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I propose that this page be moved to "Main fighter." Fighter is a much better term and is the official terminology as well, and while it may not be the most widely used term in the fanbase, it better encompasses the ''Smash'' roster than "character," and our page on playable characters is named "[[Fighter]]." Yes, I am slightly biased on this topic because [[Banjo & Kazooie (SSBU)|my main]] is '''two''' characters, but when you really think about it you'll see where I'm coming from for the greater good of this Wiki. Please consider this move and post your arguments below, and have a great day. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="font-family: Lithograph"><span style="color: #0123A8">'''BANjO-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''KAZOOiE'''</span></span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 12:59, December 7, 2020 (EST) | I propose that this page be moved to "Main fighter." Fighter is a much better term and is the official terminology as well, and while it may not be the most widely used term in the fanbase, it better encompasses the ''Smash'' roster than "character," and our page on playable characters is named "[[Fighter]]." Yes, I am slightly biased on this topic because [[Banjo & Kazooie (SSBU)|my main]] is '''two''' characters, but when you really think about it you'll see where I'm coming from for the greater good of this Wiki. Please consider this move and post your arguments below, and have a great day. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="font-family: Lithograph"><span style="color: #0123A8">'''BANjO-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''KAZOOiE'''</span></span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 12:59, December 7, 2020 (EST) | ||
:'''Support''' In addition to what Sam said, I feel like using the term "main character" might be a little misleading to readers who aren't all too familiar with the meta game of ''Smash'', as the term "main character" is heavily synonymous with the term "main protagonist". [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 13:37, December 7, 2020 (EST) | |||
::This discussion extends to the renaming of [[Alternate character]], which would have to be moved as well for consistency. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="font-family: Lithograph"><span style="color: #0123A8">'''BANjO-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''KAZOOiE'''</span></span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 13:39, December 7, 2020 (EST) | |||
:::... can it not just be "'''Main'''"? Since that's what people actually say? (and, in turn, "Alternate") If we really need clarity, we can say "Main (term)", but considering "main" currently redirects here... [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:07, December 7, 2020 (EST) | |||
::::That would absolutely work, too. The other page would be renamed "Secondary." Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="font-family: Lithograph"><span style="color: #0123A8">'''BANjO-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''KAZOOiE'''</span></span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 15:09, December 7, 2020 (EST) | |||
::::'''Support''' this one to be consistent with what will likely happen with "Alternate character". --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 03:08, April 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::::'''Support''' moving this page to "Main" and "Alternative Character" to "Secondary". --[[User:Stuart98|Stuart98]] ([[User talk:Stuart98|talk]]) 21:29, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::: (copy of what i said on the alternate character page) '''Support''', though i personally think that Mains, Secondaries, and Pockets should all be consolidated into one page since they all share a large overlap in idea. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:PhantoFantasma|PhantoFantasma]] ([[User talk:PhantoFantasma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PhantoFantasma|contribs]]) 08:35, April 23, 2022 (EDT)</small> | |||
::::'''Support''' for the reasons given by others. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:06, April 25, 2022 (EDT) | |||
'''Oppose''': This proposal is old but still open so I'm chiming in. With the move reason, no one says "main fighter", so moving from "main character" to "main fighter" because "no one says it" is not a good reason, and people generally say "characters", not "fighters" anyway. I also do not see what's "better" about "fighter", everyone knows what you mean with "character" in this context and other fighting games follow the same terminology with just calling them characters. And what Nutty says right, if any different title is more appropriate, it's just "main" if we're going by the term people actually use. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:02, April 23, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:As stated in an above message and in the template on the Article, the proposal is for the article to be renamed to "Main," not "Main fighter" like it was when I started it. [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|Boss]]. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 17:49, April 23, 2022 (EDT) | |||
Yet another issue i see with this naming convention is that "main character" could also be easily mistaken as meaning 'protagonist' at a glance, this discussion hasn't exactly reached a conclusion since December 2020, i would say just make the move, i doubt that anybody would really lose sleep over it. [[File:PhantoFantasmaMiiStockIcon.png|20px]]'''[[User:PhantoFantasma|<span style="color:#f5bac4">Pha</span><span style="color:red">nto</span>]][[User_talk:PhantoFantasma|<span style="color:black">Fantasma</span>]]'''[[File:PFBrawlerIcon.png|20px]] 19:58, April 25, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:A page that is linked to, let's see... over 5000 times probably shouldn't be moved just because no one cares about it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:06, April 25, 2022 (EDT) |
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My main characters in 3DS are Villager and Meta Knight. What's yours?
