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== Victory Poses == | == Victory Poses == | ||
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Hello! | Hello! | ||
Quick question, can you create a new page called List of spirits (complete list) akin to List of stickers (complete list)? I have all the information ready but nowhere to add it. Thanks! [[User:GamblerMario|GamblerMario]] ([[User talk:GamblerMario|talk]]) 14:59, 2 January 2019 (EST) | Quick question, can you create a new page called List of spirits (complete list) akin to List of stickers (complete list)? I have all the information ready but nowhere to add it. Thanks! [[User:GamblerMario|GamblerMario]] ([[User talk:GamblerMario|talk]]) 14:59, 2 January 2019 (EST) | ||
:[[List of spirits (complete list) | :[[List of spirits (complete list)]] <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:08, 2 January 2019 (EST) | ||
== Rename request == | == Rename request == | ||
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#Read closer. I don't want any more "I think Ganondorf is a semiclone" discussions, but I am fine with "You say that this attribute for X character is cloned to Y character, and I disagree with that." All I want is more concise arguments. The threshold for full, semi, and pseudo clones is not to be disputed, but where each character falls on that spectrum can be. | #Read closer. I don't want any more "I think Ganondorf is a semiclone" discussions, but I am fine with "You say that this attribute for X character is cloned to Y character, and I disagree with that." All I want is more concise arguments. The threshold for full, semi, and pseudo clones is not to be disputed, but where each character falls on that spectrum can be. | ||
#I am not discussing this one. KKK jokes are insensitive (or at least should be) world wide. I am not willing to be receptive of this. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:32, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | #I am not discussing this one. KKK jokes are insensitive (or at least should be) world wide. I am not willing to be receptive of this. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:32, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:Coming back after my block ended, I want to apologize first and foremost about everything I’ve done wrong in the past. However, I do that Ganondorf is still debatable as a semi-clone, so I adjusted my arguement for it, but before I continue further with the Ganondorf up tilt/psudeo-clone debate, I want to double check if I can debate what the cutoff for psudeo-clones and semi-clones is, just as long as I do not debate the actual definition of what any of the subcategories are. For example, currently on [[Talk:Clone]], I have a proposal to change the cutoff percent for sharing a moveset to be 30-45% to 30-50% for psudeo-clones, but mentioned that I think that the groupings and names of the subcategories are perfectly fine sans the slight percentage error. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 19:00, May 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:#Nothing to say to that (but I had to put a # for the next numbers to be right). | :#Nothing to say to that (but I had to put a # for the next numbers to be right). | ||
:#I was more about rethinking the whole way Toomai made his comparison chart, but I guess I'm gonna do this on my own user page instead. | :#I was more about rethinking the whole way Toomai made his comparison chart, but I guess I'm gonna do this on my own user page instead. | ||
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I don't even know why Lou's ban is up for discussion. Jokes like this are offensive to many people. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 21:15, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | I don't even know why Lou's ban is up for discussion. Jokes like this are offensive to many people. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 21:15, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:OK, let's stop the Lou Cena ban talk. It's not gonna go anywhere. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 21:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | :OK, let's stop the Lou Cena ban talk. It's not gonna go anywhere. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 21:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | ||
==Olimar's notes== | |||
You wanted proof that my article is real, so [https://www.pikminwiki.com/Olimar%27s_notes_in_Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate here]! The article is featured on Pikipedia and is NOT a joke! --[[User:Smashtana|Smashtana]] ([[User talk:Smashtana|talk]]) 10:42, April 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:the article is a very well made april fools joke. go ahead try in game if you need to but there is no smash taunt for olimar. [[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 10:47, April 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
OK! Thanks for telling me. [[User:Smashtana|Smashtana]] ([[User talk:Smashtana|talk]]) 11:20, April 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Spirits on SSBU Fighter Pages == | |||
I'm asking here as I am not sure which "talk page" would be the most appropriate for this topic. | |||
I don't think Spirits and their Spirit Battles should be listed on SSBU Fighter pages. For Spirits, we do not list the fighter's stickers on their [[Peach_(SSBB)#Trophies|SSBB Fighter pages]] (most likely because they do not have description like trophies do), so it confuses me why we list their Spirits and their related Spirit Battles on their [[Peach_(SSBU)#Spirits|SSBU Fighter pages]] as they are quite similar (if not the same, in this situation). I feel [[Princess_Peach#Spirits|Spirits]] should only be on their general pages like [[Princess_Peach#Stickers|stickers]] are. For the Spirit Battles, having the list of all the [[Peach_(SSBU)#In_Spirit_battles|Spirit Battles for said fighter]] is in is does not seem necessary for their fighter pages, and kind of bloats the page a little. Especially considering we have all of the said Spirit Battles on the [[List_of_spirits_(Super_Mario_series)#Spirits_Battles|respective lists of Spirits]]. | |||
I would appreciate it if you could direct me where the most appropriate "talk page" would be to discuss this topic. [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 21:59, April 6, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:I'd argue it's useful to know which Spirit Battles involve certain fighters, which is actually something I tried to do myself a while back, but didn't finish, because of just how many there are. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 22:30, April 6, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:There are a few points that make me think it is not really necessary in their '''''Ultimate'' (SSBU) Fighter''' pages: | |||
:#Spirits by themselves are almost the same as stickers in ''Brawl'', which are not included on their ''Brawl'' Fighter pages. | |||
:#We already have all the Spirit Battles listed for each Spirit in the Spirit pages. | |||
:#Since Spirits can be added as free DLC, we'd have to keep adding to all of their fighter pages as well every time more are added, instead of just adding to the Spirit lists. | |||
:It really does not seem necessary as the info can be easily found elsewhere. I can find out that Peach will be an ally for "Bowser (Wedding)" and "Donkey Kong & Lady" just by looking for/at the Spirit itself. By finding the Spirit, I find the fighter(s) in the battle. When getting rid of the Spirit Battles by use of the preview, it looks a lot cleaner to me, as well as being more aligned with the other Fighter pages (SSB, SSM, SSBB, SSB4). [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 01:06, April 10, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Discussion Time? == | |||
I am curious if there is a is there a time limit to rename, merge, or split a page. | |||
