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maybe i kept adding it because people kept deleting it without discussing why, DUH. secondly, rawk, you can just shut up right now, because you didn't even post a valid reason like kirbyking and smoreking did. thirdly, thats fine if you guys don't want it in there, but i still don't see the harm. [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 21:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
maybe i kept adding it because people kept deleting it without discussing why, DUH. secondly, rawk, you can just shut up right now, because you didn't even post a valid reason like kirbyking and smoreking did. thirdly, thats fine if you guys don't want it in there, but i still don't see the harm. [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 21:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
: On a page as important as the Main Page, the onus is on you to discuss changes beforehand. [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] ([[User talk:MaskedMarth|talk]]) 15:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


== Match-Ups ==
== Match-Ups ==
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I based my tier list off that second one. [[User:JtM|JtM =^&#93;]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 21:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I based my tier list off that second one. [[User:JtM|JtM =^&#93;]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 21:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
: It wouldn't hurt to give those matchup charts the same treatment as phanna's [[Character matchup (SSBM)|All Characters Match-Up Chart]]. [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] ([[User talk:MaskedMarth|talk]]) 05:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::I would concur with you except for the fact that neither of those matchup charts are as well designed as Phanna's.  All they were based on is comments that people put in the forums.  So, if someone simply wrote a lot about how s/he had trouble beating Ganon as Meta Knight, those charts would just take that into account without checking empirical data.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 14:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


== Adding new sections to the Main Page ==
== Adding new sections to the Main Page ==
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:::::::You can't go too hard on him.  he did get permission.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silve">Achievemts</span>]]''' 01:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You can't go too hard on him.  he did get permission.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silve">Achievemts</span>]]''' 01:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And you know what! While we're at it, BAN ME TOO! You may ban me from this site, but you can't never, ever, take my love for Super Smash Bros away from me! [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 01:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And you know what! While we're at it, BAN ME TOO! You may ban me from this site, but you can't never, ever, take my love for Super Smash Bros away from me! [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 01:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I have/have had no plans on banning you.  All of you edits have been bona fide attempts at helping out, even if I disagree with you.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 02:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


