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 ==In [[competitive play]]==
+===Tier placement and history===
+Upon the game's release, Greninja was played extensively in Japanese tournaments. However, it would soon infamously receive nerfs in update [[1.0.4]], hurting its KO options, hurtbox, and also fixing a glitch that it had with Shadow Sneak. This, along with better characters up and coming, lowered Greninja's representation in tournaments, and it was beginning to be looked down upon due to its slow aerials, lackluster grab game, and lack of reliable KO options, and was passed over for characters perceived to be more viable. This and its high learning curve made it very distasteful to pick up. Despite this, Greninja still saw solid placings all around at tournaments, which caused its perception to not be as tough as it was after its nerfs. Greninja would at first rank at 25th on the first [[tier list]] released by the ''4BR''.
+However, updates [[1.1.3]] and [[1.1.5]] gave Greninja noteworthy buffs, with an increase to its KO power and combo options, as well as reduced landing lag on some of its aerial moves. With these buffs, Greninja began to see higher representation and some players began to realize its potential once again, largely due to the work of {{Sm|DarkAura}}, {{Sm|Eddy}}, {{Sm|Oisiitofu}}, {{Sm|Some}}, {{Sm|Venia}}, and most notably {{Sm|iStudying}}, who achieved 2nd place at [[B.E.A.S.T 6]]. These results allowed it to rise to 21st on the second tier list.
+Despite its slightly rare results, Greninja was ranked 22nd on the third tier list, and is seen to be a viable option in tournaments, while also being backed by excellent tournament representation. After Some placed 9th at [[Frostbite 2017]], however, Greninja's results dropped once again. Greninja was once again thought to not be as great as initially, esecially after [[2GGC: Greninja Saga]] saw it placing rather inconsistently (this is largely attributed to the Greninja players eliminating themselves during the top 48 part of the bracket). Despite an explosion of Greninja's results appearing recently in tournaments, voting for its tier placement was already done, resulting on Greninja being ranked at 26th on the fourth and final tier list, its lowest placement so far. Regardless, it is generally agreed that this burst of good tournament results could cause Greninja's placement on a future tier list to rise, although this remains to be seen.
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 ===Most historically significant players===
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 *{{Sm|Some|Japan}} - One of the best Greninja players in Japan. Placed 3rd at {{Trn|Sumabato 4U FINAL}}, 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 26}}, 9th at {{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}, 13th at {{Trn|Umebura 28}}, and 17th at {{Trn|2GGC: Greninja Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Captain Zack}}, {{Sm|Kameme}}, and {{Sm|Fatality}}.
 *{{Sm|Stroder|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: West Side Saga}}, 17th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: SCR Saga}}, and 33rd at both {{Trn|EVO 2016}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Nairo}}, {{Sm|Elegant}}, and {{Sm|falln}}. Formerly ranked in Area 51 on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]].
-===Tier placement and history===
-Upon the game's release, Greninja was played extensively in Japanese tournaments. However, it would soon infamously receive nerfs in update [[1.0.4]], hurting its KO options, hurtbox, and also fixing a glitch that it had with Shadow Sneak. This, along with better characters up and coming, lowered Greninja's representation in tournaments, and it was beginning to be looked down upon due to its slow aerials, lackluster grab game, and lack of reliable KO options, and was passed over for characters perceived to be more viable. This and its high learning curve made it very distasteful to pick up. Despite this, Greninja still saw solid placings all around at tournaments, which caused its perception to not be as tough as it was after its nerfs. Greninja would at first rank at 25th on the first [[tier list]] released by the ''4BR''.
-However, updates [[1.1.3]] and [[1.1.5]] gave Greninja noteworthy buffs, with an increase to its KO power and combo options, as well as reduced landing lag on some of its aerial moves. With these buffs, Greninja began to see higher representation and some players began to realize its potential once again, largely due to the work of {{Sm|DarkAura}}, {{Sm|Eddy}}, {{Sm|Oisiitofu}}, {{Sm|Some}}, {{Sm|Venia}}, and most notably {{Sm|iStudying}}, who achieved 2nd place at [[B.E.A.S.T 6]]. These results allowed it to rise to 21st on the second tier list.
-Despite its slightly rare results, Greninja was ranked 22nd on the third tier list, and is seen to be a viable option in tournaments, while also being backed by excellent tournament representation. After Some placed 9th at [[Frostbite 2017]], however, Greninja's results dropped once again. Greninja was once again thought to not be as great as initially, esecially after [[2GGC: Greninja Saga]] saw it placing rather inconsistently (this is largely attributed to the Greninja players eliminating themselves during the top 48 part of the bracket). Despite an explosion of Greninja's results appearing recently in tournaments, voting for its tier placement was already done, resulting on Greninja being ranked at 26th on the fourth and current tier list, its lowest placement so far. Regardless, it is generally agreed that this burst of good tournament results could cause Greninja's placement on a future tier list to rise, although this remains to be seen.
 ==[[List of Super Smash Bros. 4 character trailers#Charizard and Greninja|Reveal trailer]]==