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 Why not reorganize the list, dividing it by language? Would look much better, instead of having all the names from all versions piled up. Or maybe, as it says in the section above, ordering by characters instead. [[User:WLord|WLord]] ([[User talk:WLord|talk]]) 01:52, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
+:I think this is an amazing idea. [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 11:00, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
+== Takashi Nagasako ==
+You know what's odd? Takashi Nagasako, the current voice of Donkey Kong since 2004 and the voice of Gannondorf in ''The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time'' reprised his role as the latter in ''Melee'' and ''Ultimate'', but couldn't as the former in ''Ultimate''. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 19:57, March 28, 2019 (EDT)
+:I don't think this is proper use of [[SW:TALK]], but I would like to point out that DK's always had gorilla grunts. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Irish Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:20, March 28, 2019 (EDT)
+== Steve Burton ==
+"This is also the reason why Cloud's voice is not dubbed from Japanese. Cloud's current English voice actor, [[wikipedia:Steve Burton (actor)|Steve Burton]], is union-represented; his contract with Square Enix gives him exclusive rights to performing the character, and requires him to be credited."
+is there an actual source for this? all of this information sounds highly fishy - how do we know the details of a contract between SE and Steve Burton, the "only he can voice Cloud" part is also highly suspect, and with Cloud apparently being recast for FFVII remake, it makes that part seem especially dubious. this smells like speculation to me --[[Special:Contributions/199.182.204.54|199.182.204.54]] 10:47, May 10, 2019 (EDT)
+:Well, characters ''can'' be recast - the company behind the character(s) makes that call. Reportedly, Steve [https://twitter.com/1SteveBurton/status/857582795748757504 could be doing Cloud again], but [https://twitter.com/Pa7rick_Ba7eman/status/1126737376737259520 that may or may not be the case]. Also, let the record show that [https://twitter.com/1SteveBurton/status/665628225687707648 Steve was never asked by Square to do Cloud in Smash 4] because of his union status (and Smash 4 being non-union). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:10, May 28, 2019 (EDT)
+==Characters that only appear in trailers==
+Recently, a registered user added voice actors for certain characters from the ''Fire Emblem'' series in this page. The characters in question are Xander, Ryoma, Sakura, Elise from ''Fates'', and Solon from ''Three Houses''; these characters do not appear with a voiced role in any ''Smash'' game, but they do appear in the trailers for {{SSB4|Corrin}} and {{SSBU|Byleth}}, respectively. Since this is a fairly unique situation, how should these characters be handled? They do not appear during gameplay, but they do in highly relevant secondary media (newcomer trailers). --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 13:44, March 9, 2020 (EDT)
+== Splitting ==
+I think this table needs to be split into smaller tables because it's just too large. I think this should be split by:
+#Each ''Smash'' game
+#Role in the series: Playable characters, Assist Trophies, Pokémon, Stage Hazards, Trailers only, etc.
+#Languages (characters voiced in multiple languages will be labelled depending on their voice actor (i.e. Lani Minella is only labelled in the English voice actor section)
+#Show the character in one column and all of their respective voice actors in the second column.
+If any of ideas seem reasonable let me know. [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 15:53, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
+:I think splitting by gameplay role would be helpful. A lot of the table is taken up by Poké Ball Pokémon voice actors, especially. Although, I don't think there'd be enough standalone cases to warrant splitting by game or language, or listing by character.
+:This would probably be a good sorting method: fighters, moveset characters (ex. Smash Taunts, Pikmin, Luma, the Phantom Thieves), Assist Trophies, Poké Ball Pokémon, stage characters and bosses (ex. Saffron City Pokémon, the Banjo-Kazooie cast, Metal Face, Master Hand), announcers, trailer-only characters.