- This is not appropriate usage of a talk page. PikaSamus (talk) 11:31, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
SW:TALKread it. Littlesquirtle, an average user who doesn't like his signature. (talk) 11:33, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
Stub[edit]
This page was tagged as a stub. Is there anything the page needs besides what it has now? Berrenta (talk) 12:00, 22 January 2015 (EST)
- I don't see anything else it needs. BlueStreak Speeds By 12:20, 22 January 2015 (EST)
- Probably a table of all the main characters of all the smasher in this wiki, divided in SSBM, Brawl, PM, and SSB4. It's going to be a massive update, but that's all that I could think of to improve this page. Anyone up for it? Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 06:57, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
- Smashers have main lists in their pages. If someone wants to know who a smasher's main(s) are, it would be simpler to visit the smasher's page instead of scrolling through this page. Berrenta (talk) 09:22, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
- ^^^^^ Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:28, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
- Smashers have main lists in their pages. If someone wants to know who a smasher's main(s) are, it would be simpler to visit the smasher's page instead of scrolling through this page. Berrenta (talk) 09:22, 26 March 2015 (EDT)
Move request[edit]
I propose that this page be moved to "Main fighter." Fighter is a much better term and is the official terminology as well, and while it may not be the most widely used term in the fanbase, it better encompasses the Smash roster than "character," and our page on playable characters is named "Fighter." Yes, I am slightly biased on this topic because my main is two characters, but when you really think about it you'll see where I'm coming from for the greater good of this Wiki. Please consider this move and post your arguments below, and have a great day. Sincerely, Samuel the BANjO-KAZOOiE Boss. 12:59, December 7, 2020 (EST)
- Support In addition to what Sam said, I feel like using the term "main character" might be a little misleading to readers who aren't all too familiar with the meta game of Smash, as the term "main character" is heavily synonymous with the term "main protagonist". SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 13:37, December 7, 2020 (EST)
- This discussion extends to the renaming of Alternate character, which would have to be moved as well for consistency. Sincerely, Samuel the BANjO-KAZOOiE Boss. 13:39, December 7, 2020 (EST)
- ... can it not just be "Main"? Since that's what people actually say? (and, in turn, "Alternate") If we really need clarity, we can say "Main (term)", but considering "main" currently redirects here... TheNuttyOne 15:07, December 7, 2020 (EST)
- That would absolutely work, too. The other page would be renamed "Secondary." Sincerely, Samuel the BANjO-KAZOOiE Boss. 15:09, December 7, 2020 (EST)
- Support this one to be consistent with what will likely happen with "Alternate character". --Plague von Karma 03:08, April 10, 2021 (EDT)
- Support moving this page to "Main" and "Alternative Character" to "Secondary". --Stuart98 (talk) 21:29, January 17, 2022 (EST)
- (copy of what i said on the alternate character page) Support, though i personally think that Mains, Secondaries, and Pockets should all be consolidated into one page since they all share a large overlap in idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhantoFantasma (talk • contribs) 08:35, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
- Support for the reasons given by others. --CanvasK (talk) 21:06, April 25, 2022 (EDT)
- ... can it not just be "Main"? Since that's what people actually say? (and, in turn, "Alternate") If we really need clarity, we can say "Main (term)", but considering "main" currently redirects here... TheNuttyOne 15:07, December 7, 2020 (EST)
- This discussion extends to the renaming of Alternate character, which would have to be moved as well for consistency. Sincerely, Samuel the BANjO-KAZOOiE Boss. 13:39, December 7, 2020 (EST)
Oppose: This proposal is old but still open so I'm chiming in. With the move reason, no one says "main fighter", so moving from "main character" to "main fighter" because "no one says it" is not a good reason, and people generally say "characters", not "fighters" anyway. I also do not see what's "better" about "fighter", everyone knows what you mean with "character" in this context and other fighting games follow the same terminology with just calling them characters. And what Nutty says right, if any different title is more appropriate, it's just "main" if we're going by the term people actually use. Omega Tyrant 12:02, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
- As stated in an above message and in the template on the Article, the proposal is for the article to be renamed to "Main," not "Main fighter" like it was when I started it. Samuel the Banjo-Kazooie Boss. 17:49, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
Yet another issue i see with this naming convention is that "main character" could also be easily mistaken as meaning 'protagonist' at a glance, this discussion hasn't exactly reached a conclusion since December 2020, i would say just make the move, i doubt that anybody would really lose sleep over it. PhantoFantasma 19:58, April 25, 2022 (EDT)