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:If we were to add someone new, ckyulmiqnudaetr (or we'll just call him Quang because that tag is annoying to type) would be the better candidate at this moment even if he technically wasn't ranked on the half year SSBMRank, when he has added two more supermajors to his resume since the last time it was brought up, including a 33rd out of 764 players at {{trn|Get On My Level 2023}}, tying Phis-It's record for best supermajor placement for a solo Donkey Kong player in Melee's history. Even with Quang I would probably wait a bit to see how this DK resurgence develops more, but I wouldn't oppose people wanting to add him now. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:00, August 7, 2023 (EDT)
:If we were to add someone new, ckyulmiqnudaetr (or we'll just call him Quang because that tag is annoying to type) would be the better candidate at this moment even if he technically wasn't ranked on the half year SSBMRank, when he has added two more supermajors to his resume since the last time it was brought up, including a 33rd out of 764 players at {{trn|Get On My Level 2023}}, tying Phis-It's record for best supermajor placement for a solo Donkey Kong player in Melee's history. Even with Quang I would probably wait a bit to see how this DK resurgence develops more, but I wouldn't oppose people wanting to add him now. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:00, August 7, 2023 (EDT)
::Junebug has attended more than 2 regionals, but most of his results haven't been put on the wiki yet. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 12:10, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
::Junebug has attended more than 2 regionals, but most of his results haven't been put on the wiki yet. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 12:10, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
::Thanks for the correction. Seeing how they're all MDVA regionals over a short period though, so he does still only have the one major and not even any superregionals to supplement, my stance is unchanged. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:26, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
:::Thanks for the correction. Seeing how they're all MDVA regionals over a short period though, so he does still only have the one major and not even any superregionals to supplement, my stance is unchanged. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:26, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
::I get the worry about recency bias, but I think there's at times a tendency to go in the other direction and penalize people who have had more total achievement than others due to it happening in a shorter time frame. I also think that while the mid year rankings are clearly not as prestigious as the full year ranking, they are still noteworthy enough that being the first of your character on them is enough to be historically significant long term. That being said it's probably worth pausing this discussion until after Smash Con as that will address some of what's been discussed here (Especially since he'd become the highest placing DK at a supermajor if he places to his seed). [[User:Jaydyn|Jaydyn]] ([[User talk:Jaydyn|talk]]) 19:04, August 9, 2023 (EDT)
:::Six months is a very brief timeframe, especially for a game with over 20 years of history, and it's hard to say Junebug has "more total achievement" than other historical DKs when he has used DK at only a single major and a handful of MDVA regionals thus far, his case right now is largely resting on a half-year ranking that will be supplanted once the full end of year rankings come out. But yes, we can potentially revisit this depending on how Smash Con turns out (and I see Quang is entering it too, so a stronger performance there will certainly push him ahead of Junebug for getting listed, the Summer SSBMRank be damned). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:43, August 10, 2023 (EDT)