+:The main problems to sort out here would be: what would we do for actors who voice characters in more than one role (ex. Charles Martinet as Mario, Luigi, and Wario as fighters, and Waluigi as an assist)? If nothing else, we could list him twice, but it'd still be odd. And, what would we do for characters in more than one role (such as Chrom upgrading from a moveset character to a fighter)? In that case, I think we could use the highest applicable role in the sorting method (so put Chrom under fighter), but it'd be worth discussing. I do agree the list needs some kind of organization. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 16:08, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
+::While not related to splitting, if we're working on reorganizing this list, then I'd like to propose going from this way of sorting:
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
+!Voice actor !! Role
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Charles Martinet}}||[[Mario]]<br>[[Luigi]]<br>[[Wario]]<br>[[Waluigi]]
+|}
+::to this:
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
+!Voice actor !! Role
+|-
+|rowspan=4|{{s|wikipedia|Charles Marinet}}||[[Mario]]
+|-
+|[[Luigi]]
+|-
+|[[Wario]]
+|-
+|[[Waluigi]]
+|}
+::I just think it'd be better for organizing. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 16:24, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
+:::Agree on this, as well. That'd actually be better for splitting. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 16:34, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
+The problem, in my mind, is that any split will make certain information harder to find/compare, since some VAs do multiple roles of varying degrees of importance. I think this is one of those long list pages that isn't necessarily better for being subdivided. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:02, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
+:Yeah, like what I brought up earlier. I don't think listing them multiple times would be a good idea. At the same time, the list is absolutely massive—maybe it could benefit from being split into half, two columns? ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 18:48, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
+::How about doing something like this:
+===English voice actors===
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
+!Voice actor !! Role
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Charles Martinet}}||[[Mario]] (all regions)<br>[[Luigi]] (all regions)<br>[[Wario]] (all regions)<br>[[Waluigi]] (all regions)
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Yuri Lowenthal}}||[[Marth]]{{gameIcon|SSBU}}
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Jason Griffith}}||[[Sonic]]{{gameIcon|SSBB}}
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Roger Craig Smith}}||[[Sonic]]{{gameIcon|SSB4}}{{gameIcon|SSBU}}
+|}
+===Japanese voice actors===
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
+!Voice actor !! Role
+|-
+|Ikue Otani||[[Pikachu]] (all regions)<br>Morgana
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Hikaru Midorikawa}}||Marth
+|-
+|{{s|wikipedia|Jun'ichi Kanemaru}}||Sonic
+|}
+Even though Charles Martinet and Ikue Otani voice Mario and Pikachu in all regions, Martinet is an English-speaking VA while Otani is a Japanese-speaking VA, so if we want to not repeat, this situation could work (and if they voice a character in more than one region we can just mention it next to the character's name. [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 10:55, July 4, 2020 (EDT)
+:Terribly late response, but I don't think this is necessary, because the list is already compiled into one big list to begin with. Additionally, a lot of the European languages are left untouched amongst the cast (with them frequently being voiced in just English and Japanese), resulting in much smaller lists (even disregarding the fact that we don't have all the info in the list to begin with). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 19:01, July 20, 2020 (EDT)
+:It would be much better that way, looks pretty messy the way it is now, and I don't think it's a problem that some languages may end with much shorter lists. --[[User:WLord|WLord]] ([[User talk:WLord|talk]]) 21:59, October 24, 2020 (EDT)
+== About the voices of the characters in ARMS Rush ==
+As for the voices of the characters in [[ARMS Rush]], I can only hear 3 of the 6. I also checked [https://www.sounds-resource.com/ The Sounds Resource] for voice clips for SSBU and ARMS, but I can't tell myself whose voices are being used. So the voice for [[Mechanica]] and [[Master Mummy]], who are not voiced in the trailer, may not be in SSBU (although Mechanica's voice actor also voices [[Zelda]]).
+I would like you to discuss the pros and cons of posting this information, as it is difficult to identify multiple voices on a single track, and even if all the voices could be identified, I am not sure if it should be posted on this page.
+I am a Japanese who uses DeepL translation, so sorry if the text is difficult to understand. Thank you in advance.--[[User:Suna|Suna]] ([[User talk:Suna|talk]]) 19:04, July 2, 2022 (EDT)
+:It has been my understanding that people have looked into this already (Min Min's been out for a whole two years now) and confirmed that the voice samples have been lifted straight from ARMS. I agree that it is very hard to determine, but when it's extremely obvious who is voicing a character (regardless of credit in-game), they should still be credited on the wiki. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 09:05, July 8, 2022 (EDT)
+::Thanks for commenting. First of all, I apologize for putting the explanation that directs you to the talk page in [[Special:diff/1706601]] as it was before translation. Here is the translated explanation. Remove Mechanica and Master Mummy; we cannot be sure if they have a voice in SSBU. I think this is something that should be discussed and then decided.
+::I am aware that the ARMS characters are using voice samples from the original work. I don't think it would be a big issue to describe them if the voices and their voice actors could be objectively confirmed without in-game credits.<br>'''The key question is whether they have a voice in SSBU.'''<br>As I mentioned at the beginning, I think this is a maniacal issue because of the circumstances that cannot be confirmed. For that reason.I believe that a consensus is needed to publish their Voice Actor.--[[User:Suna|Suna]] ([[User talk:Suna|talk]]) 09:29, July 9, 2022 (EDT)
+:::I apologize if what I said wasn't clear enough, but when I said that "it has been looked into", I was referring to the part about them having voices at all. [[Talk:Super Sonic|There have been times where people have pushed for having something on the wiki based on what they hear]], [[Super Sonic#Trivia|only for them to ultimately be wrong in the end]], so while it may be speculative of me to assume that the devs would not have intentionally left out two randomly selected characters' voices, it also seems silly to suggest otherwise, don't you think? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:58, July 9, 2022 (EDT)
+== Porygon and Gulpin Voice ==
+According to Wikipedia, the voice actors of Porygon and Gulpin are Katsuyuki Konishi and Chie Sato, but on the smashwiki it is unknown and Rikako Aikawa.  After all, which are the two voice actors exactly?  If confirmed, please reflect this error in Wikipedia's "Characters in the Super Smash Brothers Series". <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Yousei0718|Yousei0718]] ([[User talk:Yousei0718|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yousei0718|contribs]]) 05:37, July 7, 2022 (EDT)</small>
+== Kat and Ana's voice actresses ==
+I don't know where did the user [[Special:Contributions/Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] got this information from, since he was the one who wrote that information on their page in this wiki to begin with, but as far as i can see, there's no official source detailing which voice actress voiced which of the two characters in question. We know who were responsable for their voices, it was Leslie Swan and Sara Rades, but there's no reliable source saying if "Leslie Swan did the voice of Ana specifically", stuff like that.
