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===NeoGAF scrapped characters rumor=== | ===NeoGAF scrapped characters rumor=== | ||
Long after ''Melee''{{'}}s release in May of 2012, a NeoGAF user named cednym would post information about planned content for ''Melee'' that was [[Unused content (SSBM)|scrapped]], which he supposedly found in old [[Famitsu]] issues from 2002. Among the claims were several characters being planned for inclusion, which were: [[King Dedede]] being the character next inline for inclusion if Sakurai could not receive permission from [[Intelligent Systems]] to use {{SSBM|Marth}}, as well as being considered for inclusion in the place of the six [[clone]]s; that Sakurai considered a [[Pokémon Trainer]] character using the second generation starter Pokémon, but there wasn't enought time and resources for such a labor intensive character; [[Wario]] was briefly considered as the {{SSBM|Mario}} clone, with low speed and high attack power, but Sakurai felt that Wario deserved better; [[Wolf]] was initially slotted as {{SSBM|Fox}}'s clone, but Sakurai felt he would be perceived as "a grey-colored Fox", so he went with {{SSBM|Falco}} for his drastically different appearance; and Leif from ''Fire Emblem: Thracia 776'' was initially slotted as Marth's clone, but after Intelligent Systems gave Sakurai a preview of the upcoming ''Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade'', he thought Roy would be a better fit, with his fire properties making him stand out.<ref>https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next-super-smash-bros-discussion-thread-community-edition.448761/page-151#post-37915502</ref> While cednym provided no evidence for these claims being legitimate, these claims would proliferate within the ''Smash'' community as accepted information about ''Melee''{{'}}s development for several years after. In 2016, [[Source Gaming]] would attempt to find these old Famitsu translations or any other information to back up these claims, in their endeavor to chronicle all characters that were ever planned or seriously considered for inclusion in any ''Smash'' game for their "''The Definitive List of Unused Fighters in Smash''" article. However, they could not find anything that corroborated cednym's claims, in fact they would only find information that contradicted it, such as Sakurai confirming that Wario was the character next inline for inclusion, not King Dedede, as well as Sakurai confirming that he wouldn't have been able to add a single unique newcomer in the place of the six clones, contradicting the claim that Dedede could have been included in their place. Eventually, {{Sm|PushDustin}}, the admin of Source Gaming at the time, would contact cednym for verification of these claims, where he would admit that his post was entirely falsified.<ref>https://sourcegaming.info/2016/04/29/duflupdate/</ref> | Long after ''Melee''{{'}}s release in May of 2012, a NeoGAF user named cednym would post information about planned content for ''Melee'' that was [[Unused content (SSBM)|scrapped]], which he supposedly found in old [[Famitsu]] issues from 2002. Among the claims were several characters being planned for inclusion, which were: [[King Dedede]] being the character next inline for inclusion if [[Masahiro Sakurai]] could not receive permission from [[Intelligent Systems]] to use {{SSBM|Marth}}, as well as being considered for inclusion in the place of the six [[clone]]s; that Sakurai considered a [[Pokémon Trainer]] character using the second generation starter Pokémon, but there wasn't enought time and resources for such a labor intensive character; [[Wario]] was briefly considered as the {{SSBM|Mario}} clone, with low speed and high attack power, but Sakurai felt that Wario deserved better; [[Wolf]] was initially slotted as {{SSBM|Fox}}'s clone, but Sakurai felt he would be perceived as "a grey-colored Fox", so he went with {{SSBM|Falco}} for his drastically different appearance; and Leif from ''Fire Emblem: Thracia 776'' was initially slotted as Marth's clone, but after Intelligent Systems gave Sakurai a preview of the upcoming ''Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade'', he thought Roy would be a better fit, with his fire properties making him stand out.<ref>https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next-super-smash-bros-discussion-thread-community-edition.448761/page-151#post-37915502</ref> While cednym provided no evidence for these claims being legitimate, these claims would proliferate within the ''Smash'' community as accepted information about ''Melee''{{'}}s development for several years after. In 2016, [[Source Gaming]] would attempt to find these old Famitsu translations or any other information to back up these claims, in their endeavor to chronicle all characters that were ever planned or seriously considered for inclusion in any ''Smash'' game for their "''The Definitive List of Unused Fighters in Smash''" article. However, they could not find anything that corroborated cednym's claims, in fact they would only find information that contradicted it, such as Sakurai confirming that Wario was the character next inline for inclusion, not King Dedede, as well as Sakurai confirming that he wouldn't have been able to add a single unique newcomer in the place of the six clones, contradicting the claim that Dedede could have been included in their place. Eventually, {{Sm|PushDustin}}, the admin of Source Gaming at the time, would contact cednym for verification of these claims, where he would admit that his post was entirely falsified.<ref>https://sourcegaming.info/2016/04/29/duflupdate/</ref> | ||
