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:Well, for one, we have [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Official Site/Music|this]] to cover the music that we (officially) know, and we have the other universe pages to cover any new tracks we find. This page will serve no purpose once the full game releases, since, like we did for [[Template:Music|''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'']], we'd have individual pages for the music tracks in the game. This page is redundant, in my honest opinion. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:27, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | :Well, for one, we have [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Official Site/Music|this]] to cover the music that we (officially) know, and we have the other universe pages to cover any new tracks we find. This page will serve no purpose once the full game releases, since, like we did for [[Template:Music|''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'']], we'd have individual pages for the music tracks in the game. This page is redundant, in my honest opinion. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:27, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
::I never actually saw this page, indeed [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate_Official_Site/Music|it's only linked to a single article]]. I also think this page should be kept for consistency with other games. [[User:Hugman|Hugman]] ([[User talk:Hugman|talk]]) 12:33, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | ::I never actually saw this page, indeed [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate_Official_Site/Music|it's only linked to a single article]]. I also think this page should be kept for consistency with other games. [[User:Hugman|Hugman]] ([[User talk:Hugman|talk]]) 12:33, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::''64'' and ''Melee'' only have the music on one page because of how little music there actually is. You saw the ''Ultimate'' Direct - there's over 800 songs in this game. There's no "consistency" to be kept with a page like this. | :::''64'' and ''Melee'' only have the music on one page because of how little music there actually is. You saw the ''Ultimate'' Direct - there's over 800 songs in this game. There's no "consistency" to be kept with a page like this. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidanzapunk]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aidanzapunk|contribs]]) 11:36, October 10th, 2018</small> | ||
::::I guess you are right, but I would like to see that music page being linked a bit much, like [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|here]]. [[User:Hugman|Hugman]] ([[User talk:Hugman|talk]]) 12:46, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | ::::I guess you are right, but I would like to see that music page being linked a bit much, like [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|here]]. [[User:Hugman|Hugman]] ([[User talk:Hugman|talk]]) 12:46, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::::There's no real point in doing that, especially on the main page. We didn't do that for ''Smash 4'' (let alone cover the different tracks available on that site), and the page itself doesn't even cover all the new tracks; not to mention we don't bring up the new music on any other game's page. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 14:56, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | :::::There's no real point in doing that, especially on the main page. We didn't do that for ''Smash 4'' (let alone cover the different tracks available on that site), and the page itself doesn't even cover all the new tracks; not to mention we don't bring up the new music on any other game's page. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 14:56, 10 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
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::Should we remove it from this list as it isn't present in the sound test? Sound test presence feels like it should be the criteria for listing on the music pages, lest we include all the Kirby retro medley tracks and Street Fighter crisis versions. I say we stick with the acknowledgement of such tracks in the opening paragraphs and remove it from the listing since the precedent is sound test tracks. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 05:49, 29 December 2018 (EST) | ::Should we remove it from this list as it isn't present in the sound test? Sound test presence feels like it should be the criteria for listing on the music pages, lest we include all the Kirby retro medley tracks and Street Fighter crisis versions. I say we stick with the acknowledgement of such tracks in the opening paragraphs and remove it from the listing since the precedent is sound test tracks. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 05:49, 29 December 2018 (EST) | ||
:::Couldn't someone just list all the tracks that are NOT in the sound test for completion's sake, perhaps under their own section? | :::Couldn't someone just list all the tracks that are NOT in the sound test for completion's sake, perhaps under their own section? | ||
::::Hurray! Someone did! | |||
== Final Fantasy Series name == | == Final Fantasy Series name == | ||
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:I already have the entire soundtrack, with tags, uploaded to a Google Drive. I could add the links to the files if that is a thing we would like to do. | :I already have the entire soundtrack, with tags, uploaded to a Google Drive. I could add the links to the files if that is a thing we would like to do. | ||
:JosukeJoestar9 11:08pm (EST) | :JosukeJoestar9 11:08pm (EST) | ||