== Fan Site ==
== Fan Site ==
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That thing about Fyre was settled on CH's talk page. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 01:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
That thing about Fyre was settled on CH's talk page. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 01:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
O_o big discussion. On Smashboards, people take facts like character attribute from here and put them on a guide. If this was a fan wiki, then they wouldnt look here anyway. People look up advanced techniques here, its an encyclopedia. [[User:JtM|JtM =^&#93;]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 02:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
== Apology ==
I would like to apologize to Kirbyking, Clarinet, MarioGalaxy, Xtreme, and all the admins on this site about the way I acted. I should have realized that all wikis are different. Wheather they are a fanbase site or just an encylopedia, I shouldn't realized the differences between them. I wish I could take back everything I said and regret creating the Smash Arena without any admins permission and posting it on the main page. I should be responsible for my actions on this site. I really am sorry for the dillema I've caused. I hope you accept my apology and hopefully we will work things out. I am very sorry to everyone on this site. And I do thank Cheezperson for supporting me as well. So I am sorry, I shouldn't ask you guys if I could create the Smash Arena page, and hopefully you we can make a understanding. So yea, I am so sorry. Please reply back to me, I appreciate it! [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 05:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
: Although I appreciate it, an apology isn't really necessary. As I said, I didn't remove the Smash Arena because I'm an admin, but because there wasn't any sort of discussion to add it. As a rule, sudden non-trivial changes to an important page can be reverted, which only means that there should be a discussion on the talk page before reinstating it (or not). Any user could have done the same thing I did, and any user could decide to make the case for including it on the talk page. Though I predict it unlikely, if there were consensus to add it, it could be added. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 16:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
==Other Brawler Stats==
I feel this should go somewhere else, but I don't know where so...
I've checked on several Wikis, and although some of those things are non-canon, we should be adding character info such as height. If there is something else we should add please pitch in. At least take this into consideration. (sidenote: Put Olimar's real size on his page and his Brawl size on his Brawl page.) [[User:Enzeru|Enzeru]] ([[User talk:Enzeru|talk]]) 14:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
== Did You Know? template ==
I think that it should be moved back to where it was. We want visitors to easily see it, which isn't as easy if it is on the side. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 20:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, switch DYK? with Helping out.[[User:Smorekingxg456|<font face="Impact" color="5F9EA0"><span style="color:Silver">Smore</span></font>]] [[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Green">Talk</span>]] 20:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
''"Never fear, MILES is here!"'' {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 20:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Ha, good ol' Miles.[[User:Smorekingxg456|<font face="Impact" color="5F9EA0"><span style="color:Silver">Smore</span></font>]] [[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Green">Talk</span>]] 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Who now realizes rearranging the Main Page is well outside of his wiki knowledge.  Someone else? anyone? {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 21:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I can maybe try to try.[[User:Smorekingxg456|<font face="Impact" color="5F9EA0"><span style="color:Silver">Smore</span></font>]] [[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Green">Talk</span>]] 21:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I took care of it.  Good idea about doing it.  Thanks.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 21:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I like how it looks now, except that the Did You Know template is a bit short. Maybe we should make it have 10 facts or something. That would solve the extra space problem. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 12:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I just tried 10 facts to see how that works, and it still leaves some space. We would need to make it have 15-20 facts, but I don't think that a large wall of text would look that great. Hmm... <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 12:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::I've moved it back. Please view the page as an anon: With the dyk on the left and the help on the right, the page stretches unbearably at normal resolutions and only gets worse as your screen gets smaller. The dyk template is not the be-all end all of the main page. As for Pikamander, it is '''supposed''' to be short. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 13:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I didn't think to look at it as a anon.  Thanks for fixing it.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 17:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::haha, your screwed. im getting my way one way or another. either you can move back the DYK, or, i could put up the featured video again (maybe with something else) and you guys wont have a reason to say no. [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 22:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::What the hell are you talking about?  We're not putting the featured video back up.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 23:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Give me a good reason. You can't say because it blocks the DYK anymore. [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 23:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::One, no encyclopedic value.  Two, slows load time.  Three, it's not a compelling case of fair use, so it very well may be illegal for some of the videos.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 23:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::first of all, it does not "slow load time". people can spare a fraction of a second. second of all, ken being on survivor has no encyclopedic value. [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 23:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, why not some player-made videos (I'd say fan-made, but let's not have that [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa]] incident again)? I mean, videos for glitches like [[SLAPAYO]] (we have three in the article), or for matches (single or team)? '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 23:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:How about no? I'm rarely the dictator type, but I'm dictating here. I'll lock the main page if need be. Simple as that. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 03:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::and people wonder why a say the administration going on here sucks... wow. just wow. [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 04:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I can only respond with "your interests are not in the best interest of SmashWiki's front page." Especially when you threaten to enact your wishes. Anything else? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 04:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::: KP317, you mean well but your discussion is verging on personal attack. I suggest you cool your jets. We'll talk about featured videos when we've calmed down. [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] ([[User talk:MaskedMarth|talk]]) 05:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::::for your information, that is exactly what i intend. i intend for the best, and i intend to come off as a rude obnoxious jerk (just barely within the rules) [[User:Kperfekt722|KP317]] ([[User talk:Kperfekt722|talk]]) 17:19, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::You may not violate the technicality of any rule, but the spirit of the rule is by far more important. Trolling counts as wiki diruption (a potentially bannable offense), as well as violating the spirit of [[SW:NPA|no personal attacks]]. Heeding Marth's (accurate) advice would be a smart idea, and Sky is certainly acting within his bounds.  --[[User:Shadowcrest|<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest</font>]] 18:50, 14 October 2008 (UTC)