==Rumors about ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''== | ==Rumors about ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''== | ||
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This image, while initially appearing to be legitimate, was actually compiled using a variety of [[File replacement|elaborate mods available for ''Brawl'']]. The stage seen in the image is a [http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32175 Fairy Isle modded stage], and the Mario in the image uses a [[texture hack]] to make his model more closely resemble his newer model in ''Smash 4''; Lucina herself is identical to a [[Project Smash Attacks]] mod seen in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6QwuDjQYs "The Lucina PSA"]. While this rumor did not become particularly widespread outside All is Brawl and was debunked fairly quickly, the hoax was the first to showcase the level of elaboration that ''Brawl'' mods bring to rumor producers; many later hoaxed images would similarly use mods to try making their faked leaks look more realistic, and purported leaks consisting of game screenshots or videos were often compared to already existing ''Brawl'' mods to check for their credibility. | This image, while initially appearing to be legitimate, was actually compiled using a variety of [[File replacement|elaborate mods available for ''Brawl'']]. The stage seen in the image is a [http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32175 Fairy Isle modded stage], and the Mario in the image uses a [[texture hack]] to make his model more closely resemble his newer model in ''Smash 4''; Lucina herself is identical to a [[Project Smash Attacks]] mod seen in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6QwuDjQYs "The Lucina PSA"]. While this rumor did not become particularly widespread outside All is Brawl and was debunked fairly quickly, the hoax was the first to showcase the level of elaboration that ''Brawl'' mods bring to rumor producers; many later hoaxed images would similarly use mods to try making their faked leaks look more realistic, and purported leaks consisting of game screenshots or videos were often compared to already existing ''Brawl'' mods to check for their credibility. | ||
While this rumor was false, {{SSB4|Lucina}} would later be confirmed to be a playable character on July 14th, 2014, alongside {{SSB4|Robin}}, over one year after the faked image was first posted. Expectedly, she did not at all resemble her appearance in the hoaxed image, | While this rumor was false, {{SSB4|Lucina}} would later be confirmed to be a playable character on July 14th, 2014, alongside {{SSB4|Robin}}, over one year after the faked image was first posted. Expectedly, she did not at all resemble her appearance in the hoaxed image, further establishing that the image was a hoax. | ||
===Palutena hoax=== | ===Palutena hoax=== | ||
[[File:Smash.4 - Palutena Rumor.png|150px|thumb|left|The purported images of Palutena.]] | [[File:Smash.4 - Palutena Rumor.png|150px|thumb|left|The purported images of Palutena.]] | ||
On 22 January 2014, two supposedly leaked images of [[Palutena]] in the 3DS version of ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' began to circulate on the | On 22 January 2014, two supposedly leaked images of [[Palutena]] in the 3DS version of ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' began to circulate on the Internet. The veracity of the images were immediately questioned, though some observers noted that the model and poses used by Palutena were not seen in any previous photo, and unlike the Lucina rumor, no hacks available for ''Brawl'' could replicate the image seen. Of particular note is that after the two images were released, a series of [[Media:Smash.4 - Viridi Stage Hazard.jpg|''Kid Icarus'']]-[[Media:Kid Icarus WiiU Stage.jpg|related]] [[Media:Smash.4 - Colliding Projectiles.jpg|images]] were released on Miiverse, leading some observers to speculate that Sakurai was aware of the Palutena images. | ||
[[File:PalutenaHoaxModels.png|99px|thumb|The models used in the hoaxed images.]] | [[File:PalutenaHoaxModels.png|99px|thumb|The models used in the hoaxed images.]] | ||
