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It seems like people went through with this proposal but never formally declared it here?
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While browsing/editing today, I noticed that doubles teams such as [[El Chocolate Diablo]] and [[PewFat]] weren't in the Team namespace. After another user moved El Chocolate Diablo, I did so for PewFat and others. However, I soon noticed that I was moving these pages over a redirect. Upon further investigation, I realized that XL initially moved doubles teams into the Team namespace when it was created in 2018, but then in 2019 a couple users moved them out of Team and back into the mainspace. | While browsing/editing today, I noticed that doubles teams such as [[El Chocolate Diablo]] and [[PewFat]] weren't in the Team namespace. After another user moved El Chocolate Diablo, I did so for PewFat and others. However, I soon noticed that I was moving these pages over a redirect. Upon further investigation, I realized that XL initially moved doubles teams into the Team namespace when it was created in 2018, but then in 2019 a couple users moved them out of Team and back into the mainspace. | ||
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:I agree with you, I think the team namespace isn't clear enough, a doubles team would not be the same as a Esports team, it can cause confusion if these are kept in the same namespace. There should be a way to distinguish these teams as well as crews. Sorry if me and another user executed those actions on our own without any consensus, I won't make any excuse to that. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 23:27, June 6, 2021 (EDT) | :I agree with you, I think the team namespace isn't clear enough, a doubles team would not be the same as a Esports team, it can cause confusion if these are kept in the same namespace. There should be a way to distinguish these teams as well as crews. Sorry if me and another user executed those actions on our own without any consensus, I won't make any excuse to that. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 23:27, June 6, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::Not blaming you or anyone at all - I agree with you and C&C that the "Team" namespace lends itself to being too broad. When the original discussion was had in late 2017 (a time during which I was inactive), there was a divide between the namespace being called "Crew" or "Team"; I believe greater specificity with "Crew" and also "Sponsor" would've been the optimal way to go. | |||
::If we are not to make any new namespaces, though, I see "Team" as the best fit for doubles teams. <span style="font-family: Futura; font-size: 9pt">'''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="#041e42">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="#ffc72c">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="#c0c0c0">01</font>]]'''</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|20px]]Break the Targets! 00:22, June 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I get where you guys are coming from but the categories are already there to distinguish everything from each other (crew, esports orgs, and doubles teams), although I feel like [[:Category:Teams]] could use a rename. To the average viewer I also feel like it's fairly simple to distinguish double teams apart from crews or sponsors considering that's the purpose of the first paragraph/sentence. I personally don't see any issue with the way we currently handle the Team namespace considering it encapsulates everything that would be considered a team, but I guess I wouldn't really be opposed to having it split. It does seem like the doubles teams namespace would be a bit underused though. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 02:44, June 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::After considering what you and Toomai said, I honestly prefer having teams/crews under the Team namespace and sponsors under a Sponsor namespace. While the categories do separate them, most people don't look at the categories when looking at an article, and I feel like it's better to make it obvious whether a organization is which rather than tell people to look at the categories. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 23:30, June 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::::Like I said earlier though, most people would be able to establish whether it's an esports org or a crew from the first sentence alone. "x is a professional esports organization" or "x is a crew" are both very straightforward. I feel like having just one Team namespace gives us greater freedom when it comes to adding articles to it, especially when you consider that some organizations serve more of a behind-the-scenes role than being a real sponsor. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 04:15, June 8, 2021 (EDT) | |||
My personal view is that a doubles pair is essentially a crew of two people, and not much more distinction is necessary. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Celeritous 07:43, June 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||