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== What gives == | == What gives == | ||
Why the reversion? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[ | Why the reversion? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 01:21, March 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Why did you remove the box? And aren't you inactive? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:28, March 19, 2010 (UTC) | :Why did you remove the box? And aren't you inactive? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:28, March 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Because we don't need boxes on our talk pages. As to the second question: How does being inactive have anything to do with anything? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[ | ::Because we don't need boxes on our talk pages. As to the second question: How does being inactive have anything to do with anything? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 22:51, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::[http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/SmashWiki:Administrators#Inactive You aren't inactive]? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 22:56, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | :::[http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/SmashWiki:Administrators#Inactive You aren't inactive]? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 22:56, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::You must have missed the note in this page history… Oh, and the fact that you didn't answer my question. That's cute. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[ | ::::You must have missed the note in this page history… Oh, and the fact that you didn't answer my question. That's cute. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 23:03, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::If you were truly inactive, then this would not be much of a bother. My surprise was positive, as in "Hey, you're back! :D", by the way, but judging by your recent edits, you're only active as a pest on talk pages, opposing the general consensus. What up widdat? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:05, April 4, 2010 (UTC) | :::::If you were truly inactive, then this would not be much of a bother. My surprise was positive, as in "Hey, you're back! :D", by the way, but judging by your recent edits, you're only active as a pest on talk pages, opposing the general consensus. What up widdat? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:05, April 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Because as AirCon just said, lack of use. And I think we can replace the instances where this is used with text. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:33, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | Because as AirCon just said, lack of use. And I think we can replace the instances where this is used with text. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:33, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:If it doesn't need to be changed into raw text, don't bother. You're fighting for very little, here. If I were you, I'd pack my bags and move on, this is pointless. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:35, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | :If it doesn't need to be changed into raw text, don't bother. You're fighting for very little, here. If I were you, I'd pack my bags and move on, this is pointless. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:35, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Well, I want to actually get something done instead of having nothing happen like in [[Category talk:Disambiguation]], [[Talk:Newcomer]], and | :Well, I want to actually get something done instead of having nothing happen like in [[Category talk:Disambiguation]], [[Talk:Newcomer]], and Template talk:IRC. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:38, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::With the former and latter, action should take place there, as having consistency with disambiguations is helpful, and the IRC template should die. Newcomer, I couldn't care less about. This template, there is no reason to delete it, "Actually getting something done" is not a reason to delete something. | ::With the former and latter, action should take place there, as having consistency with disambiguations is helpful, and the IRC template should die. Newcomer, I couldn't care less about. This template, there is no reason to delete it, "Actually getting something done" is not a reason to delete something. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ToastUltimatum|ToastUltimatum]] ([[User talk:ToastUltimatum|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum|contribs]]) 14:41, October 27, 2012</small> | ||
:::Also to get rid of unnecessary stuff. If I made a template to display a recipe for chocolate chip muffins, it would be deleted in an instant. Even though this is slightly more relevant to editing, it's just as unnecessary and therefore should be deleted. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:44, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | :::Also to get rid of unnecessary stuff. If I made a template to display a recipe for chocolate chip muffins, it would be deleted in an instant. Even though this is slightly more relevant to editing, it's just as unnecessary and therefore should be deleted. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:44, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::::Well, your IRC template problem will be fixed soon, I've just tagged it with a speedy delete. I was planning to get around to talking about Newcomer. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:46, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ::::Well, your IRC template problem will be fixed soon, I've just tagged it with a speedy delete. I was planning to get around to talking about Newcomer. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:46, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
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Unfortunately I known that [[User talk:SmashPeter|SmashPeter's talk page]] also had this template which we warned him about his vandalism a year ago, so I don't think this template is completely unused or useless. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Kirby]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 14:59, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | Unfortunately I known that [[User talk:SmashPeter|SmashPeter's talk page]] also had this template which we warned him about his vandalism a year ago, so I don't think this template is completely unused or useless. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Kirby]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 14:59, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Again, we can just replace it with text. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 15:01, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | :Again, we can just replace it with text. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 15:01, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::Why. Not even bothering with a question mark. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:07, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
:::To solve the problem YOU stated as "This template has been used." I think that might have something to do with it...<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 15:45, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
I would like to insert a general comment here about templates like these that are basically canned responses: their usefulness is proportional to the size of the wiki and number of cases where it is applicable. I agree that in our current state we don't need a canned response for generic vandalism, as a personalized warning is far more useful and we don't currently have enough cases that people get snowed under trying to warn the miscreants. Will we need to remake this when we get bigger and have more people to deal with? Unanswerable. | |||
I will also note that the template is supposed to be sustituted, and so replacing it with text is what's supposed to happen. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Researcher 16:31, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
'''Keep''' I was one of the most frequent users of this template back in the day. While SW:QDV says that we should assume good faith and report vandals to admins, there are cases when users may be doing editing tests and be unaware that their edits are saved. Another thing to note is that without some kind of warning that shows up on a vandal's talk page, they may not be aware of their blocks (especially if they are an infrequent vandal and their block is only a day or so). The reason it is rarely used is because, as Toomai said, we don't have much vandalism right now. But unless the case is a long time vandal like Poopy or SmashPeter, it's important to make the vandal aware of their actions and the consequences of such behavior. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 18:55, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
To clarify one more thing: SW:QDV says nothing about warnings. It mainly refers to behavior that may make the situation work. [[User_talk:Semicolon#If_you_are_an_admin|This]], for example, is a situation where the policy would apply. Simply warning a vandal of the consequences of their actions in a calm and non-trolling manner is not. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 19:00, 27 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
Maybe we can expand the parameters of the template so it doesn't include only vandals. Other users might be involved in misdemeanors such as edit wars, flaming, etc. Or is that what the violation template is supposed to be? [[File:GreenMarioBrawlHead.png|15px]][[User:Green Mario|<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#32CD32"> | |||
Green</span>]] [[User talk:Green Mario|<span style="font-family:Papyrus;color:#FFA500">Mario</span>]] 00:29, 28 October 2012 (EDT) | |||