During the 2014 E3 event, Nintendo confirmed {{SSB4|Palutena}}'s inclusion in the game, and gameplay footage of her was also shown; despite this, several differences between the models used in the rumored photos and the actual game were observed, which led to debate over whether or not the images were legitimate in the first place. The images were finally revealed hoaxes in a thread on 4chan concerning the {{H2|Leak|ESRB leak}}; Mario and Palutena were created in an external program and these models were later digitally manipulated to resemble those from ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. | During the 2014 E3 event, Nintendo confirmed {{SSB4|Palutena}}'s inclusion in the game, and gameplay footage of her was also shown; despite this, several differences between the models used in the rumored photos and the actual game were observed, which led to debate over whether or not the images were legitimate in the first place. The images were finally revealed hoaxes in a thread on 4chan concerning the {{H2|Leak|ESRB leak}}; Mario and Palutena were created in an external program and these models were later digitally manipulated to resemble those from ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. | ||
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During the [[E3 2014]] demo and ensuing [[Smash-Fest]], people reported seeing many previously unrevealed [[Assist Trophies]], such as [[Shadow]], [[Tingle]], and [[Magnus]]. While these reports ended up being later confirmed by video evidence, one particular character implicated in these reports, [[Chunky Kong]] from ''Donkey Kong 64'', completely eluded any sort of video or photographic evidence. Despite the lack of evidence, people initially generally believed this report, as it came from multiple independent sources, that even fully described his effect as "slamming the ground to make bananas fall from the sky". However, [[Smash-Fest]] passed without any sort of video or photographic evidence of Chunky Kong, and with the lack of direct or indirect confirmation from Sakurai, it became doubted if these reports were entirely telling the truth. Chunky Kong later became a minor in-joke within the ''Smash'' community; with the lack of any sort of concrete evidence to prove the character's existence despite multiple claims to the contrary, the character was [[Media:ChunkyKongHoax1.png|jokingly]] [[Media:ChunkyKongHoax2.png|compared]] to {{s|wikipedia|Bigfoot}}, a famous North American {{s|wikipedia|cryptid}}. | During the [[E3 2014]] demo and ensuing [[Smash-Fest]], people reported seeing many previously unrevealed [[Assist Trophies]], such as [[Shadow]], [[Tingle]], and [[Magnus]]. While these reports ended up being later confirmed by video evidence, one particular character implicated in these reports, [[Chunky Kong]] from ''Donkey Kong 64'', completely eluded any sort of video or photographic evidence. Despite the lack of evidence, people initially generally believed this report, as it came from multiple independent sources, that even fully described his effect as "slamming the ground to make bananas fall from the sky". However, [[Smash-Fest]] passed without any sort of video or photographic evidence of Chunky Kong, and with the lack of direct or indirect confirmation from Sakurai, it became doubted if these reports were entirely telling the truth. Chunky Kong later became a minor in-joke within the ''Smash'' community; with the lack of any sort of concrete evidence to prove the character's existence despite multiple claims to the contrary, the character was [[Media:ChunkyKongHoax1.png|jokingly]] [[Media:ChunkyKongHoax2.png|compared]] to {{s|wikipedia|Bigfoot}}, a famous North American {{s|wikipedia|cryptid}}. | ||
After E3 2014 passed, with there still being no visual evidence of Chunky Kong despite the tens of hours of new gameplay footage being seen, the Chunky Kong Assist Trophy was generally regarded as a false report, though it was not known if it was intentionally falsified information, or inadvertently mistaken with another gameplay element. The rumor was ultimately proven completely false after both the Japanese release of {{for3ds}} and the | After E3 2014 passed, with there still being no visual evidence of Chunky Kong despite the tens of hours of new gameplay footage being seen, the Chunky Kong Assist Trophy was generally regarded as a false report, though it was not known if it was intentionally falsified information, or inadvertently mistaken with another gameplay element. The rumor was ultimately proven completely false after both the Japanese release of {{for3ds}} and the American release of {{forwiiu}}, where Chunky Kong was still absent. About a month after ''Smash 4'''s release on Wii U, the poster who first reported the Chunky Kong Assist Trophy [http://smashboards.com/threads/k-rools-kremling-kutthroats-request-the-king-in-your-smash-club-nintendo-forms-today.324259/page-516#post-18244015 confessed to fabricating the claim]; he initially intended to use the false piece of information to help himself catch fake leaks, as well as see how many people would repeat his seemingly outlandish claim. | ||
===Rayman DLC hoax=== | ===Rayman DLC hoax=== | ||
