission.
+:::It would be nice if someone else offered an opinion. My entire argument is based on "we have 200+ major pages creating an expectation that this breaks"; if that's not true for a majority of other people, then I'm wrong. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The SMASH-GINEER 09:54, August 5, 2023 (EDT)
+::::Whoops, never replied to this. I didn't go ahead with it directly because there had been a previous proposal that I personally believe was wrong. I think the previous way was perfectly fine and just needed more effective presentation, which my proposal outlined. I'm an open book - if I wanted a better way, I would have just said it, otherwise I'm not being productive...
+::::Looking through my previous points, I still maintain my positions. I have yet to see any compelling argument as to why the information has been merged when the characters are so fundamentally different when fought as bosses and played as through hacking. All the boss pages so far have shown differences that make them fundamentally different characters: Metal Mario has knockback-based armor, the Brawl bosses often have entire moves missing that breaks them, and so on. I think that the way things have been done so far is fine because of the abundant clarification given at the beginning of each character's page, and how the information is framed. The pages have very clear purposes and I don't see why the Hands need to be different, nor why the pages I've produced so far would need dialing back. -[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 19:50, September 26, 2023 (EDT)
+::::Still looking for additional opinions on this. My current opinions remain the same as before. - [[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 17:33, October 19, 2023 (EDT)