If there were a ''few'' to agree with the change but with no opposition, how long until the decision could be carried out? | |||
If ''no one else'' commented, would one still have to wait for a few others to agree before being able to proceed with said action, even if around a week/month or so had passed? (I wonder because if someone wanted to discuss, wouldn't they have done so before a week or month were to pass?) | |||
I was just wondering if there was an answer for those types of situations as I've seen suggestions for renaming, merging, or splitting going completely unanswered, or not carried out when it was in agreement, after weeks/months/years (At least according to the discussion page its not). [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 01:26, April 30, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:If there are few or no responses after a significant amount of time, the topic should be dropped as no quorum. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 09:30, April 30, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::I guess that makes sense. Thank you. [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 23:09, April 30, 2019 (EDT) | |||
==Rename request== | |||
Time to abandon SugarCookie420. I would like to change my username to Cookies and Creme, if that works. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 17:02, May 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:As per [[SW:NAMECHANGE]], please write back here in a few days. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:03, May 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Confirming that I want to change my username. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 12:49, May 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Fire Bow temporary fix == | |||
As I mentioned on [[Talk:Fire Bow|the article's own talk page]], I am of the belief that the page should be reverted to the edit before Lou Cena's series of changes. The previous edit, by SnorlaxMonster, has the article begin with: | |||
:'''Fire Bow''' (renamed '''Fire Arrow''' in Ultimate) | |||
I feel like doing so would be a good fix for the time being. However, as I am not an administrator, I cannot make that edit myself. <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|#041e42|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|#ffc72c|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|#c0c0c0|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]I see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 00:55, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
: I actually agree with this notion. I mistakenly thought that we had a solid foundation for a consensus, but until the page actually does get moved, we should keep the beginning as SnorlaxMonster had it. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 01:46, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Two Symbols == | |||
I was wondering about a page using two series Symbols on its page. You've said that it apparently had been discussed before and that it should only have one. Aside from potential clutter, what is the reasoning behind that? Aside from the Ellipses, what happens if two Symbols apply to the page? I ask as both [[Kamek]] (''Mario''/''Yoshi'') and [[Pauline]] (''Donkey Kong''/''Mario'') use two symbols. Do only characters with fighters get to have two? [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 03:19, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:No. There should be only 1, ever. As you said, it's clutter. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 03:39, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Are you sure? I know Pauline is still a recent page, but both Kamek and Shy Guy have used two since 2014/2015. Regardless, despite being listed from two universes within ''Smash'', which would they use if they can only use one? ''Mario''? However, in ''Smash'', Kamek and Shy Guy's trophies are listed as ''Yoshi'', while Pauline's is listed as ''Donkey Kong''. Their Spirits however are listed under ''Mario''. Should they only use ''Yoshi'' and ''Donkey Kong'' because of their trophies, or ''Mario'' because of their Spirits? [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 11:50, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::I'm sure. It just comes off looking messy, and especially putting in minor universes like the mii one and Mario (for things like Yoshi), it gives the sense that we aren't sure which universe the subject belongs to, even though we are. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:19, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::Then we should remove the ''Mario'' symbol from Kamek and Shy Guy as, apart from ''Ultimate'', they've always been listed as part of the ''Yoshi'' series? If so, what about Pauline? She's been listed as part of ''Donkey Kong'' before ''Ultimate''. [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 13:37, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::::Yes and yes to Kamek and Shy. Pauline is DK. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:39, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::::Okay. I updated them so only one symbol is in use now. [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 13:53, May 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== The KK Slider bad april joke == | |||
did someone vandalism and support terrorists on kksliders page? I remember seeing that when I last visited and that make me uncomfortable. Is this wiki safe to view? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:172.58.169.218|172.58.169.218]] ([[User talk:172.58.169.218|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/172.58.169.218|contribs]]) </small> | |||
:For information on this incident, read [[User talk:Lou Cena]]. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 16:40, May 15, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::An anonymous IP, with no history on the wiki, that went straight to a moderator page, the one of the very moderator that handled the situation, and uses big words like "terrorists"... Sure looks a lot like someone is trying to gaslight against another user... I don't like it.<br>Yes, IP 172.58.169.218, this wiki is safe to view, as is the actual KKK page on wikipedia.org, because knowledge won't actually hurt you. ''Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.'' [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 07:52, May 16, 2019 (EDT) | |||
That was me. No, I do not support terrorists. It was an ironic joke that I didn’t think through. We’re done with that now. I got blocked for a month and learned my lesson. So yes, IP, the wiki is safe to view. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 10:41, May 16, 2019 (EDT) | |||
==[[Talk:Fire Bow|Questions on consensus and how to move a page with a redirect]]== | |||
It seems fairly unanimous to me that Fire Bow should be moved, with 7 users voicing support and the only opposition being that Wolff and I edit warred to make it an early decision (that was my fault) and that we should rename other pages (which I have already placed tags on some). However, I just want to double check if I can move it. | |||
Also, when I did “move” it that one time by switching the contents of each page, I actually tried to move Fore Bow normally, but it said that I couldn’t. Is there a way to bypass that issue without having to copy-paste the contents to each page? [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 01:05, June 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:You can't move over a redirect with more than 1 edit to it, that's the technicality. You need an admin to do it (as I have) in that case. Moving by replacing text is never acceptable because you lose edit history that way. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 01:30, June 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||