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Shortly after the reveal of ''Devil May Cry 5'' at E3 2018, a 4chan user posted [https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/424869809/#q424872463 a thread] claiming to have information related to the game and several other projects related to the franchise. Namely, that Dante, the protagonist of the series, would be a playable character in ''Ultimate.'' Throughout the year, several of the poster's claims would be verified, such as several story details, the existence of a training mode and the way that the character Nero purchases upgrades. Perhaps adding to the leak's credibility, a Netflix series based on the franchise was announced later that year, just as the poster had claimed. Users would go on to discover that [https://twitter.com/pg_kamiya/status/700571957658423297 a poll run by Hideki Kamiya], the original creator of the ''Devil May Cry'' and {{uv|Bayonetta}} franchises, asked fans which version of Dante they'd prefer to see collaborate with Bayonetta. Users pointed out that the date of the poll, early 2016, aligns with the period of time which Sakurai had stated early development on ''Ultimate'' had begun, and that the version of Dante that won the poll was the same version that the 4chan poster had claimed would be in the game. In early August, Matt Walker, the producer of Devil May Cry 5, [https://imgur.com/LVArqNC posted a suspicious tweet] that seemed to allude to something related to the Nintendo Direct that would air during that week. Later in the year, [https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/9i7inm/hideaki_itsuno_hideki_kamiya_together_at_tgs_2018/ Kamiya would meet up with Hideaki Itsuno, the current director of the Devil May Cry series] at TGS 2018, adding fuel to the rumors. Eventually, [https://i.redd.it/w70jqikzqsh11.png the rumor] had circulated enough that Walker [https://twitter.com/gypsyOtoko/status/1032867906839879680 took to Twitter to debunk Dante's presence in Smash]. | Shortly after the reveal of ''Devil May Cry 5'' at E3 2018, a 4chan user posted [https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/424869809/#q424872463 a thread] claiming to have information related to the game and several other projects related to the franchise. Namely, that Dante, the protagonist of the series, would be a playable character in ''Ultimate.'' Throughout the year, several of the poster's claims would be verified, such as several story details, the existence of a training mode and the way that the character Nero purchases upgrades. Perhaps adding to the leak's credibility, a Netflix series based on the franchise was announced later that year, just as the poster had claimed. Users would go on to discover that [https://twitter.com/pg_kamiya/status/700571957658423297 a poll run by Hideki Kamiya], the original creator of the ''Devil May Cry'' and {{uv|Bayonetta}} franchises, asked fans which version of Dante they'd prefer to see collaborate with Bayonetta. Users pointed out that the date of the poll, early 2016, aligns with the period of time which Sakurai had stated early development on ''Ultimate'' had begun, and that the version of Dante that won the poll was the same version that the 4chan poster had claimed would be in the game. In early August, Matt Walker, the producer of Devil May Cry 5, [https://imgur.com/LVArqNC posted a suspicious tweet] that seemed to allude to something related to the Nintendo Direct that would air during that week. Later in the year, [https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/9i7inm/hideaki_itsuno_hideki_kamiya_together_at_tgs_2018/ Kamiya would meet up with Hideaki Itsuno, the current director of the Devil May Cry series] at TGS 2018, adding fuel to the rumors. Eventually, [https://i.redd.it/w70jqikzqsh11.png the rumor] had circulated enough that Walker [https://twitter.com/gypsyOtoko/status/1032867906839879680 took to Twitter to debunk Dante's presence in Smash]. | ||
As both ''Ultimate'' and ''Devil May Cry 5'' released with Dante absent from the former and the latter being inconsistent with much of the original 4chan post, it's very likely that the original poster simply made several very lucky guesses that were bolstered by a series of coincidences. | As both ''Ultimate'' and ''Devil May Cry 5'' were released with Dante absent from the former and the latter being inconsistent with much of the original 4chan post, it's very likely that the original poster simply made several very lucky guesses that were bolstered by a series of coincidences. | ||
Additionally, [https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/08/devil-may-cry-director-says-if-smash-bros-fans-want-dante-ask-capcom-for-his-games-on Itsuno told the press that he'd prefer to see the ''Devil May Cry'' series debut on Nintendo consoles before considering Dante as a playable fighter in Smash.] On May 6th, 2019 a port of the original ''Devil May Cry'' was [https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/6/18534531/devil-may-cry-nintendo-switch-release-date announced] to be coming to Nintendo Switch, leading to further speculation following the comments made by Hideaki Itsuno. | Additionally, [https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/08/devil-may-cry-director-says-if-smash-bros-fans-want-dante-ask-capcom-for-his-games-on Itsuno told the press that he'd prefer to see the ''Devil May Cry'' series debut on Nintendo consoles before considering Dante as a playable fighter in Smash.] On May 6th, 2019 a port of the original ''Devil May Cry'' was [https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/6/18534531/devil-may-cry-nintendo-switch-release-date announced] to be coming to Nintendo Switch, leading to further speculation following the comments made by Hideaki Itsuno. | ||
