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{{Proposal}} | {{Proposal|failed|2=No traction in over a year, and this got discussed on Discord before, with nothing compelling being presented to treat character usage in non-Melee games differently. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:17, April 18, 2023 (EDT)}} | ||
Recently a discussion popped up on Discord regarding the addition/removal of sandbag characters for the results tables. In the past we've been ignoring sandbag characters when top players use them during pools; top players could pull out and win with any character when against a low-level player, making it cheap to say that the character contributed to a player's placement. As a result, characters such as Hungrybox's Ganondorf at {{Trn|CEO 2014}} or Mew2King's Pichu were not added to the results table. | Recently a discussion popped up on Discord regarding the addition/removal of sandbag characters for the results tables. In the past we've been ignoring sandbag characters when top players use them during pools; top players could pull out and win with any character when against a low-level player, making it cheap to say that the character contributed to a player's placement. As a result, characters such as Hungrybox's Ganondorf at {{Trn|CEO 2014}} or Mew2King's Pichu were not added to the results table. | ||
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==Support== | ==Support== | ||
Personally I think they should be listed in melee as well. If it contributed to a set win, then it contributed to a set win. If mew2king wanted to get the entire roster on a results table, then that is his prerogative. [[User:Gagesango|Gagesango]] ([[User talk:Gagesango|talk]]) 05:06, September 27, 2021 (EDT) | Personally I think they should be listed in melee as well. If it contributed to a set win, then it contributed to a set win. If mew2king wanted to get the entire roster on a results table, then that is his prerogative. [[User:Gagesango|Gagesango]] ([[User talk:Gagesango|talk]]) 05:06, September 27, 2021 (EDT) | ||
'''Support''', for ''Ultimate'' at the very least, compare to ''Melee'', where players have way bigger skill difference, they can easily get a pool win with one of the characters on the roster. But ''Ultimate'' is a very different game, not only is the roster way more deep and extensive, allowing players to do counterpick wars a lot more often since way more matchups are possible. There are also a bunch of rising stars to the point that a pool opponent can be challenging, many upsets can be caused in a major. Many tournaments can have depths and many regions have talents. So I can see that being more lenient with ''Ultimate'' is a good idea. It is however tough to say for something like ''Smash 4'', the game was not only dead for a while now basically, it was also generally less balanced than ''Ultimate''.[[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 12:25, June 17, 2022 (EDT) | |||
==Oppose== | ==Oppose== | ||