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 : This topic creates a Pandora's box (complicated situation). [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 15:42, October 5, 2021 (EDT)
 ::You just parroted what the jacketted  terrapin said without giving any reason. The only complication this may cause is whether Punch out is a Mario sub universe since Mario is the referee in Mike Tyson's Punch out. However, Mario was replaced when Punch out Wii was released, and Sephiroth is a recurring boss. [[Special:Contributions/172.58.69.165|172.58.69.165]] 17:13, October 5, 2021 (EDT)
+:Honestly, I think we should get rid of the notion of "sub-universe" entirely, the only thing it has really brought us so far is loads of bad trivia. I mean, it's fine to acknowledge that DK, Yoshi and Wario have common roots with Mario, but if the game considers them fully separate things then we should also do that, without any weird technicalities. Mario himself generally seldom appears in their games, anyway. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 17:28, October 5, 2021 (EDT)
+:To put it simply: ''Kingdom Hearts'' is not, nor was it ever, considered a true ''Final Fantasy'' "spin-off", since it was marketed as a "Disney crossover" first and foremost, and the ''Final Fantasy'' content that is available is relatively minor in comparison (''KHIII''' even outright excluded the ''Final Fantasy'' cast altogether before the DLC dropped); not to mention there's also the issue that ''Kingdom Hearts'' is fully owned by Disney despite Square Enix being the developer and publisher of the series.
+:Overall, there's just far too many complications for this idea to be worth salvaging. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 17:49, October 5, 2021 (EDT)
+I agree with Rdrfc that the whole "sub-universe" thing should be ditched, I don't see any value in keeping it, and all it seems to be good for is causing dumb arguments over what constitutes a "sub-universe" and encouraging bad trivia. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 03:40, October 6, 2021 (EDT)
+:I see it's been ditched already, and I agree. The only one that actually fits the bill imo is Yoshi since, as a prequel series, it has the exact same characters, but that's still directly under Mario without the sub-universe distinction, which is the perfect compromise. DK and Wario don't even appear in mainline Mario platformers anymore, so even they're not really sub-universes. [[Special:Contributions/157.242.208.151|157.242.208.151]] 04:05, October 6, 2021 (EDT)
+== Why is Luma listed as Rosalina's child? ==
+Lore-wise, Rosalina is not Luma's child. So why is it listed as such on this page? The only reason I could think of is that the person assumed that Lumas have been "adopted" by Rosalina, which is half-true I guess? But it still shouldn't be listed as so. [[User:KTrain5369|KTrain5369]] ([[User talk:KTrain5369|talk]]) 20:31, May 21, 2023 (EDT)