On June 28, 2021, Dante was announced as a Mii Swordfighter costume, which released alongside Challenger Pack 10 the following day. | On June 28, 2021, Dante was announced as a Mii Swordfighter costume, which was released alongside Challenger Pack 10 the following day. | ||
==="The Grinch leak"=== | ==="The Grinch leak"=== | ||
[[File:GrinchLeak.png|150px|thumb|The images of the alleged finalized banner.]] | [[File:GrinchLeak.png|150px|thumb|The images of the alleged finalized banner.]] | ||
On October 24th, 2018, an image quickly circulated around the | On October 24th, 2018, an image quickly circulated around the Internet of the apparent final version of ''Ultimate''{{'}}s character banner; in it, [[Isaac]], [[Banjo]] & [[Kazooie]], [[Shadow the Hedgehog]], [[Ken Masters]], the Chorus Kids from {{uv|Rhythm Heaven}}, [[Geno]], and the [[Mach Rider]] can be seen. Images of the banner were apparently posted from an unknown artist's {{s|wikipedia|Snapchat}}, and quickly spread across the Internet, before getting deleted by the original poster. It seems that the post was ''intended'' to be a leak, as a caption in the image reads "nique ninteno{{sic}} mdrrr", which translates from French as "fuck <!--Do not asterisk this out. SmashWiki is not censored.--> ninteno{{sic}} lolll" ("mdr" in French is short for "mort de rire", or "dying of laughter", an equivalent to the English "laughing out loud" or "lol"). The validity of the pictures of the banner was difficult to disprove, as, much like the [[ESRB leak]], renders of the new characters could not be found elsewhere on the Internet. | ||
The leak has been dubbed the "'''Grinch leak'''", as a thought-to-be previously unseen render of the {{s|wikipedia|Grinch}} can be seen in the bottom right corner in one of the pictures, and another render of the Grinch with his dog, Max, can be seen at the top of another picture. The particular renders are promotional{{fact}} material for the then-upcoming 2018 film ''{{iw|wikipedia|The Grinch|film}}'', which supported the leak's validity, as few believed that a constructor of a fake banner would also put in the time and effort to associate it with an unrelated film. | The leak has been dubbed the "'''Grinch leak'''", as a thought-to-be previously unseen render of the {{s|wikipedia|Grinch}} can be seen in the bottom right corner in one of the pictures, and another render of the Grinch with his dog, Max, can be seen at the top of another picture. The particular renders are promotional{{fact}} material for the then-upcoming 2018 film ''{{iw|wikipedia|The Grinch|film}}'', which supported the leak's validity, as few believed that a constructor of a fake banner would also put in the time and effort to associate it with an unrelated film. | ||
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===Extra character slots datamine=== | ===Extra character slots datamine=== | ||
On March 12, 2019, it was discovered that there were 16 character slots found for Adventure Mode, one of which was currently being used for {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}}. While the next five are known to be part of the [[Downloadable content (SSBU)|Fighters Pass]] (including {{SSBU|Joker}}), the other ten are unknown. This led to speculation that there | On March 12, 2019, it was discovered that there were 16 character slots found for Adventure Mode, one of which was currently being used for {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}}. While the next five are known to be part of the [[Downloadable content (SSBU)|Fighters Pass]] (including {{SSBU|Joker}}), the other ten are unknown. This led to speculation that there would be future DLC characters beyond the Fighters Pass. While a [[Nintendo Direct]] on September 4th, 2019 would confirm that there would be more DLC characters, later in September 24th, 2019, Source Gaming released a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjqkmtSbVWc video] with help from decompiler jam1garner which they discovered that Joker took a placeholder slot just like Piranha Plant, but {{SSBU|Banjo and Kazooie}} and the {{SSBU|Hero}} did not take a slot, suggesting that two more fighters were added later in development of DLC. A total of 12 DLC fighters were released for the game, leaving 6 slots unaccounted for. The purpose of these extra slots remain unknown. | ||
===IAmShifty/Brew Elfen Ryu Hayabusa Rumor=== | ===IAmShifty/Brew Elfen Ryu Hayabusa Rumor=== | ||