+Does anyone knows in what official Nintendo source details who voices who? If not, could someone just merge the part where it states Kat and Ana's voice actresses as one section? As in, for it to just states "Leslie Swan and Sara Rades were both responsible for the voices of both Kat and Ana". For the sake of, you know, try to stop spreading potential misinformation.  <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:177.35.64.10|177.35.64.10]] ([[User talk:177.35.64.10|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/177.35.64.10|contribs]]) 13:02, July 10, 2022  (GMT-3)</small>
+:I honestly don't remember where I got this info from, I think somewhere on MarioWiki but it may not have been a reliably sourced information. [[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 12:26, July 10, 2022 (EDT)
+::I checked MarioWiki and the credits were [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_WarioWare%2C_Inc.%3A_Mega_Microgame%24%21_staff&type=revision&diff=3624986 removed in April] since there was no source given. I'm trying to search for where this information came from, but most sites tend to list both/either as "Kat & Ana" with no source. Other sites seem to be copying us, other wikis, or the previously mentioned sites, again with no sources. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:34, July 10, 2022 (EDT)
+:::The source of if either of them voiced Kat and Ana or not, seems to be from the sound test of the japanese version of Smash for Wii U, if we where to believe [[Special:Contributions/NinjaCoachZ|NinjaCoachZ]] for putting that information in their page in this wiki, which is not much since the source he provided is from a now blocked Youtube video. Put even then, he only put both Leslie Swan and Sara Rades as voicing both Kat and Ana, with no specification on who voiced who, which lets me to believe that even on the official source we have, it still doesn't specify anything and it only puts both actresses as voicing both characters. [[User:177.35.64.10|177.35.64.10]] ([[User talk:177.35.64.10|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/177.35.64.10|contribs]]) 14:46, July 10, 2022  (GMT-3)
+:: I know this is a late response, but shouldn't the section that mention their voice actresses be removed then? In both this page, and the page of these characters on the wiki. If there's no way to find a source that says who voiced these characters in the first place, i think it's better to just remove the section about their voice actresses altogether to stop spreading potential misinformation. [[User:181.220.102.161|181.220.102.161]] ([[User talk:181.220.102.161|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/181.220.102.161|contribs]]) 15:23, July 26, 2022  (GMT-3)
+Dead-posting but I'd like to wrap things up regarding the sound test source. I have... "found a way" to view the Japanese sound test, and for Kat & Ana (カット&アナ) it shows "カット&アナ : ボイス#", "声 : Sara Rades / Leslie Swan" ([https://i.imgur.com/W8Tvuzs.png screenshot]). As with other sources, we can conclude that Rades, Swan, and/or both voiced Kat, Ana, and/or both, but the specific role(s) or clip(s) is not known. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:24, October 30, 2022 (EDT)
+== Porygon Voice ==
+Porygon's voice is Katsuyuki Konishi, so please reflect it. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:126.243.191.149|126.243.191.149]] ([[User talk:126.243.191.149|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/126.243.191.149|contribs]]) 13:07, July 27, 2022 (EDT)</small>
+== Other or Unknown Role ==
+Angie Bender、John Friedmann、François Goeske and Julie Parker who was in charge of <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:126.141.164.103|126.141.164.103]] ([[User talk:126.141.164.103|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/126.141.164.103|contribs]]) 00:31, August 19, 2022 (EDT)</small>
+:This is not what discussion pages are for. If you need to remember these people, get a piece of paper and write it down. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 05:39, August 19, 2022 (EDT)
+What I want to ask is what role did they play in Smash Bros. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:126.141.164.103|126.141.164.103]] ([[User talk:126.141.164.103|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/126.141.164.103|contribs]]) 11:45, August 19, 2022 (EDT)</small>
+I ask again Angie Bender, Jhon Friedmann, François Goeske and Julie Parker What role did you play in smash bros? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:126.141.138.117|126.141.138.117]] ([[User talk:126.141.138.117|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/126.141.138.117|contribs]]) 19:22, August 22, 2022 (EDT)</small>
+:If we knew they wouldn't be "Other" or "Unknown". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:39, August 22, 2022 (EDT)