::To prevent legal action from Nintendo and generally make sure we're not straining the server, we don't host audio files longer than 30 seconds, like the victory themes. Also, be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 23:18, November 21, 2019 (EST) | |||
== Is the notes section supposed to be game accurate? == | |||
Notes often list something like Arrangement Supervisor, which is listed in-game, but sometimes also list things not present in-game, and miss info in-game! Should we attempt to fix this? | |||
:I noticed this too, and generally we limit it to just the Arrangement or Arrangement Supervisor. The "From (such and such game)" notes are there in-game, but a while back someone added "''Remixed'' from (such and such game)" for a few songs, which I'm not sure I can verify. I'm not sure if we should leave that or not. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 23:21, November 21, 2019 (EST) | |||
== The Origin sections == | |||
I have seen that many of the pages where the origin description of songs are, have no consistency. Many have titles with no capital letters(ex. overworld theme), and the different between title and game of source is not consisten between plain text, between quotations marks or cursive. Could it be OK to suggest keeping a consistency like quotation marks for "Song's Name", cursive for ''Game Title & Soundtrack Source'' or something like that. I can do it myself in my free time but I want to know if it would be OK to do so. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 20:32, October 6, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Real quick, ''this is italics'' not cursive (cursive is connected letters and more loops). Can you give a page as an example of what you mean? Using overworld theme as an example doesn't help much since it can be a general term and thus not need capitalization (a quick search showed all uses as a title with capitals). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:04, October 6, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Sorry, english in my second lenguage and MS Word usually names it "Cursiva" so my bad for not researching that. Well lets see for example Super Mario World Medley it exactly says: | |||
::This theme is a medley of various themes from ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario World}}'', starting off with the overworld theme. It leads into an interlude with percussion used whenever playing a level while riding [[Yoshi]], before transitioning into the [[supermariowiki:Bonus Game (Super Mario World)|bonus game]] theme. Following this is the "Level Clear" theme, the {{s|mariowiki|Star World}} and finally the [[Super Star]] theme before looping. The overall style is very similar to the original 16-bit soundfont, with a prominent electronic beat. | |||
::This songs have official titles even though they are close to the ones here but with no capital letters like "Overworld BGM", "Bonus Screen BGM", with the "Level Clear" being the only in this format. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 22:21, October 6, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::It seems English is unique in calling it "italic" instead of "cursive", or at least distinguishing between them. | |||
:::Personally I see the usage of "overworld theme" normal considering it is a very generic term and, in the case of ''Super Mario'', is formally called "Ground Theme". However, I did notice "Athletic Theme" not being capitalized correctly despite that being its actual name, same for "Level Clear". Those should be corrected to be consistent, but I think overworld theme can stay unless that series has a song with the title "Overworld Theme" like ''Zelda''. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:50, October 6, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::::Oh interesting, you have a point, as far as it is written as the description of where does it play, it can be kept unless it really is the official title of the song. Talking about titles, I guess it goes the same way with title themes, no need for capital letters? [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 00:00, October 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Unlock criteria on each series' pages == | |||
I know that there's a page detailing the unlock criteria for all the unlockable songs, but I was thinking maybe we could also have them listed on the pages for specific series too. This was done with articles for prior ''Smash'' games, so I don't see why we shouldn't also do so for ''Ultimate''. As an example for the article detailing the ''Mario'' music: | |||
'''Melty Monster''' | |||
'''Origin''' | |||
This is the theme of Melty Monster Galaxy, ported directly from ''Super Mario Galaxy 2''. | |||
'''Composition & Arrangements''' | |||
Source: Super Mario Galaxy 2 | |||
Composition and arrangement Copyright Nintendo | |||
Japanese title: マグマモンスター, Magma Monster | |||
'''Unlock Method''' | |||
Find a [[chest]] hidden in the [[Molten Fortress]] sub-area of [[World of Light]]. | |||
[[User:TomLegend101|TomLegend101]] ([[User talk:TomLegend101|talk]]) 06:58, December 30, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== "Other Uses" Yay or nay? == | |||
On this wiki, are we listing places where these songs play outside of their designated stages or not? There's plenty of examples in [[Music (SSBM)]] that indicate when a song plays during a character's credits, on a non-fitting stage in All-Stars, or during a particular event. Same for uses of songs in stages of the [[Subspace Emissary]] on the Brawl pages. But I tried to do the same for Spirit Battles and it was all unceremoniously removed. Consistency is key. Do we include "other uses" or not? [[User:Shadow2|Shadow2]] ([[User talk:Shadow2|talk]]) 06:55, June 2, 2022 (EDT) | |||